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a little gift for gilmer (PirateJohn ftse)
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Karen
2008-12-25 20:15:52 UTC
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Subject: January 16, 2003 <remember this exchange?>



Karen: And thank you for so many things...genuinely, sincerely,
heartfelt....thank you. You have been very special ...

John: And you are very special to me, whether you see that or
not these days. I think that you are a charming woman, with all
sorts of good qualities.

... January 16, 2003



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In a message dated 1/16/03 1:04:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
And thank you for so many things...genuinely, sincerely,
heartfelt....thank you. You have been very special ...
And you are very special to me, whether you see that or not these days.
I
think that you are a charming woman, with all sorts of good qualities.
Matthew Kruk
2008-12-25 20:48:03 UTC
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Ah, how sweet. Brings a, choke, tear to my eye.
PyrateJohn
2008-12-25 21:45:16 UTC
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Ah, how sweet.  Brings a, choke, tear to my eye.
Kinda gives me the creeps, considering that the crazy old broad has
been stalking me for something like 5 years, and a couple of other
guys for longer. Now it's Christmas, she's at home and alone, and
reading through old emails from years ago.

I don't know if she edited my comment or not, but at the time she was
writing to me she was telling me that she was depressed, and that she
wanted to commit suicide. So in that context, my telling her " And
you are very special to me, whether you see that or not these days. I
think that you are a charming woman, with all sorts of good qualities.
" was a kindness, but it sure as hell wasn't a romantic interest or
anything.

Kooky, kooky, kooky.

--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Gregory Hall
2008-12-25 21:56:29 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
Ah, how sweet. Brings a, choke, tear to my eye.
Kinda gives me the creeps, considering that the crazy old broad has
been stalking me for something like 5 years, and a couple of other
guys for longer. Now it's Christmas, she's at home and alone, and
reading through old emails from years ago.
I don't know if she edited my comment or not, but at the time she was
writing to me she was telling me that she was depressed, and that she
wanted to commit suicide. So in that context, my telling her " And
you are very special to me, whether you see that or not these days. I
think that you are a charming woman, with all sorts of good qualities.
" was a kindness, but it sure as hell wasn't a romantic interest or
anything.
Kooky, kooky, kooky.
Sounds to me like you maybe you never really got over her. Perhaps it's time
for you two to kiss and make up?? If she was THAT undesirable as you
attempt to portray her, wouldn't it make more sense to just ignore her?
Remember when you were just a little tyke in school and there was this
little girl you liked but the only way you could show it was to tease her
unrelentlessly? Hmmmmmm!
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2008-12-25 22:08:37 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Remember when you were just a little tyke in school and there was this
little girl you liked but the only way you could show it was to tease her
unrelentlessly? Hmmmmmm!
--
Gregory Hall
Well Greg ... I can honestly say that I have no interest in her. I
prefer to date within the human species.

As far as me "teasing" her you may recall that you said that she was
legitimately insane a few days ago. You wrote a long piece about her
being an attention seeker and why she won two Usenet Kook Awards a few
months ago.

You also might check the history of the posts at alt.nuke.the.usa,
going back about 3-4 weeks. Anderson typically gets depressed during
the holidays, and she did the same thing this holiday. So she was
writing crap back and forth between her sock puppets (her imaginary
friends) about myself, a couple up in the Northwest, and several other
guys that she stalked. She only got "teased" because after about 2
weeks of that nonsense we got tired of it. Now this crap has spilled
over to other newsgroups that don't want to hear it (they have heard
plenty from Anderson over the years) and I don't blame them.

After this post I am trimming the groups to eliminate a few groups
that don't deserve to be disturbed.

Merry Christmas.

--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Gregory Hall
2008-12-25 22:30:38 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
Well Greg ... I can honestly say that I have no interest in her. I
prefer to date within the human species.
:-) Now, be nice . . .
Post by PyrateJohn
As far as me "teasing" her you may recall that you said that she was
legitimately insane a few days ago. You wrote a long piece about her
being an attention seeker and why she won two Usenet Kook Awards a few
months ago.
But she ignored that one so I had to write another one that she couldn't
resist answering. And when she answered it I was impressed with her
normalcy. It now appears that there a couple of people posting and
attempting to make her appear to be some sort of kooky woman with mental
issues and they do a good job of it on the surface and had me almost sucked
in but I sure didn't see any indication of real kookery in her reply. I
don't know her at all but from her answers it would appear to me that she is
perhaps a little old-fashioned and probably raised Catholic but that sure
doesn't make her a kook or a mental case.

The reason I thought she was a kook at first is the way she spent so much
time rebutting posts only written to taunt her but she gave a very rational
explanation why she does that. And more power to her. She seems to be
holding her own pretty darned well.
Post by PyrateJohn
You also might check the history of the posts at alt.nuke.the.usa,
going back about 3-4 weeks. Anderson typically gets depressed during
the holidays, and she did the same thing this holiday. So she was
writing crap back and forth between her sock puppets (her imaginary
friends) about myself, a couple up in the Northwest, and several other
guys that she stalked. She only got "teased" because after about 2
weeks of that nonsense we got tired of it. Now this crap has spilled
over to other newsgroups that don't want to hear it (they have heard
plenty from Anderson over the years) and I don't blame them.
The creative use of sockpuppets indicates an advanced intellect. I, myself,
have been known to employ a sock or two from time to time. When one becomes
bored with lesser intellects it's nice, on occassion, to create and speak to
an equal. And lots of folks get depressed during the holidays. To do so is
considered normal. As for not wanting to read her posts that's plenty easy
to do. Just don't open them. But, admit it, you are curious about what she's
writing because she writes a lot about you and your friends so you open them
anyway. In a way it's flattering that a woman would spend so much time
communicating with you, don't you think?
Post by PyrateJohn
After this post I am trimming the groups to eliminate a few groups
that don't deserve to be disturbed.
Merry Christmas.
And a Merry Christmas to you, too.
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2008-12-25 23:06:43 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Post by PyrateJohn
As far as me "teasing" her you may recall that you said that she was
legitimately insane a few days ago.  You wrote a long piece about her
being an attention seeker and why she won two Usenet Kook Awards a few
months ago.
But she ignored that one so I had to write another one that she couldn't
resist answering. And when she answered it I was impressed with her
normalcy. It now appears that there a couple of people posting and
attempting to make her appear to be some sort of kooky woman with mental
issues and they do a good job of it on the surface and had me almost sucked
in but I sure didn't see any indication of real kookery in her reply. I
don't know her at all but from her answers it would appear to me that she is
perhaps a little old-fashioned and probably raised Catholic but that sure
doesn't make her a kook or a mental case.
Well ... y'know ... I see your points. Because I think that everyone
in this conversation (and there are actually about 4 people here that
are arguing with her) have befriended her at one time or another. She
is very good about sucking people in. Statistically, according to a
text on stalkers that I read, almost 50% of female stalkers will con a
male friend or a male relative into helping them.

In my case I was very protective of her. I was in precisely the same
position that you are in now - defending her online.

Then we got into a correspondence of perhaps 2 years. She would tell
me that she was depressed and suicidal. I would try to reassure her
(witness the comments at the very top of this thread).

Then she got a crush on me. I would tell her firmly that I was not
interested in her in that way and would stop writing to her. She
would usually go away for a week or so, then reappear, all would be
forgotten, and we'd go on from there.

Then she wanted to meet me because she claimed that she just happened
to be in Florida during Bike Week. I agreed, thinking that she was a
bit daffy (I did tell a couple of friends about her, just in case) and
that she was forcing herself on me but figuring that a lunch in a
public place wasn't a bad thing.

Fair enough.

Well, somehow or another there was a misunderstanding about dates and
times and, for lack of a better way of phrasing it, Anderson got
accidentally stood up. She was understandably furious and hurt, but I
was not in a position to reschedule my events during Bike Week.

Several weeks go by and I receive a package in the mail. It includes
about 40 photos of Anderson masturbating with a vibrator, photos that
she has taken from following me around for several days, me, my new
(at the time) girlfriend, my office, my house, etc.

You can see samples of those photos at http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Anderson1.htm

Since then, it's been pretty much what you see here. She's an old
homebody and has no friends, so she has tons of time on her hands.
She enlisted another poor schmuck to harass me, and he has now fallen
by the wayside. She knows that we all have figured out that her
Gaspar and Dumpy nyms are imaginary, so she has had to come from
hiding behind socks in order to get a rise out of anyone.

I guess that if I were reading this I'd be inclined to think that it
was an isolated incident, but ...

She did a similar thing to a gentleman in New Orleans, who may or may
not be one of the other people posting here. The story goes that
Anderson drove, uninvited and without warning, from Bremerton, WA to
New Orleans, just to see this guy. He says that she was speaking in
tongues like she had multiple personalities (witness the various
personalities of her socks) and she scared him to death. I am not
sure what transpired after that, if he threw her out or what, but she
has been stalking him since then, too.

And there were several other guys that she stalked. She evidently cut
a wide swatch through the alt.fan.oj-simpson group. All of them have
gotten off of Usenet and practically gone into hiding to get away from
her as far as anyone can tell.

So that's Anderson in a nutshell. She looks like a kindly old
spinster, but she feels that she has been rejected by damned near
every guy that ever got near her, and she is vengeful.

Most people would just get over it. Anderson prefers to stalk 'em.
Post by Gregory Hall
The creative use of sockpuppets indicates an advanced intellect.
Personally, I would never, ever resort to a sock puppet.

And with that Gregory, let me tell you about ownership possibilities
pertaining to the Brooklyn Bridge. Did you hear that they are going
to condo it?

Peace, and happy holidays.



--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Lumped
2008-12-25 23:36:17 UTC
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 She knows that we all have figured out that her
Gaspar and Dumpy nyms are imaginary, >>
Hey, fuckhead. It's Lumpy.

That Kook group, whatever it is they do which is a goddamn mystery to
me, has people in it who can tell instantly who is here under an alias
and who isn't. I wasn't in this usenet place more than an hour and one
of them figured out where I was posting from and what my isp is and my
operating system and all that. So if you 'really' think that I'm
Karen, go and ask one of those people... they actually have the
computer skills to see. So quit your pussified loop about me being
her. It's obvious I'm not but if you want proof, then go find it. The
burden is not on me; you're merely stating and re-stating something
you say. No one else. I got a private email from the one called
Gaspar who gave me a name that checked out to be a real person. That's
all I know or care. The stupidity of this "who is a sock puppet"
thing, amongst the few of us who are the retards here, i.e., Ken
Ehrett, Gilmer, Karen, and marginally myself, is depressing. We know,
amongst our retarded selves, that the fake names you ran last week or
whenever it was, were you. We know when Karen is running all those
aliases. We know when Ken is doing it. I don't do it because I have at
least a smear of self-esteem left.

So shut the fuck up about the sock puppet thing. Real sock puppets are
pretty interesting, if you've ever had the awareness to see one. When
I first saw the antu group, I started to figure out a few of them, but
it took me awhile. You, Gilmer, are one of the most obtuse
individuals I have ever seen. It's astonishing, this lack of spark you
have. In other words, you're an idiot. There ought to be one those
kook awards for pussies who whine about sock puppet stuff.
Kooky Karen
2008-12-26 00:01:56 UTC
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Post by Lumped
 She knows that we all have figured out that her
Gaspar and Dumpy nyms are imaginary, >>
Hey, fuckhead. It's Lumpy.
Pretty fucking funny. Anderson is pissed off again because do one
believes her. And there is nothing like an irate screed from
Anderson, followed immediately by an equally irate screed from one of
her socks, to convince a person that a sock isn't a sock.

Kooky, kooky, kooky.

The Gaspar sock should be following along at any time to proclaim that
she's real, too.
Karen
2008-12-26 02:25:18 UTC
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Post by Lumped
Post by PyrateJohn
She knows that we all have figured out that her
Gaspar and Dumpy nyms are imaginary, >>
Hey, fuckhead. It's Lumpy.
LOL.....this is hilarious to me on several levels but I won't elaborate.
Post by Lumped
That Kook group, whatever it is they do which is a goddamn mystery to
me,
Same here. I tried for a few days to figure out what they're doing
because I recognize 2-3 of the posters there from the old days on other
groups. I can't imagine why they hang there now or what the group and
the awards are about. They seem like a satellite to groups where normal
(most of them) gather and share info, etc. Gilmer thinks it's just the
GREATEST thing that he pushed them to give me several awards and they
for SURE are the END of me on Usenet. I don't see or feel that at ALL.
It doesn't affect me or change my M.O. He gets all excited by the
strangest things...

has people in it who can tell instantly who is here under an alias
Post by Lumped
and who isn't. I wasn't in this usenet place more than an hour and one
of them figured out where I was posting from and what my isp is and my
operating system and all that.
It's in the "headers" and lots of people know how to read headers. Real
computer experts know every single thing in them, but I only know enough
to figure out some basics and trip up a few people. Some headers are
nearly worthless to me and Ken/Sarah know how to totally alter a header.
I grudgingly admire that as I didn't think people could do that. The
headers of a post can't be denied, I believed. Guess they can.

So if you 'really' think that I'm
Post by Lumped
Karen, go and ask one of those people... they actually have the
computer skills to see.
Claiming you and Jose Gaspar are Karen has kept him going a long time.
If that is taken away, his bag of tricks will be pretty empty. John
does whatever works for him. Facts and reality haven't much to do with
it. He admits he lives on another "plane", in an alternate reality.
Who can possibly rationalize with a pekkerhead like that?

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Karen's -Posting-Host: 17021ca7dc4a399535705aa7f5d5817c <ooops>


Comcast office is in Bremerton (a mile up the road from me) Bainbridge
Island isn't that far from here as the crow flies, but quite a distance
by car.

Jose Gaspar in FL posts through Newsguy so his header is brief and
doesn't reveal much.
NNTP-Posting-Host: a785.newsdawg.com

One of his email addresses traces to Atlanta, GA and is "relayed" after
that. I'm not about to post the trace results here.



So quit your pussified loop about me being
Post by Lumped
her. It's obvious I'm not but if you want proof, then go find it.
He never lets the truth get in the way of a good "tale". Anybody with 2
working brain cells can see that your style and mine is so totally
different and we are both consistent in how we write. I can see some
similarity in me and the FL gent, but you both write about things I have
no knowledge of so how could I be writing your posts? Gilmer is saying
that I am waaaay smarter than I really am, but I doubt that is his
intention (not that he's ANY judge of other people's intelligence).

The
Post by Lumped
burden is not on me; you're merely stating and re-stating something
you say. No one else.
Sarah insists you and Jose are my nyms. John believe ALL that she
claims.

I got a private email from the one called
Post by Lumped
Gaspar who gave me a name that checked out to be a real person.
He is who he says he is and lives where he says he does and we both know
his real name. I've sent him several things in the mail and they aren't
returned. He photographs them and sends me the files. I've known him
on newsgroups and via email for more than a decade. He did a US Search
for me once many years back when he had 24 hrs. of free service. I gave
him a couple of names and then John W. Gilmer, III He sent back lots
of information he'd obtained but it was a meaningless name to him at the
time. I never expected he'd ever know the bastard otherwise. Funny how
things work ... ;')

That's
Post by Lumped
all I know or care.
He's not putting you on. Believe what he tells you and what you know
about him. He accidently emailed Gilmer once when he meant to send it
to Hoodoo. Gilmer is so STUPID that he thought it was some motorcycle
guy and deleted the email. Of course, he didn't remember the name ...
"Jose" and I share a lot of laughs about how DUMB Gilmer is.

The stupidity of this "who is a sock puppet"
Post by Lumped
thing, amongst the few of us who are the retards here, i.e., Ken
Ehrett, Gilmer, Karen, and marginally myself, is depressing.
And the ones hollering the loudest are the ones using the most of them.
Ken is playing the biggest sock puppet game of ALL with his "Sarah"
persona. They are especially tiresome because of the flat
attitude....aren't they EVER happy or nice to anybody?

We know,
Post by Lumped
amongst our retarded selves, that the fake names you ran last week or
whenever it was, were you.
He really outdid himself with creating new nyms and the whole crowd
suddenly landed and began attacking me....additional information, too.
Then they talked/replied to each other. His writing and focus on KAREN
is so transparent; yet he is convinced everybody is falling for it all.
I USED to think they were, but he has waaaay overplayed his hand and
it's the rare person who believes him at this point. He's even been
told to GET OUT of AUK. That's pretty extreme, I would say.

We know when Karen is running all those
Post by Lumped
aliases.
*moi* I don't need Team Karen members now that I'm posting as myself.
They are just lurking now. There definitely were various people posting
but not from their own computers.

We know when Ken is doing it. I don't do it because I have at
Post by Lumped
least a smear of self-esteem left.
But you keep changing your name. Your writing style is so apparant to
me that I always recognize you. But I don't open a lot of posts if I
don't know who is posting. I'm probably missing some things ..
Post by Lumped
So shut the fuck up about the sock puppet thing. Real sock puppets are
pretty interesting, if you've ever had the awareness to see one.
Only his OWN. I wonder what's in his head when he uses Karen (in
various forms) to post. He can't deny his goofy writing style or his
"attitude". I think he's doing that for Google Archives so if somebody
searches for my name they will assume I wrote all that crap that he
wrote forging my name, stealing my identity. He is a *thief* in every
area I can think of...

When
Post by Lumped
I first saw the antu group, I started to figure out a few of them, but
it took me awhile. You, Gilmer, are one of the most obtuse
individuals I have ever seen.
obtuse:
a: lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect :
insensitive , stupid
b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or
expression

It's astonishing, this lack of spark you
Post by Lumped
have.
I've never run across anybody like him either. "obtuse" is accurate.
He's also got glaring psychotic symptoms. Read books on Sociopathy and
Narcissism. He's a classic Psychopath. I wonder if he knows it and
doesn't care or if he has no self-awareness of his problems. Scary
either way. Amazing that three wives got away from him with their
lives, tho I know he beat at least one of them pretty severely on a
regular basis.

Gilmer not only has no "spark"; he has no bottom and that is scary.
There is NOTHING he won't do if he thinks he can get away with it and
not go to jail. He has no boundaries....anything goes. No conscience,
no guilt, no remorse....and virtually no other human feelings or
emotions. He is very creepy underneath those masks he wears and I doubt
ANYbody knows the things he's done. There are lot of dead people whose
killer has never been found; yet they are at the gas station, the check
out lines at WalMart and driving next to us on the streets and highways.
Or working with others who have no clue.
Post by Lumped
In other words, you're an idiot.
Haw Haw....you are at least the tenth person that has come to that
conclusion and posted it on the internet. Several of them have MET
Gilmer in person and came to the conclusion he is an IDIOT.

There ought to be one those
Post by Lumped
kook awards for pussies who whine about sock puppet stuff.
I think it's an issue of some kind at AUK but don't know if they are for
it or against it. Some of the big wheels use many different nyms...

Gilmer is the LAST person on all of Usenet to whine about sockpuppets
because he uses them prolifically himself. But never let it be said
that Gilmer is not a *hypocrite*.
Kadaitcha Man
2008-12-26 04:13:17 UTC
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Karen, ye swag-bellied that work for bread, thou hast not so much brain
Post by Karen
Post by Lumped
Post by PyrateJohn
She knows that we all have figured out that her
Gaspar and Dumpy nyms are imaginary, >>
Hey, fuckhead. It's Lumpy.
LOL.....this is hilarious to me on several levels but I won't
elaborate.
Post by Lumped
That Kook group, whatever it is they do which is a goddamn mystery to
me,
Same here. I tried for a few days to figure out what they're doing
because I recognize 2-3 of the posters there from the old days on
other groups. I can't imagine why they hang there now or what the
group and the awards are about. They seem like a satellite to groups
where normal (most of them) gather and share info, etc. Gilmer
thinks it's just the GREATEST thing that he pushed them to give me
several awards and they for SURE are the END of me on Usenet. I
don't see or feel that at ALL. It doesn't affect me or change my M.O.
He gets all excited by the strangest things...
has people in it who can tell instantly who is here under an alias
Post by Lumped
and who isn't. I wasn't in this usenet place more than an hour and
one of them figured out where I was posting from and what my isp is
and my operating system and all that.
It's in the "headers" and lots of people know how to read headers. Real
computer experts know every single thing in them, but I only
know enough to figure out some basics and trip up a few people. Some
headers are nearly worthless to me and Ken/Sarah know how to totally
alter a header. I grudgingly admire that as I didn't think people
could do that. The headers of a post can't be denied, I believed. Guess
they can.
So if you 'really' think that I'm
Post by Lumped
Karen, go and ask one of those people... they actually have the
computer skills to see.
Claiming you and Jose Gaspar are Karen has kept him going a long time.
If that is taken away, his bag of tricks will be pretty empty. John
does whatever works for him. Facts and reality haven't much to do
with it. He admits he lives on another "plane", in an alternate
reality. Who can possibly rationalize with a pekkerhead like that?
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1 10 6 6 72.249.0.65 -
2 142 211 220 8.9.232.73 te-3-4.car1.dallas1.level3.net
3 7 6 12 4.68.19.8 ae-1-69.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
4 42 42 40 4.71.198.14 comcast-ip.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
5 41 42 43 68.86.85.137
pos-0-15-0-0-cr01.losangeles.ca.ibone.comcast.net
6 52 56 52 68.86.85.189
pos-0-9-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.net
7 70 67 64 68.86.85.161
pos-0-13-0-0-cr01.portland.or.ibone.comcast.net
8 69 68 68 68.86.90.218
te-9-3-ar02.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net
9 85 69 69 68.86.96.45
te-9-1-ur01.bremerton.wa.seattle.comcast.net
10 70 80 70 68.87.205.46
ge-4-1-0-ten01.bremerton.wa.seattle.comcast.net
11 81 80 90 76.121.89.4 c-76-121-89-4.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
Karen's -Posting-Host: 17021ca7dc4a399535705aa7f5d5817c <ooops>
Comcast office is in Bremerton (a mile up the road from me) Bainbridge
Island isn't that far from here as the crow flies, but
quite a distance by car.
Jose Gaspar in FL posts through Newsguy so his header is brief and
doesn't reveal much.
NNTP-Posting-Host: a785.newsdawg.com
One of his email addresses traces to Atlanta, GA and is "relayed"
after that. I'm not about to post the trace results here.
So quit your pussified loop about me being
Post by Lumped
her. It's obvious I'm not but if you want proof, then go find it.
He never lets the truth get in the way of a good "tale". Anybody
with 2 working brain cells can see that your style and mine is so
totally different and we are both consistent in how we write. I can
see some similarity in me and the FL gent, but you both write about
things I have no knowledge of so how could I be writing your posts? Gilmer
is saying that I am waaaay smarter than I really am, but I
doubt that is his intention (not that he's ANY judge of other
people's intelligence).
The
Post by Lumped
burden is not on me; you're merely stating and re-stating something
you say. No one else.
Sarah insists you and Jose are my nyms. John believe ALL that she
claims.
I got a private email from the one called
Post by Lumped
Gaspar who gave me a name that checked out to be a real person.
He is who he says he is and lives where he says he does and we both
know his real name. I've sent him several things in the mail and
they aren't returned. He photographs them and sends me the files. I've
known him on newsgroups and via email for more than a decade. He did a US
Search for me once many years back when he had 24 hrs. of
free service. I gave him a couple of names and then John W. Gilmer,
III He sent back lots of information he'd obtained but it was a
meaningless name to him at the time. I never expected he'd ever know
the bastard otherwise. Funny how things work ... ;')
That's
Post by Lumped
all I know or care.
He's not putting you on. Believe what he tells you and what you know
about him. He accidently emailed Gilmer once when he meant to send it
to Hoodoo. Gilmer is so STUPID that he thought it was some motorcycle
guy and deleted the email. Of course, he didn't remember the name ...
"Jose" and I share a lot of laughs about how DUMB Gilmer is.
The stupidity of this "who is a sock puppet"
Post by Lumped
thing, amongst the few of us who are the retards here, i.e., Ken
Ehrett, Gilmer, Karen, and marginally myself, is depressing.
And the ones hollering the loudest are the ones using the most of
them. Ken is playing the biggest sock puppet game of ALL with his
"Sarah" persona. They are especially tiresome because of the flat
attitude....aren't they EVER happy or nice to anybody?
We know,
Post by Lumped
amongst our retarded selves, that the fake names you ran last week or
whenever it was, were you.
He really outdid himself with creating new nyms and the whole crowd
suddenly landed and began attacking me....additional information, too.
Then they talked/replied to each other. His writing and focus on
KAREN is so transparent; yet he is convinced everybody is falling for
it all. I USED to think they were, but he has waaaay overplayed his
hand and it's the rare person who believes him at this point. He's
even been told to GET OUT of AUK. That's pretty extreme, I would say.
We know when Karen is running all those
Post by Lumped
aliases.
*moi* I don't need Team Karen members now that I'm posting as myself.
They are just lurking now. There definitely were various people
posting but not from their own computers.
We know when Ken is doing it. I don't do it because I have at
Post by Lumped
least a smear of self-esteem left.
But you keep changing your name. Your writing style is so apparant to
me that I always recognize you. But I don't open a lot of posts if I
don't know who is posting. I'm probably missing some things ..
Post by Lumped
So shut the fuck up about the sock puppet thing. Real sock puppets
are pretty interesting, if you've ever had the awareness to see one.
Only his OWN. I wonder what's in his head when he uses Karen (in
various forms) to post. He can't deny his goofy writing style or his
"attitude". I think he's doing that for Google Archives so if
somebody searches for my name they will assume I wrote all that crap
that he wrote forging my name, stealing my identity. He is a *thief*
in every area I can think of...
When
Post by Lumped
I first saw the antu group, I started to figure out a few of them,
but it took me awhile. You, Gilmer, are one of the most obtuse
individuals I have ever seen.
insensitive , stupid
b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or
expression
It's astonishing, this lack of spark you
Post by Lumped
have.
I've never run across anybody like him either. "obtuse" is accurate.
He's also got glaring psychotic symptoms. Read books on Sociopathy
and Narcissism. He's a classic Psychopath. I wonder if he knows it
and doesn't care or if he has no self-awareness of his problems. Scary
either way. Amazing that three wives got away from him with
their lives, tho I know he beat at least one of them pretty severely
on a regular basis.
Gilmer not only has no "spark"; he has no bottom and that is scary.
There is NOTHING he won't do if he thinks he can get away with it and
not go to jail. He has no boundaries....anything goes. No
conscience, no guilt, no remorse....and virtually no other human
feelings or emotions. He is very creepy underneath those masks he
wears and I doubt ANYbody knows the things he's done. There are lot
of dead people whose killer has never been found; yet they are at the
gas station, the check out lines at WalMart and driving next to us on
the streets and highways. Or working with others who have no clue.
Post by Lumped
In other words, you're an idiot.
Haw Haw....you are at least the tenth person that has come to that
conclusion and posted it on the internet. Several of them have MET
Gilmer in person and came to the conclusion he is an IDIOT.
There ought to be one those
Post by Lumped
kook awards for pussies who whine about sock puppet stuff.
I think it's an issue of some kind at AUK but don't know if they are
for it or against it. Some of the big wheels use many different
nyms...
Gilmer is the LAST person on all of Usenet to whine about sockpuppets
because he uses them prolifically himself. But never let it be said
that Gilmer is not a *hypocrite*.
Edmond Wollmann Memorial "Rubber Turkey"
========================================
Named in honor of the greatest of all Christmas Day kook-outs, this award
honors those who would rather spend public holidays frothing continuously on
Usenet than risk contact with human beings in real life.

For the above screedbomb kookout, I hereby nominate Karen, whatever the fuck
her last name is, for the auspicious alt.usenet.kooks Edmond Wollmann
Memorial "Rubber Turkey".

Anyone for seconds?

Oh, yeah, it's Boxing Day here in West Timor.
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raw olive, chewy hodgepodge of snail and lamb with whole shark, gore, a
side of blue whale stomach carcinoma and a shot glass of needlefish
drool.
Lumpy
2008-12-26 04:28:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Named in honor of the greatest of all Christmas Day kook-outs, this award
honors those who would rather spend public holidays frothing continuously on
Usenet than risk contact with human beings in real life.
Contacts with human beings is highly over-rated. You'll understand
this when you get older. Especially contact during Christmas, where
the only sensible place is in the dim recesses of a Roman Catholic
church, contemplating the themes of corruption, desolation, surrender
and resurrection. And if one can't froth on usenet, then where, for
God's sake.
Karen
2008-12-26 05:31:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lumpy
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Named in honor of the greatest of all Christmas Day kook-outs, this
award honors those who would rather spend public holidays frothing
continuously on Usenet than risk contact with human beings in real
life.
Contacts with human beings is highly over-rated. You'll understand
this when you get older.
Couldn't agree more. The more I get to know people, the more I like
animals.

Especially contact during Christmas, where
Post by Lumpy
the only sensible place is in the dim recesses of a Roman Catholic
church, contemplating the themes of corruption, desolation, surrender
and resurrection.
Really.

And if one can't froth on usenet, then where, for
Post by Lumpy
God's sake.
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 04:33:40 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:13:17 GMT, "Kadaitcha Man" <***@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

:>Karen, ye swag-bellied that work for bread, thou hast not so much brain
:>as ear wax, ye beamed:
:>
:>> "Lumped" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
:>> news:7539b25c-ef8e-4f49-bf41-***@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com
:>>> On Dec 25, 3:06 pm, PyrateJohn <***@gmail.com> wrote:
:>>>> She knows that we all have figured out that her
:>>>> Gaspar and Dumpy nyms are imaginary, >>
:>>>
:>>> Hey, fuckhead. It's Lumpy.
:>>
:>> LOL.....this is hilarious to me on several levels but I won't
:>> elaborate.
:>>>
:>>> That Kook group, whatever it is they do which is a goddamn mystery to
:>>> me,
:>>
:>> Same here. I tried for a few days to figure out what they're doing
:>> because I recognize 2-3 of the posters there from the old days on
:>> other groups. I can't imagine why they hang there now or what the
:>> group and the awards are about. They seem like a satellite to groups
:>> where normal (most of them) gather and share info, etc. Gilmer
:>> thinks it's just the GREATEST thing that he pushed them to give me
:>> several awards and they for SURE are the END of me on Usenet. I
:>> don't see or feel that at ALL. It doesn't affect me or change my M.O.
:>> He gets all excited by the strangest things...
:>>
:>> has people in it who can tell instantly who is here under an alias
:>>> and who isn't. I wasn't in this usenet place more than an hour and
:>>> one of them figured out where I was posting from and what my isp is
:>>> and my operating system and all that.
:>>
:>> It's in the "headers" and lots of people know how to read headers. Real
:>> computer experts know every single thing in them, but I only
:>> know enough to figure out some basics and trip up a few people. Some
:>> headers are nearly worthless to me and Ken/Sarah know how to totally
:>> alter a header. I grudgingly admire that as I didn't think people
:>> could do that. The headers of a post can't be denied, I believed. Guess
:>> they can.
:>> So if you 'really' think that I'm
:>>> Karen, go and ask one of those people... they actually have the
:>>> computer skills to see.
:>>
:>> Claiming you and Jose Gaspar are Karen has kept him going a long time.
:>> If that is taken away, his bag of tricks will be pretty empty. John
:>> does whatever works for him. Facts and reality haven't much to do
:>> with it. He admits he lives on another "plane", in an alternate
:>> reality. Who can possibly rationalize with a pekkerhead like that?
:>>
:>> Your Posting Host # 76.121.89.4 traces to:
:>>
:>> TraceRoute to 76.121.89.4 [c-76-121-89-4.hsd1.wa.comcast.net]
:>>
:>> Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
:>>
:>> 1 10 6 6 72.249.0.65 -
:>>
:>> 2 142 211 220 8.9.232.73 te-3-4.car1.dallas1.level3.net
:>>
:>> 3 7 6 12 4.68.19.8 ae-1-69.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
:>>
:>> 4 42 42 40 4.71.198.14 comcast-ip.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
:>>
:>> 5 41 42 43 68.86.85.137
:>> pos-0-15-0-0-cr01.losangeles.ca.ibone.comcast.net
:>>
:>> 6 52 56 52 68.86.85.189
:>> pos-0-9-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.net
:>>
:>> 7 70 67 64 68.86.85.161
:>> pos-0-13-0-0-cr01.portland.or.ibone.comcast.net
:>>
:>> 8 69 68 68 68.86.90.218
:>> te-9-3-ar02.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net
:>>
:>> 9 85 69 69 68.86.96.45
:>> te-9-1-ur01.bremerton.wa.seattle.comcast.net
:>>
:>> 10 70 80 70 68.87.205.46
:>> ge-4-1-0-ten01.bremerton.wa.seattle.comcast.net
:>>
:>> 11 81 80 90 76.121.89.4 c-76-121-89-4.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>> Karen's -Posting-Host: 17021ca7dc4a399535705aa7f5d5817c <ooops>
:>>
:>>
:>> Comcast office is in Bremerton (a mile up the road from me) Bainbridge
:>> Island isn't that far from here as the crow flies, but
:>> quite a distance by car.
:>>
:>> Jose Gaspar in FL posts through Newsguy so his header is brief and
:>> doesn't reveal much.
:>> NNTP-Posting-Host: a785.newsdawg.com
:>>
:>> One of his email addresses traces to Atlanta, GA and is "relayed"
:>> after that. I'm not about to post the trace results here.
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>> So quit your pussified loop about me being
:>>> her. It's obvious I'm not but if you want proof, then go find it.
:>>
:>> He never lets the truth get in the way of a good "tale". Anybody
:>> with 2 working brain cells can see that your style and mine is so
:>> totally different and we are both consistent in how we write. I can
:>> see some similarity in me and the FL gent, but you both write about
:>> things I have no knowledge of so how could I be writing your posts? Gilmer
:>> is saying that I am waaaay smarter than I really am, but I
:>> doubt that is his intention (not that he's ANY judge of other
:>> people's intelligence).
:>> The
:>>> burden is not on me; you're merely stating and re-stating something
:>>> you say. No one else.
:>>
:>> Sarah insists you and Jose are my nyms. John believe ALL that she
:>> claims.
:>>
:>> I got a private email from the one called
:>>> Gaspar who gave me a name that checked out to be a real person.
:>>
:>> He is who he says he is and lives where he says he does and we both
:>> know his real name. I've sent him several things in the mail and
:>> they aren't returned. He photographs them and sends me the files. I've
:>> known him on newsgroups and via email for more than a decade. He did a US
:>> Search for me once many years back when he had 24 hrs. of
:>> free service. I gave him a couple of names and then John W. Gilmer,
:>> III He sent back lots of information he'd obtained but it was a
:>> meaningless name to him at the time. I never expected he'd ever know
:>> the bastard otherwise. Funny how things work ... ;')
:>>
:>> That's
:>>> all I know or care.
:>>
:>> He's not putting you on. Believe what he tells you and what you know
:>> about him. He accidently emailed Gilmer once when he meant to send it
:>> to Hoodoo. Gilmer is so STUPID that he thought it was some motorcycle
:>> guy and deleted the email. Of course, he didn't remember the name ...
:>> "Jose" and I share a lot of laughs about how DUMB Gilmer is.
:>>
:>> The stupidity of this "who is a sock puppet"
:>>> thing, amongst the few of us who are the retards here, i.e., Ken
:>>> Ehrett, Gilmer, Karen, and marginally myself, is depressing.
:>>
:>> And the ones hollering the loudest are the ones using the most of
:>> them. Ken is playing the biggest sock puppet game of ALL with his
:>> "Sarah" persona. They are especially tiresome because of the flat
:>> attitude....aren't they EVER happy or nice to anybody?
:>>
:>> We know,
:>>> amongst our retarded selves, that the fake names you ran last week or
:>>> whenever it was, were you.
:>>
:>> He really outdid himself with creating new nyms and the whole crowd
:>> suddenly landed and began attacking me....additional information, too.
:>> Then they talked/replied to each other. His writing and focus on
:>> KAREN is so transparent; yet he is convinced everybody is falling for
:>> it all. I USED to think they were, but he has waaaay overplayed his
:>> hand and it's the rare person who believes him at this point. He's
:>> even been told to GET OUT of AUK. That's pretty extreme, I would say.
:>>
:>> We know when Karen is running all those
:>>> aliases.
:>>
:>> *moi* I don't need Team Karen members now that I'm posting as myself.
:>> They are just lurking now. There definitely were various people
:>> posting but not from their own computers.
:>>
:>> We know when Ken is doing it. I don't do it because I have at
:>>> least a smear of self-esteem left.
:>>
:>> But you keep changing your name. Your writing style is so apparant to
:>> me that I always recognize you. But I don't open a lot of posts if I
:>> don't know who is posting. I'm probably missing some things ..
:>>
:>>>
:>>> So shut the fuck up about the sock puppet thing. Real sock puppets
:>>> are pretty interesting, if you've ever had the awareness to see one.
:>>
:>> Only his OWN. I wonder what's in his head when he uses Karen (in
:>> various forms) to post. He can't deny his goofy writing style or his
:>> "attitude". I think he's doing that for Google Archives so if
:>> somebody searches for my name they will assume I wrote all that crap
:>> that he wrote forging my name, stealing my identity. He is a *thief*
:>> in every area I can think of...
:>>
:>> When
:>>> I first saw the antu group, I started to figure out a few of them,
:>>> but it took me awhile. You, Gilmer, are one of the most obtuse
:>>> individuals I have ever seen.
:>>
:>> obtuse:
:>> a: lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect :
:>> insensitive , stupid
:>> b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or
:>> expression
:>>
:>> It's astonishing, this lack of spark you
:>>> have.
:>>
:>> I've never run across anybody like him either. "obtuse" is accurate.
:>> He's also got glaring psychotic symptoms. Read books on Sociopathy
:>> and Narcissism. He's a classic Psychopath. I wonder if he knows it
:>> and doesn't care or if he has no self-awareness of his problems. Scary
:>> either way. Amazing that three wives got away from him with
:>> their lives, tho I know he beat at least one of them pretty severely
:>> on a regular basis.
:>>
:>> Gilmer not only has no "spark"; he has no bottom and that is scary.
:>> There is NOTHING he won't do if he thinks he can get away with it and
:>> not go to jail. He has no boundaries....anything goes. No
:>> conscience, no guilt, no remorse....and virtually no other human
:>> feelings or emotions. He is very creepy underneath those masks he
:>> wears and I doubt ANYbody knows the things he's done. There are lot
:>> of dead people whose killer has never been found; yet they are at the
:>> gas station, the check out lines at WalMart and driving next to us on
:>> the streets and highways. Or working with others who have no clue.
:>>
:>>
:>>> In other words, you're an idiot.
:>>
:>> Haw Haw....you are at least the tenth person that has come to that
:>> conclusion and posted it on the internet. Several of them have MET
:>> Gilmer in person and came to the conclusion he is an IDIOT.
:>>
:>> There ought to be one those
:>>> kook awards for pussies who whine about sock puppet stuff.
:>>
:>> I think it's an issue of some kind at AUK but don't know if they are
:>> for it or against it. Some of the big wheels use many different
:>> nyms...
:>> Gilmer is the LAST person on all of Usenet to whine about sockpuppets
:>> because he uses them prolifically himself. But never let it be said
:>> that Gilmer is not a *hypocrite*.
:>
:>Edmond Wollmann Memorial "Rubber Turkey"
:>========================================
:>Named in honor of the greatest of all Christmas Day kook-outs, this award
:>honors those who would rather spend public holidays frothing continuously on
:>Usenet than risk contact with human beings in real life.
:>
:>For the above screedbomb kookout, I hereby nominate Karen, whatever the fuck
:>her last name is, for the auspicious alt.usenet.kooks Edmond Wollmann
:>Memorial "Rubber Turkey".
:>
:>Anyone for seconds?

If I may then yes, seconded.

:>Oh, yeah, it's Boxing Day here in West Timor.

Did you have a good Christmas, R? How old are the kiddies? You must have
some in their teens or older, no?

----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Kadaitcha Man
2008-12-26 04:44:12 UTC
Permalink
Sarah Ehrett, ye awful count comfect, thou art unfit for any place but
Post by Sarah Ehrett
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:13:17 GMT, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Karen, ye swag-bellied that work for bread, thou hast not so much brain
Post by Karen
Post by Lumped
Post by PyrateJohn
She knows that we all have figured out that her
Gaspar and Dumpy nyms are imaginary, >>
Hey, fuckhead. It's Lumpy.
LOL.....this is hilarious to me on several levels but I won't elaborate.
Post by Lumped
That Kook group, whatever it is they do which is a goddamn
mystery to me,
Same here. I tried for a few days to figure out what they're doing
because I recognize 2-3 of the posters there from the old days on
other groups. I can't imagine why they hang there now or what the
group and the awards are about. They seem like a satellite to
groups where normal (most of them) gather and share info, etc.
Gilmer
thinks it's just the GREATEST thing that he pushed them to give me
several awards and they for SURE are the END of me on Usenet. I
don't see or feel that at ALL. It doesn't affect me or change my M.O.
He gets all excited by the strangest things...
has people in it who can tell instantly who is here under an alias
Post by Lumped
and who isn't. I wasn't in this usenet place more than an hour and
one of them figured out where I was posting from and what my isp
is and my operating system and all that.
It's in the "headers" and lots of people know how to read headers.
Real computer experts know every single thing in them, but I only
know enough to figure out some basics and trip up a few people.
Some headers are nearly worthless to me and Ken/Sarah know how to
totally alter a header. I grudgingly admire that as I didn't think
people
could do that. The headers of a post can't be denied, I believed.
Guess they can.
So if you 'really' think that I'm
Post by Lumped
Karen, go and ask one of those people... they actually have the
computer skills to see.
Claiming you and Jose Gaspar are Karen has kept him going a long time.
If that is taken away, his bag of tricks will be pretty empty.
John
does whatever works for him. Facts and reality haven't much to do
with it. He admits he lives on another "plane", in an alternate
reality. Who can possibly rationalize with a pekkerhead like that?
TraceRoute to 76.121.89.4 [c-76-121-89-4.hsd1.wa.comcast.net]
Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
1 10 6 6 72.249.0.65 -
2 142 211 220 8.9.232.73 te-3-4.car1.dallas1.level3.net
3 7 6 12 4.68.19.8 ae-1-69.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
4 42 42 40 4.71.198.14 comcast-ip.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
5 41 42 43 68.86.85.137
pos-0-15-0-0-cr01.losangeles.ca.ibone.comcast.net
6 52 56 52 68.86.85.189
pos-0-9-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.net
7 70 67 64 68.86.85.161
pos-0-13-0-0-cr01.portland.or.ibone.comcast.net
8 69 68 68 68.86.90.218
te-9-3-ar02.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net
9 85 69 69 68.86.96.45
te-9-1-ur01.bremerton.wa.seattle.comcast.net
10 70 80 70 68.87.205.46
ge-4-1-0-ten01.bremerton.wa.seattle.comcast.net
11 81 80 90 76.121.89.4 c-76-121-89-4.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
Karen's -Posting-Host: 17021ca7dc4a399535705aa7f5d5817c <ooops>
Comcast office is in Bremerton (a mile up the road from me)
Bainbridge Island isn't that far from here as the crow flies, but
quite a distance by car.
Jose Gaspar in FL posts through Newsguy so his header is brief and
doesn't reveal much.
NNTP-Posting-Host: a785.newsdawg.com
One of his email addresses traces to Atlanta, GA and is "relayed"
after that. I'm not about to post the trace results here.
So quit your pussified loop about me being
Post by Lumped
her. It's obvious I'm not but if you want proof, then go find it.
He never lets the truth get in the way of a good "tale". Anybody
with 2 working brain cells can see that your style and mine is so
totally different and we are both consistent in how we write. I can
see some similarity in me and the FL gent, but you both write about
things I have no knowledge of so how could I be writing your
posts? Gilmer is saying that I am waaaay smarter than I really am,
but I
doubt that is his intention (not that he's ANY judge of other
people's intelligence).
The
Post by Lumped
burden is not on me; you're merely stating and re-stating
something you say. No one else.
Sarah insists you and Jose are my nyms. John believe ALL that she
claims.
I got a private email from the one called
Post by Lumped
Gaspar who gave me a name that checked out to be a real person.
He is who he says he is and lives where he says he does and we both
know his real name. I've sent him several things in the mail and
they aren't returned. He photographs them and sends me the files.
I've known him on newsgroups and via email for more than a decade.
He did a US Search for me once many years back when he had 24 hrs.
of
free service. I gave him a couple of names and then John W. Gilmer,
III He sent back lots of information he'd obtained but it was a
meaningless name to him at the time. I never expected he'd ever know
the bastard otherwise. Funny how things work ... ;')
That's
Post by Lumped
all I know or care.
He's not putting you on. Believe what he tells you and what you
know about him. He accidently emailed Gilmer once when he meant
to send it
to Hoodoo. Gilmer is so STUPID that he thought it was some
motorcycle guy and deleted the email. Of course, he didn't
remember the name ... "Jose" and I share a lot of laughs about how
DUMB Gilmer is.
The stupidity of this "who is a sock puppet"
Post by Lumped
thing, amongst the few of us who are the retards here, i.e., Ken
Ehrett, Gilmer, Karen, and marginally myself, is depressing.
And the ones hollering the loudest are the ones using the most of
them. Ken is playing the biggest sock puppet game of ALL with his
"Sarah" persona. They are especially tiresome because of the flat
attitude....aren't they EVER happy or nice to anybody?
We know,
Post by Lumped
amongst our retarded selves, that the fake names you ran last
week or whenever it was, were you.
He really outdid himself with creating new nyms and the whole crowd
suddenly landed and began attacking me....additional information,
too. Then they talked/replied to each other. His writing and
focus on
KAREN is so transparent; yet he is convinced everybody is falling for
it all. I USED to think they were, but he has waaaay overplayed his
hand and it's the rare person who believes him at this point. He's
even been told to GET OUT of AUK. That's pretty extreme, I would say.
We know when Karen is running all those
Post by Lumped
aliases.
*moi* I don't need Team Karen members now that I'm posting as
myself. They are just lurking now. There definitely were various
people
posting but not from their own computers.
We know when Ken is doing it. I don't do it because I have at
Post by Lumped
least a smear of self-esteem left.
But you keep changing your name. Your writing style is so
apparant to
me that I always recognize you. But I don't open a lot of posts
if I don't know who is posting. I'm probably missing some things
..
Post by Lumped
So shut the fuck up about the sock puppet thing. Real sock puppets
are pretty interesting, if you've ever had the awareness to see one.
Only his OWN. I wonder what's in his head when he uses Karen (in
various forms) to post. He can't deny his goofy writing style or
his "attitude". I think he's doing that for Google Archives so if
somebody searches for my name they will assume I wrote all that crap
that he wrote forging my name, stealing my identity. He is a *thief*
in every area I can think of...
When
Post by Lumped
I first saw the antu group, I started to figure out a few of them,
but it took me awhile. You, Gilmer, are one of the most obtuse
individuals I have ever seen.
insensitive , stupid
b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or
expression
It's astonishing, this lack of spark you
Post by Lumped
have.
I've never run across anybody like him either. "obtuse" is
accurate. He's also got glaring psychotic symptoms. Read books on
Sociopathy
and Narcissism. He's a classic Psychopath. I wonder if he knows it
and doesn't care or if he has no self-awareness of his problems.
Scary either way. Amazing that three wives got away from him with
their lives, tho I know he beat at least one of them pretty
severely
on a regular basis.
Gilmer not only has no "spark"; he has no bottom and that is scary.
There is NOTHING he won't do if he thinks he can get away with it and
not go to jail. He has no boundaries....anything goes. No
conscience, no guilt, no remorse....and virtually no other human
feelings or emotions. He is very creepy underneath those masks he
wears and I doubt ANYbody knows the things he's done. There are lot
of dead people whose killer has never been found; yet they are at the
gas station, the check out lines at WalMart and driving next to us on
the streets and highways. Or working with others who have no clue.
Post by Lumped
In other words, you're an idiot.
Haw Haw....you are at least the tenth person that has come to that
conclusion and posted it on the internet. Several of them have MET
Gilmer in person and came to the conclusion he is an IDIOT.
There ought to be one those
Post by Lumped
kook awards for pussies who whine about sock puppet stuff.
I think it's an issue of some kind at AUK but don't know if they are
for it or against it. Some of the big wheels use many different
nyms...
Gilmer is the LAST person on all of Usenet to whine about
sockpuppets because he uses them prolifically himself. But never
let it be said
that Gilmer is not a *hypocrite*.
Edmond Wollmann Memorial "Rubber Turkey"
========================================
Named in honor of the greatest of all Christmas Day kook-outs, this
award honors those who would rather spend public holidays frothing
continuously on Usenet than risk contact with human beings in real
life.
For the above screedbomb kookout, I hereby nominate Karen, whatever
the fuck her last name is, for the auspicious alt.usenet.kooks
Edmond Wollmann Memorial "Rubber Turkey".
Anyone for seconds?
If I may then yes, seconded.
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Oh, yeah, it's Boxing Day here in West Timor.
Did you have a good Christmas, R?
I had an orgy for christmas.
Post by Sarah Ehrett
How old are the kiddies? You
must have some in their teens or older, no?
I have four grandchildren, dearie.
Post by Sarah Ehrett
----
" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "
http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
--
alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

Hammer of Thor: February 2007.
Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005, April 2006, January 2007, August 2008.
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, Official owner
and trainer of Bucky Breeder, August 2008.
Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660
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Member of:
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Find me on Google Maps: 24°39'47.13"S, 134°4'20.18"E

Join me for dinner. I'm cooking purulent human armpit hairs accompanied
with rotten erupting pimples with sinister pancreas aside ugly blow
flies, cooked in a chilled cup chock full of burnt nut, big particles of
vaginal yeast and bacon with whole shrimp, congealed blood, a side of
foetal mountain goat lung and a goblet of Vietnamese snake wine.
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 04:58:28 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:44:12 GMT, "Kadaitcha Man" <***@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

:>Sarah Ehrett, ye awful count comfect, thou art unfit for any place but
:>hell, ye ejaculated:
:>
:>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:13:17 GMT, "Kadaitcha Man"
:>> <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:
:>>
:>>
:>> Did you have a good Christmas, R?
:>
:>I had an orgy for christmas.

Nonsense, I've seen your X-rays !

:>> How old are the kiddies? You
:>> must have some in their teens or older, no?
:>
:>I have four grandchildren, dearie.

Egads you're older than dirt!



----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Kadaitcha Man
2008-12-26 06:24:26 UTC
Permalink
Sarah Ehrett, ye jaded weird woman, you, that are polluted with your
lusts, stained with the guiltless blood of innocents, corrupt and
Post by Sarah Ehrett
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:44:12 GMT, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Sarah Ehrett, ye awful count comfect, thou art unfit for any place
Post by Sarah Ehrett
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:13:17 GMT, "Kadaitcha Man"
Did you have a good Christmas, R?
I had an orgy for christmas.
Nonsense, I've seen your X-rays !
Hey, yes, you have, too, but I don't need a groin, honey...

<licks eyebrows>
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Sarah Ehrett
How old are the kiddies? You
must have some in their teens or older, no?
I have four grandchildren, dearie.
Egads you're older than dirt!
Seventy in the shade, hon.
--
alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

Hammer of Thor: February 2007.
Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005, April 2006, January 2007, August 2008.
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, Official owner
and trainer of Bucky Breeder, August 2008.
Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660
Official Overseer of Kooks & Trolls in 24hoursupport.helpdesk

Member of:
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Top Assholes on the Net List
Most hated usenetizens of all time List
Cog in the AUK Hate Machine List

Find me on Google Maps: 24°39'47.13"S, 134°4'20.18"E

Join me for dinner. I'm cooking pustular chameleon nerve with banana
vinaigrette accompanied with malignant shark carcinoma, cooked in a
bubbling pail brimming with small medley of scallion and cooked seaweed
in putrified slime, a side of red deer thyroid gland and a stein of
toadfish slobber.
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 06:53:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Egads you're older than dirt!
Either that, or he got busy at a young age. I'll drink a beer or two
in his honour.


--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Kadaitcha Man
2008-12-26 07:33:41 UTC
Permalink
PyrateJohn, ye bizarre infected mind, here comes those I have done good
Post by PyrateJohn
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Egads you're older than dirt!
Either that, or he got busy at a young age. I'll drink a beer or two
in his honour.
I wasn't known as Rick the Raging Root-Rat for nothing.
--
alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

Hammer of Thor: February 2007.
Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005, April 2006, January 2007, August 2008.
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, Official owner
and trainer of Bucky Breeder, August 2008.
Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660
Official Overseer of Kooks & Trolls in 24hoursupport.helpdesk

Member of:
Usenet Ruiner List
Top Assholes on the Net List
Most hated usenetizens of all time List
Cog in the AUK Hate Machine List

Find me on Google Maps: 24°39'47.13"S, 134°4'20.18"E

Join me for dinner. I'm cooking steamed jackal adenoid and llama bane
compote accentuated by gone off gnats and chive marinade accentuated by
baked used cat litter chips on top of gross cocker spaniel bowel and
cadaver gizzard preserve, arranged in a bubbling tureen chock full of
old chunks of rhubarb in melted cheese, a side of pelican lymph node and
a tumbler of rancid ginger juice.
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 16:46:54 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:53:59 -0800 (PST), PyrateJohn <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

:>On Dec 25, 10:58 pm, Sarah Ehrett <***@cox.net> wrote:
:>
:>>
:>> Egads you're older than dirt!
:>>
:>
:>Either that, or he got busy at a young age. I'll drink a beer or two
:>in his honour.

Don't get him started...


:>
:>--PirateJohn--
:>
:>http://www.PirateJohn.com
:>
:>And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com


----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Karen
2008-12-26 05:28:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Edmond Wollmann Memorial "Rubber Turkey"
========================================
Named in honor of the greatest of all Christmas Day kook-outs, this
award honors those who would rather spend public holidays frothing
continuously on Usenet than risk contact with human beings in real
life.
Idiot. I'm snowed/iced in and can't leave my condo campus. I spent
time with two neighbors today and talked awhile on the phone to a
friend...and emailed several friends. They were all human beings.

Lumpy is likely also snowed/iced in today and has to stay home, too.

Jose lives in sunny FL so he's been out and on the go with his loved
ones....hasn't been posting.

Did you happen to count how many times Pyrate/PirateJohn posted? He has
been known to spend 15 hours of a holiday drunkenly pekking out
scintillating chatter. Guess he didn't post today since you find
nothing wrong with his social activites.

How about Sarah? Did she show up with her usual dribble today?
Post by Kadaitcha Man
For the above screedbomb kookout, I hereby nominate Karen, whatever
the fuck her last name is,
"Kadaitcha"


for the auspicious alt.usenet.kooks Edmond
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Wollmann Memorial "Rubber Turkey".
Anyone for seconds?
You need to crank up that scrambler software. That's amusing. You
aren't.
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Oh, yeah, it's Boxing Day here in West Timor.
Whoopeee-dooo ! (Where is West Timor and why do you do Martial Arts
on Christmas Day?)
Lumpy
2008-12-26 05:48:44 UTC
Permalink
Whoopeee-dooo !  
That Whoop-tee-dooo.
R. Hickey
2008-12-26 15:55:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Karen
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Edmond Wollmann Memorial "Rubber Turkey"
========================================
Named in honor of the greatest of all Christmas Day kook-outs, this
award honors those who would rather spend public holidays frothing
continuously on Usenet than risk contact with human beings in real
life.
Idiot. I'm snowed/iced in and can't leave my condo campus.
Hmm, last time that happened it ended badly:

Our story begins in Wisconsin when Kow was just a calf. There was a
terribly harsh winter one year and kow and her sister were snowed into
their parents' old kow-barn house. After a few days of being trapped, she
killed and ate her sister for food.

A rescue team finally dug them out and saw what had happened. After they
got over their revulsion at what they saw (and the blood and guts part,
too) kow was committed to the asylum where she spent a good portion of
her life.

This is all from the paperwork someone got from the asylum many years ago
on the OJ group. It was said that kow escaped but that is untrue.

The truth is that even the staff and her fellow inmates detested her so
much that they orchestrated the events that allowed kow to "escape" and
for which she feels so clever for doing. It wasn't so much an escape as a
banishment!

The other psychos really hated her and her accordian which she learned to
play as some type of music-therapy. So they, in their possibly only
moment of clarity of their entire, psychotic lives, banded together and
petitioned the asylum staff to "leave the door open," so to speak.

It worked and kow galloped off to Washington state where she lived. She
discovered the computer and the Internet there and has since embarked on
a quest to become the single most reviled person on the entire Internet!
She has single-handedly become "persona non grata" all over the country,
if not the entire world. She is about the only person unwelcomed in every
corner of the Internet. What an accomplishment!

And so this will give her fodder for herself and her myriad troll
psuedonyms to write endlessly about over this holiday when other people
are visiting with friends and family. She will be up nonstop all night
rebutting this story. It's my gift to the Kow.

Mooooory Chrooooooostmas, kow!
Kali
2008-12-26 14:27:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Karen, ye swag-bellied that work for bread, thou hast not so much brain
Post by Karen
Post by Lumped
Post by PyrateJohn
She knows that we all have figured out that her
Gaspar and Dumpy nyms are imaginary, >>
Hey, fuckhead. It's Lumpy.
LOL.....this is hilarious to me on several levels but I won't elaborate.
Post by Lumped
That Kook group, whatever it is they do which is a goddamn mystery to
me,
Same here. I tried for a few days to figure out what they're doing
because I recognize 2-3 of the posters there from the old days on
other groups. I can't imagine why they hang there now or what the
group and the awards are about. They seem like a satellite to groups
where normal (most of them) gather and share info, etc. Gilmer
thinks it's just the GREATEST thing that he pushed them to give me
several awards and they for SURE are the END of me on Usenet. I
don't see or feel that at ALL. It doesn't affect me or change my M.O.
He gets all excited by the strangest things...
has people in it who can tell instantly who is here under an alias
Post by Lumped
and who isn't. I wasn't in this usenet place more than an hour and
one of them figured out where I was posting from and what my isp is
and my operating system and all that.
It's in the "headers" and lots of people know how to read headers. Real
computer experts know every single thing in them, but I only
know enough to figure out some basics and trip up a few people. Some
headers are nearly worthless to me and Ken/Sarah know how to totally
alter a header. I grudgingly admire that as I didn't think people
could do that. The headers of a post can't be denied, I believed. Guess
they can.
So if you 'really' think that I'm
Post by Lumped
Karen, go and ask one of those people... they actually have the
computer skills to see.
Claiming you and Jose Gaspar are Karen has kept him going a long time.
If that is taken away, his bag of tricks will be pretty empty. John
does whatever works for him. Facts and reality haven't much to do
with it. He admits he lives on another "plane", in an alternate
reality. Who can possibly rationalize with a pekkerhead like that?
TraceRoute to 76.121.89.4 [c-76-121-89-4.hsd1.wa.comcast.net]
Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
1 10 6 6 72.249.0.65 -
2 142 211 220 8.9.232.73 te-3-4.car1.dallas1.level3.net
3 7 6 12 4.68.19.8 ae-1-69.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
4 42 42 40 4.71.198.14 comcast-ip.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
5 41 42 43 68.86.85.137
pos-0-15-0-0-cr01.losangeles.ca.ibone.comcast.net
6 52 56 52 68.86.85.189
pos-0-9-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.net
7 70 67 64 68.86.85.161
pos-0-13-0-0-cr01.portland.or.ibone.comcast.net
8 69 68 68 68.86.90.218
te-9-3-ar02.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net
9 85 69 69 68.86.96.45
te-9-1-ur01.bremerton.wa.seattle.comcast.net
10 70 80 70 68.87.205.46
ge-4-1-0-ten01.bremerton.wa.seattle.comcast.net
11 81 80 90 76.121.89.4 c-76-121-89-4.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
Karen's -Posting-Host: 17021ca7dc4a399535705aa7f5d5817c <ooops>
Comcast office is in Bremerton (a mile up the road from me) Bainbridge
Island isn't that far from here as the crow flies, but
quite a distance by car.
Jose Gaspar in FL posts through Newsguy so his header is brief and
doesn't reveal much.
NNTP-Posting-Host: a785.newsdawg.com
One of his email addresses traces to Atlanta, GA and is "relayed"
after that. I'm not about to post the trace results here.
So quit your pussified loop about me being
Post by Lumped
her. It's obvious I'm not but if you want proof, then go find it.
He never lets the truth get in the way of a good "tale". Anybody
with 2 working brain cells can see that your style and mine is so
totally different and we are both consistent in how we write. I can
see some similarity in me and the FL gent, but you both write about
things I have no knowledge of so how could I be writing your posts? Gilmer
is saying that I am waaaay smarter than I really am, but I
doubt that is his intention (not that he's ANY judge of other
people's intelligence).
The
Post by Lumped
burden is not on me; you're merely stating and re-stating something
you say. No one else.
Sarah insists you and Jose are my nyms. John believe ALL that she
claims.
I got a private email from the one called
Post by Lumped
Gaspar who gave me a name that checked out to be a real person.
He is who he says he is and lives where he says he does and we both
know his real name. I've sent him several things in the mail and
they aren't returned. He photographs them and sends me the files. I've
known him on newsgroups and via email for more than a decade. He did a US
Search for me once many years back when he had 24 hrs. of
free service. I gave him a couple of names and then John W. Gilmer,
III He sent back lots of information he'd obtained but it was a
meaningless name to him at the time. I never expected he'd ever know
the bastard otherwise. Funny how things work ... ;')
That's
Post by Lumped
all I know or care.
He's not putting you on. Believe what he tells you and what you know
about him. He accidently emailed Gilmer once when he meant to send it
to Hoodoo. Gilmer is so STUPID that he thought it was some motorcycle
guy and deleted the email. Of course, he didn't remember the name ...
"Jose" and I share a lot of laughs about how DUMB Gilmer is.
The stupidity of this "who is a sock puppet"
Post by Lumped
thing, amongst the few of us who are the retards here, i.e., Ken
Ehrett, Gilmer, Karen, and marginally myself, is depressing.
And the ones hollering the loudest are the ones using the most of
them. Ken is playing the biggest sock puppet game of ALL with his
"Sarah" persona. They are especially tiresome because of the flat
attitude....aren't they EVER happy or nice to anybody?
We know,
Post by Lumped
amongst our retarded selves, that the fake names you ran last week or
whenever it was, were you.
He really outdid himself with creating new nyms and the whole crowd
suddenly landed and began attacking me....additional information, too.
Then they talked/replied to each other. His writing and focus on
KAREN is so transparent; yet he is convinced everybody is falling for
it all. I USED to think they were, but he has waaaay overplayed his
hand and it's the rare person who believes him at this point. He's
even been told to GET OUT of AUK. That's pretty extreme, I would say.
We know when Karen is running all those
Post by Lumped
aliases.
*moi* I don't need Team Karen members now that I'm posting as myself.
They are just lurking now. There definitely were various people
posting but not from their own computers.
We know when Ken is doing it. I don't do it because I have at
Post by Lumped
least a smear of self-esteem left.
But you keep changing your name. Your writing style is so apparant to
me that I always recognize you. But I don't open a lot of posts if I
don't know who is posting. I'm probably missing some things ..
Post by Lumped
So shut the fuck up about the sock puppet thing. Real sock puppets
are pretty interesting, if you've ever had the awareness to see one.
Only his OWN. I wonder what's in his head when he uses Karen (in
various forms) to post. He can't deny his goofy writing style or his
"attitude". I think he's doing that for Google Archives so if
somebody searches for my name they will assume I wrote all that crap
that he wrote forging my name, stealing my identity. He is a *thief*
in every area I can think of...
When
Post by Lumped
I first saw the antu group, I started to figure out a few of them,
but it took me awhile. You, Gilmer, are one of the most obtuse
individuals I have ever seen.
insensitive , stupid
b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or
expression
It's astonishing, this lack of spark you
Post by Lumped
have.
I've never run across anybody like him either. "obtuse" is accurate.
He's also got glaring psychotic symptoms. Read books on Sociopathy
and Narcissism. He's a classic Psychopath. I wonder if he knows it
and doesn't care or if he has no self-awareness of his problems. Scary
either way. Amazing that three wives got away from him with
their lives, tho I know he beat at least one of them pretty severely
on a regular basis.
Gilmer not only has no "spark"; he has no bottom and that is scary.
There is NOTHING he won't do if he thinks he can get away with it and
not go to jail. He has no boundaries....anything goes. No
conscience, no guilt, no remorse....and virtually no other human
feelings or emotions. He is very creepy underneath those masks he
wears and I doubt ANYbody knows the things he's done. There are lot
of dead people whose killer has never been found; yet they are at the
gas station, the check out lines at WalMart and driving next to us on
the streets and highways. Or working with others who have no clue.
Post by Lumped
In other words, you're an idiot.
Haw Haw....you are at least the tenth person that has come to that
conclusion and posted it on the internet. Several of them have MET
Gilmer in person and came to the conclusion he is an IDIOT.
There ought to be one those
Post by Lumped
kook awards for pussies who whine about sock puppet stuff.
I think it's an issue of some kind at AUK but don't know if they are
for it or against it. Some of the big wheels use many different
nyms...
Gilmer is the LAST person on all of Usenet to whine about sockpuppets
because he uses them prolifically himself. But never let it be said
that Gilmer is not a *hypocrite*.
Edmond Wollmann Memorial "Rubber Turkey"
========================================
Named in honor of the greatest of all Christmas Day kook-outs, this award
honors those who would rather spend public holidays frothing continuously on
Usenet than risk contact with human beings in real life.
For the above screedbomb kookout, I hereby nominate Karen, whatever the fuck
her last name is, for the auspicious alt.usenet.kooks Edmond Wollmann
Memorial "Rubber Turkey".
Anyone for seconds?
I second and raise your nomination to include the entire hairball of
whiners and gossipers, alt.nuke.the.usa

She's a stalker and they are Rubber Turkey kooky.
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Oh, yeah, it's Boxing Day here in West Timor.
Yay!
--
Kali
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 16:46:30 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:27:52 -0500, Kali <***@happy.joy> wrote:

:>> Edmond Wollmann Memorial "Rubber Turkey"
:>> ========================================
:>> Named in honor of the greatest of all Christmas Day kook-outs, this award
:>> honors those who would rather spend public holidays frothing continuously on
:>> Usenet than risk contact with human beings in real life.
:>>
:>> For the above screedbomb kookout, I hereby nominate Karen, whatever the fuck
:>> her last name is, for the auspicious alt.usenet.kooks Edmond Wollmann
:>> Memorial "Rubber Turkey".
:>>
:>> Anyone for seconds?
:>
:>I second and raise your nomination to include the entire hairball of
:>whiners and gossipers, alt.nuke.the.usa

Seconded!

:>She's a stalker and they are Rubber Turkey kooky.
:>
:>> Oh, yeah, it's Boxing Day here in West Timor.
:>
:>Yay!

Wa, finally a decent meal?

:>--
:>Kali


----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
R. Hickey
2008-12-26 15:48:25 UTC
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Post by Kadaitcha Man
Karen, ye swag-bellied that work for bread, thou hast not so much
Post by Karen
Post by Lumped
Post by PyrateJohn
She knows that we all have figured out that her
Gaspar and Dumpy nyms are imaginary, >>
Hey, fuckhead. It's Lumpy.
LOL.....this is hilarious to me on several levels but I won't
elaborate.
Post by Lumped
That Kook group, whatever it is they do which is a goddamn mystery
to me,
Same here. I tried for a few days to figure out what they're doing
because I recognize 2-3 of the posters there from the old days on
other groups. I can't imagine why they hang there now or what the
group and the awards are about. They seem like a satellite to groups
where normal (most of them) gather and share info, etc. Gilmer
thinks it's just the GREATEST thing that he pushed them to give me
several awards and they for SURE are the END of me on Usenet. I
don't see or feel that at ALL. It doesn't affect me or change my M.O.
He gets all excited by the strangest things...
has people in it who can tell instantly who is here under an alias
Post by Lumped
and who isn't. I wasn't in this usenet place more than an hour and
one of them figured out where I was posting from and what my isp is
and my operating system and all that.
It's in the "headers" and lots of people know how to read headers.
Real computer experts know every single thing in them, but I only
know enough to figure out some basics and trip up a few people. Some
headers are nearly worthless to me and Ken/Sarah know how to totally
alter a header. I grudgingly admire that as I didn't think people
could do that. The headers of a post can't be denied, I believed.
Guess they can.
So if you 'really' think that I'm
Post by Lumped
Karen, go and ask one of those people... they actually have the
computer skills to see.
Claiming you and Jose Gaspar are Karen has kept him going a long
time. If that is taken away, his bag of tricks will be pretty empty.
John does whatever works for him. Facts and reality haven't much to
do with it. He admits he lives on another "plane", in an alternate
reality. Who can possibly rationalize with a pekkerhead like that?
TraceRoute to 76.121.89.4 [c-76-121-89-4.hsd1.wa.comcast.net]
Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
1 10 6 6 72.249.0.65 -
2 142 211 220 8.9.232.73 te-3-4.car1.dallas1.level3.net
3 7 6 12 4.68.19.8 ae-1-69.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
4 42 42 40 4.71.198.14 comcast-ip.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
5 41 42 43 68.86.85.137
pos-0-15-0-0-cr01.losangeles.ca.ibone.comcast.net
6 52 56 52 68.86.85.189
pos-0-9-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.net
7 70 67 64 68.86.85.161
pos-0-13-0-0-cr01.portland.or.ibone.comcast.net
8 69 68 68 68.86.90.218
te-9-3-ar02.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net
9 85 69 69 68.86.96.45
te-9-1-ur01.bremerton.wa.seattle.comcast.net
10 70 80 70 68.87.205.46
ge-4-1-0-ten01.bremerton.wa.seattle.comcast.net
11 81 80 90 76.121.89.4 c-76-121-89-4.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
Karen's -Posting-Host: 17021ca7dc4a399535705aa7f5d5817c <ooops>
Comcast office is in Bremerton (a mile up the road from me)
Bainbridge Island isn't that far from here as the crow flies, but
quite a distance by car.
Jose Gaspar in FL posts through Newsguy so his header is brief and
doesn't reveal much.
NNTP-Posting-Host: a785.newsdawg.com
One of his email addresses traces to Atlanta, GA and is "relayed"
after that. I'm not about to post the trace results here.
So quit your pussified loop about me being
Post by Lumped
her. It's obvious I'm not but if you want proof, then go find it.
He never lets the truth get in the way of a good "tale". Anybody
with 2 working brain cells can see that your style and mine is so
totally different and we are both consistent in how we write. I can
see some similarity in me and the FL gent, but you both write about
things I have no knowledge of so how could I be writing your posts?
Gilmer is saying that I am waaaay smarter than I really am, but I
doubt that is his intention (not that he's ANY judge of other
people's intelligence).
The
Post by Lumped
burden is not on me; you're merely stating and re-stating something
you say. No one else.
Sarah insists you and Jose are my nyms. John believe ALL that she
claims.
I got a private email from the one called
Post by Lumped
Gaspar who gave me a name that checked out to be a real person.
He is who he says he is and lives where he says he does and we both
know his real name. I've sent him several things in the mail and
they aren't returned. He photographs them and sends me the files.
I've known him on newsgroups and via email for more than a decade. He
did a US Search for me once many years back when he had 24 hrs. of
free service. I gave him a couple of names and then John W. Gilmer,
III He sent back lots of information he'd obtained but it was a
meaningless name to him at the time. I never expected he'd ever know
the bastard otherwise. Funny how things work ... ;')
That's
Post by Lumped
all I know or care.
He's not putting you on. Believe what he tells you and what you know
about him. He accidently emailed Gilmer once when he meant to send
it to Hoodoo. Gilmer is so STUPID that he thought it was some
motorcycle guy and deleted the email. Of course, he didn't remember
the name ... "Jose" and I share a lot of laughs about how DUMB Gilmer
is.
The stupidity of this "who is a sock puppet"
Post by Lumped
thing, amongst the few of us who are the retards here, i.e., Ken
Ehrett, Gilmer, Karen, and marginally myself, is depressing.
And the ones hollering the loudest are the ones using the most of
them. Ken is playing the biggest sock puppet game of ALL with his
"Sarah" persona. They are especially tiresome because of the flat
attitude....aren't they EVER happy or nice to anybody?
We know,
Post by Lumped
amongst our retarded selves, that the fake names you ran last week
or whenever it was, were you.
He really outdid himself with creating new nyms and the whole crowd
suddenly landed and began attacking me....additional information,
too. Then they talked/replied to each other. His writing and focus
on KAREN is so transparent; yet he is convinced everybody is falling
for it all. I USED to think they were, but he has waaaay overplayed
his hand and it's the rare person who believes him at this point.
He's even been told to GET OUT of AUK. That's pretty extreme, I
would say.
We know when Karen is running all those
Post by Lumped
aliases.
*moi* I don't need Team Karen members now that I'm posting as
myself. They are just lurking now. There definitely were various
people posting but not from their own computers.
We know when Ken is doing it. I don't do it because I have at
Post by Lumped
least a smear of self-esteem left.
But you keep changing your name. Your writing style is so apparant
to me that I always recognize you. But I don't open a lot of posts
if I don't know who is posting. I'm probably missing some things ..
Post by Lumped
So shut the fuck up about the sock puppet thing. Real sock puppets
are pretty interesting, if you've ever had the awareness to see one.
Only his OWN. I wonder what's in his head when he uses Karen (in
various forms) to post. He can't deny his goofy writing style or his
"attitude". I think he's doing that for Google Archives so if
somebody searches for my name they will assume I wrote all that crap
that he wrote forging my name, stealing my identity. He is a *thief*
in every area I can think of...
When
Post by Lumped
I first saw the antu group, I started to figure out a few of them,
but it took me awhile. You, Gilmer, are one of the most obtuse
individuals I have ever seen.
insensitive , stupid
b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or
expression
It's astonishing, this lack of spark you
Post by Lumped
have.
I've never run across anybody like him either. "obtuse" is accurate.
He's also got glaring psychotic symptoms. Read books on Sociopathy
and Narcissism. He's a classic Psychopath. I wonder if he knows it
and doesn't care or if he has no self-awareness of his problems.
Scary either way. Amazing that three wives got away from him with
their lives, tho I know he beat at least one of them pretty severely
on a regular basis.
Gilmer not only has no "spark"; he has no bottom and that is scary.
There is NOTHING he won't do if he thinks he can get away with it and
not go to jail. He has no boundaries....anything goes. No
conscience, no guilt, no remorse....and virtually no other human
feelings or emotions. He is very creepy underneath those masks he
wears and I doubt ANYbody knows the things he's done. There are lot
of dead people whose killer has never been found; yet they are at the
gas station, the check out lines at WalMart and driving next to us on
the streets and highways. Or working with others who have no clue.
Post by Lumped
In other words, you're an idiot.
Haw Haw....you are at least the tenth person that has come to that
conclusion and posted it on the internet. Several of them have MET
Gilmer in person and came to the conclusion he is an IDIOT.
There ought to be one those
Post by Lumped
kook awards for pussies who whine about sock puppet stuff.
I think it's an issue of some kind at AUK but don't know if they are
for it or against it. Some of the big wheels use many different
nyms...
Gilmer is the LAST person on all of Usenet to whine about sockpuppets
because he uses them prolifically himself. But never let it be said
that Gilmer is not a *hypocrite*.
Edmond Wollmann Memorial "Rubber Turkey"
========================================
Named in honor of the greatest of all Christmas Day kook-outs, this
award honors those who would rather spend public holidays frothing
continuously on Usenet than risk contact with human beings in real
life.
For the above screedbomb kookout, I hereby nominate Karen, whatever
the fuck her last name is, for the auspicious alt.usenet.kooks Edmond
Wollmann Memorial "Rubber Turkey".
Anyone for seconds?
Her name is Andersen and I second your well-timed motion.
Kadaitcha Man
2008-12-27 02:52:22 UTC
Permalink
R. Hickey, ye pot-bellied mind diseas'd minion, I was seeking for a fool
Post by R. Hickey
Her name is Andersen and I second your well-timed motion.
My motions aren't always well-timed; I often shit my pants at the most
inopportune moments.
--
alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

Hammer of Thor: February 2007.
Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005, April 2006, January 2007, August 2008.
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and trainer of Bucky Breeder, August 2008.
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Join me for dinner. I'm cooking injured cassowary gut and cockroach
abscess compote and barbequed tripe with steamed caterpillar pancreas
with corn sauce with defeated penis aside soured caterpillar skin,
dished up in a steaming pail stuffed with medium to well done squash,
twitching pieces of bologna, congealed blood, a side of green turtle
spleen and a keg of skunk piss.
Karen
2008-12-27 03:04:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kadaitcha Man
R. Hickey, ye pot-bellied mind diseas'd minion, I was seeking for a
Post by R. Hickey
Her name is Andersen and I second your well-timed motion.
My motions aren't always well-timed; I often shit my pants at the most
inopportune moments.
And we smell it in your writing, which often stinks. Are you saying
your urges and the events are occuring too close together?

Don't pay any attention to goofy Hickey. He's a recluse and flunked 4
years of "counseling" for his many psychological problems.

Trust me. My name is NOT Andersen and my nym is not "SnooShoe".
Kadaitcha Man
2008-12-27 08:28:43 UTC
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Karen, ye odious filth as thou art, away, you three inch fool, ye
Post by Karen
Post by Kadaitcha Man
R. Hickey, ye pot-bellied mind diseas'd minion, I was seeking for a
Post by R. Hickey
Her name is Andersen and I second your well-timed motion.
My motions aren't always well-timed; I often shit my pants at the
most inopportune moments.
And we smell it in your writing, which often stinks. Are you saying
your urges and the events are occuring too close together?
Don't pay any attention to goofy Hickey. He's a recluse and flunked 4
years of "counseling" for his many psychological problems.
Trust me<BITCHSLAP>
I would not trust you as far as I could throw a rail locomotive.
--
alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

Hammer of Thor: February 2007.
Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005, April 2006, January 2007, August 2008.
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, Official owner
and trainer of Bucky Breeder, August 2008.
Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660
Official Overseer of Kooks & Trolls in 24hoursupport.helpdesk

Member of:
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Find me on Google Maps: 24°39'47.13"S, 134°4'20.18"E

Join me for dinner. I'm cooking ailing rhinoceros buttock with banana
vinegar smothered in menacing live rat embryos and praying mantis
puddings vinaigrette, arranged in a circulating bowl overflowing with
rare cooked parsnip, twitching pieces of crab and whole kidney, artery
and vaginal yeast with squares of unidentified wriggly things sauce, a
side of ringtail monkey uterus and a beaker of pap smear scrapings.
Jose Gaspar
2008-12-27 14:56:55 UTC
Permalink
In article <_Wg5l.235651$***@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Karen
says...
Post by Karen
Post by Kadaitcha Man
R. Hickey, ye pot-bellied mind diseas'd minion, I was seeking for a
Post by R. Hickey
Her name is Andersen and I second your well-timed motion.
My motions aren't always well-timed; I often shit my pants at the most
inopportune moments.
And we smell it in your writing, which often stinks. Are you saying
your urges and the events are occuring too close together?
Don't pay any attention to goofy Hickey. He's a recluse and flunked 4
years of "counseling" for his many psychological problems.
Trust me. My name is NOT Andersen and my nym is not "SnooShoe".
Strange, isn't it? These colon cleanse types seem to gravitate to one
another...



I had the nicest Christmas I've ever had. It was a little cloudy Christmas day
but a warm, breezy, beautiful day. We ate outside. The day started off with
the cooing of the doves and then progressed to the noisy squawking of the
sandhill cranes off in the distance near the pond. It's fun to see the cranes
come in for a landing. In the bird world they are the B-52 bomber.

The Princess got me a GPS. When I came home late last night, I realized how
useless it was unless one used it to travel on major roads. I don't think the
folks living at the house where the GPS told me to go would have appreciated me
walking in the front door either. But it is programmed for Europe, so I'll make
good use of it when we go over next year. I don't know if it could detect those
roads we were on in France though; WE could barely detect the roads we were on!
Fortunately we didn't come across farm machinery on those one lane roads, but
they certainly were scenic, including the little medieval villages that we came
upon with maybe a dozen homes total... There's something wonderful about
getting lost in such places - unless you run out of gasoline...

Were you snowed in? Personally, I can't imagine that being all that bad.
Sounds pretty cozy, warming up to the fire or heater.
Karen
2008-12-27 15:32:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kali
In article
says...
Post by Karen
Post by Kadaitcha Man
R. Hickey, ye pot-bellied mind diseas'd minion, I was seeking for a
Post by R. Hickey
Her name is Andersen and I second your well-timed motion.
My motions aren't always well-timed; I often shit my pants at the
most inopportune moments.
And we smell it in your writing, which often stinks. Are you saying
your urges and the events are occuring too close together?
Don't pay any attention to goofy Hickey. He's a recluse and flunked
4 years of "counseling" for his many psychological problems.
Trust me. My name is NOT Andersen and my nym is not "SnooShoe".
Strange, isn't it? These colon cleanse types seem to gravitate to one
another...
They are all full of shit, that's for sure. <gag>
Post by Kali
I had the nicest Christmas I've ever had.
That's wonderful to hear and I'm glad to see you back....a voice of
sanity for a change. Lumpy had to bail out. He can only suffer fools
just so long....or boredom.

It was a little cloudy
Post by Kali
Christmas day but a warm, breezy, beautiful day. We ate outside.
The day started off with the cooing of the doves and then progressed
to the noisy squawking of the sandhill cranes off in the distance
near the pond. It's fun to see the cranes come in for a landing. In
the bird world they are the B-52 bomber.
The Princess got me a GPS. When I came home late last night, I
realized how useless it was unless one used it to travel on major
roads. I don't think the folks living at the house where the GPS
told me to go would have appreciated me walking in the front door
either. But it is programmed for Europe, so I'll make good use of it
when we go over next year. I don't know if it could detect those
roads we were on in France though; WE could barely detect the roads
we were on! Fortunately we didn't come across farm machinery on those
one lane roads, but they certainly were scenic, including the little
medieval villages that we came upon with maybe a dozen homes total...
There's something wonderful about getting lost in such places -
unless you run out of gasoline...
You'll make SURE you are filled up (and maybe even carry a petrol can)
before you set off on country roads like that next time. The GPS surely
will be of some help over there.
Post by Kali
Were you snowed in?
Since last Saturday. I finally got out yesterday. Not exactly snowed
in but our drive is so steep with a rather sharp turn at the top and I
watched too many cars/vehicles that had to make several tries before
they finally got up here and the ones that didn't gave up and left their
cars down on the street and managed to walk up. I just didn't want to
risk that and preferred to leave my SUV in its cover parking spot. I
didn't have any reason to go out except for a little "cabin fever".

Personally, I can't imagine that being all that
Post by Kali
bad.
It wasn't as long as I had electricity and plenty of food for the
animals and birds. I've always got stuff in the fridge and freezer so
as long as the microwave and stove worked, I was fine. I had an extra
gallon of milk that I put out on the patio as it was colder there than
in the fridge. I walked out into the woods every day to feed the coons
and that was more challenging every time. I have boots and didn't fall,
but it was slow-going and tiring. Way different than when I do it in
summer...

We are all fed up with the snow and glad it is melting fast now. It was
pretty for a couple of days but makes life very inconvient and few
people got their Christmas presents delivered so they'll be opening them
on Monday or Tuesday now. Bummer. I hardly got any cards for several
days but Christmas Eve day my regular carrier left a big stack. I think
more came yesterday but delivery was late so I'll check the box this
morning. Many people were stuck at the airport waiting for a flight.
What a way spend Christmas...in a damn airport with a lot of
disagreeable people. I was glad I didn't have a lot planned that
didn't happen. No disappointments.
Post by Kali
Sounds pretty cozy, warming up to the fire or heater.
That gets old after the third day when you feel somewhat trapped. As
you can see, I spent way too much time at the computer but I was
listening to Christmas music here and watching the bird/animal
activities in front of me...and the beautiful snow scenery. Plus my
fireplace is right next to me.

When I lived in WI we were never snowbound and could come and go as we
wanted all winter, including Christmas. We rarely had ice. Out here
there is little snow removal equipment and nobody seems to know how to
operate what there is. Plus, it is very hilly and we don't use
salt...not much sand either. Usually snow here (if we get any at all)
melts before it needs to be dealt with. But as long as the power stays
on, life at home is fine...

If you had the best Christmas ever.....better than when you were a
kid....that's saying a lot. GOOD for you!

Dare I ask what you gave the princess for Christmas? ;')
Puma
2008-12-27 15:35:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Karen
Trust me.
That would count as the most stupid thing anybody could ever do. You're a
screeching lunatic -- out on furlow.
Post by Karen
My name is NOT Andersen and my nym is not "SnooShoe".
I did that because I knew the "-sen" instead of "-son" spelling would piss
you off. And whoever wrote SnooShoe mispelled SnoShoe with one 'O'. Big
deal, but you sure danced to our tune(s)!!!

Fool.
R. Hickey
2008-12-26 15:44:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by PyrateJohn
She did a similar thing to a gentleman in New Orleans,
who may or may
Post by PyrateJohn
not be one of the other people posting here. The story
goes that
Post by PyrateJohn
Anderson drove, uninvited and without warning, from
Bremerton, WA to
Post by PyrateJohn
New Orleans, just to see this guy.
Yeah, I heard it was nuts and not just a little scary.
Post by PyrateJohn
He says that she was speaking in
tongues like she had multiple personalities (witness
the various
Post by PyrateJohn
personalities of her socks) and she scared him to
death.

Not "in tongues" in the religious way, but more like two,
distinct personalities arguing and conversing.
Post by PyrateJohn
I am not
sure what transpired after that, if he threw her out or
what, but she
Post by PyrateJohn
has been stalking him since then, too.
Again, I heard that she refused to leave even after hints
had been not-so-subtlely dropped for over 2 hours! She
just ambled toward the door talking and arguing with
herself.

Then she went outside and produced A CAT (!!!) which had
been left in the car during this whole, ugly episode.

She proceeded to talk to the cat and beat him when he
wouldn't do as she commanded. If the ASPCA had been near,
she woulda been in trouble.

All-in-all, sounds completely "round the bend" to me.
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 16:32:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by PyrateJohn
 He says that she was speaking in
tongues like she had multiple personalities (witness
the various
personalities of her socks) and she scared him to
death.
Not "in tongues" in the religious way, but more like two,
distinct personalities arguing and conversing.
Sort of like the kind of personality that could successfully juggle
personalities like the Gaspar and Lumpy sock puppets, right? ;)
Post by PyrateJohn
Then she went outside and produced A CAT (!!!) which had
been left in the car during this whole, ugly episode.
She proceeded to talk to the cat and beat him when he
wouldn't do as she commanded. If the ASPCA had been near,
she woulda been in trouble.
Anderson made a comment that we named one of the cats after her. What
she doesn't seem to understand is that the cat is officially named
Coyote (as in "coyote ugly") but we affectionately call her "Skanky."
She got that nickname because she (the cat, not Anderson) was
constantly going into heat, a condition that we put to rest earlier
this year.
Post by PyrateJohn
All-in-all, sounds completely "round the bend" to me.
Sounds "round the bend" to everyone that has ever come into contact
with Old Odd Anderson.
Puma
2008-12-26 22:21:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by PyrateJohn
Post by PyrateJohn
 He says that she was speaking in
tongues like she had multiple personalities (witness
the various
personalities of her socks) and she scared him to
death.
Not "in tongues" in the religious way, but more like two,
distinct personalities arguing and conversing.
Sort of like the kind of personality that could successfully juggle
personalities like the Gaspar and Lumpy sock puppets, right? ;)
Absolutely! It was a seamless act. Better than some ventriloquists!
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 22:44:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Puma
Post by PyrateJohn
Sort of like the kind of personality that could successfully juggle
personalities like the Gaspar and Lumpy sock puppets, right? ;)
Absolutely! It was a seamless act. Better than some ventriloquists!
Anderson is bony fido (sic), absolutely certifiably crazy, in my book.
Karen
2008-12-27 01:28:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by PyrateJohn
She did a similar thing to a gentleman in New Orleans, who may or may
not be one of the other people posting here. The story goes that
Anderson drove, uninvited and without warning, from Bremerton, WA to
New Orleans, just to see this guy.
Yeah, I heard he was nuts and not just a little scary.
Post by PyrateJohn
He says that she was speaking in
tongues like she had multiple personalities (witness the various
personalities of her socks) and she scared him to death.
Not "in tongues" in the religious way, but more like two,
distinct personalities arguing and conversing.
Oh puh-leeze. When did you witness and determine all this? While you
were talking on the phone on FIVE occasions? You are so painfully
anti-social that you didn't seem to be aware I was trying to "converse"
with YOU. Were you so overcome by your bad breath that you couldn't
speak? You should be ashamed of the way you behaved. It disgusted me
but I couldn't believe you wouldn't eventually settle down and behave
like a civilized person. Wrong. You are a recluse who has no social
skills at all, especially with women. I was only trying to be FRIENDLY
and nice to you; not rape or kidnap you. But you felt *guilty* for your
previous behavior with me and figured you deserved an ass-kicking or
worse and that's why I was there. Right?
Post by PyrateJohn
I am not
sure what transpired after that, if he threw her out or what, but she
has been stalking him since then, too.
Again, I heard that she refused to leave even after hints
had been not-so-subtlely dropped for over 2 hours!
Shall I talk to YOU here, Hickey, or about that 3rd person you are now
using? Sheesh You are posting as R. Hickey here, idiot. You are such
a hopeless wussy boy that you can only "hint" and "beat around the bush"
in actual contact with people....except on the internet where you can
pretend to be a tough guy. Who in the world could guess what a nutcase
like YOU are "hinting" at anyway? You made a lame excuse that you had
to go to some nearly blind guy's house to work on his computer. You out
AFTER dark, mind you. I knew that was just a made-up-on-the-spot excuse
and you weren't going anywhere. Since there was no coming back
"tomorrow", I felt you could act civil to me for a short while and give
me some answers (I can't even remember now what they were about).
Instead of acting rational and I would have left, you "beat around the
bush" and were whispering on the phone on FIVE occasions while I waited
for you to get back to me. Should I have just walked out the door while
you were chatting on the phone? In looking back, I guess I should have,
but I still didn't realize you are a major NUTCASE in reality. You do
recall telling me that you went for counseling for FOUR years but she
"couldn't straighten you out"?

She
just ambled toward the door talking and arguing with
herself.
That's a new one; last I heard you had me standing by the door declaring
that you were the "MAN I LOVED". Gilmer claims that you "excused
yourself and took off in the car and left me in the house". That you
didn't return till the next morning when you were sure I was gone. Are
you aware that all normal people find that beyond bizarre and NOBODY
believes it???? Which makes everything else you two are floating
suspect.
Then she went outside and produced A CAT (!!!) which had
been left in the car during this whole, ugly episode.
You knew about Cattail and even wrote him an email..!! You didn't seem
surprised at the time that he was with me. He went everywhere with me.
We were in Cleveland, Ohio for 4-5 days and many of my friends there got
to see him. I ASSUMED that YOU would enjoy actually seeing him, too.
Of course, you didn't even have the decency to reach out and pet him
when I nearly put him in your lap. How RUDE you were.

And before I "produced" the cat, I had finally decided to leave while
you were on the phone the 5th time and I saw what I saw back at the
bedroom door. I turned around at the car to look back at your house,
only to see you sitting in the shadows in the open door just staring at
me. Creepy. Not even the decency to say or wave "good-bye". When I
left, it's too bad I didn't pick up that rose I brought you and come
back to dump the water in your lap and smash the bottle over your head.
She proceeded to talk to the cat and beat him when he
wouldn't do as she commanded.
I was talking to YOU, but you goofy cat was sitting on the steps behind
you and staring at Cattail. That distressed him as both you and Toonces
were giving off negative vibes to him (as you did with me) and he
started fairly yowling. I had to give him a little swat to distract him
when he wouldn't pay attention to me telling him to stop the noise. You
notice he stopped his yowling then. I should have slapped your goofy
cat instead.

If the ASPCA had been near,
she woulda been in trouble.
If the ASPCA had been near when you abandoned your cat in a flood as you
ran off to evacuate yourself YOU woulda been in trouble. To hell with
the faithful cat, eh? Put her food and litter on the washing machine
and save your own sorry ass. Oh, that's right....the brother you were
sponging off of up in BR has FIVE cats so you couldn't save Toonces but
left her home to die. Fortunately, there was no flooding after all so
she was alive when you came rolling back in.
All-in-all, sounds completely "round the bend" to me.
Your opinion of what is "normal" just doesn't count in the grand scheme
of things. Normal people don't put their daughter in a mental
institution because they will only associate with members of another
race.

Normal people don't later project that incident onto a former friend and
make a false claim that lives to this day.

Normal people don't seek a female therapist who looks like Julia Roberts
and then see her for FOUR years while having juvenile fantasies about
"her and me". No wonder she couldn't "straighten you out" -- she was
part of your PROBLEM.

Normal people don't have a nude photo of Sophia Loren taped to their
computer screen while writing cybersex emails to a woman who merely told
you she resembled Sophia Loren when you claimed to look like Tony
Orlando.

Shall I go on with more examples of why you can never claim to be a
"normal" person nor is anything you claim about me to be believed?

Tell us more about your knowledge of "farm animals"....especially the
female ones.
PyrateJohn
2008-12-27 02:13:02 UTC
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Post by Karen
Normal people don't have a nude photo of Sophia Loren taped to their
computer screen while writing cybersex emails to a woman who merely told
you she resembled Sophia Loren when you claimed to look like Tony
Orlando.
Oh course Karen, you were right there writing those cybersex emails
right back to him.

Pot, kettle, black. We have all seen your pink vibrator. And most of
us would just as soon not know what goes on behind closed doors. Or
near keyboards, for that matter.

Why, or why, do you go on like this? You said that you had him kill
filed - this would have been a graceful time for you to just drift
away and leave everyone alone.


--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-27 03:28:28 UTC
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:28:20 GMT, "Karen" <***@nospam.wa> wrote:


:>Shall I talk to YOU here, Hickey, or about that 3rd person you are now
:>using?

Stupid Sweathog didn't last 12 hours.
Message-ID: <aR75l.96915$***@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>

So here's one Giant *PLONK* to this entire cesspool. Sarah/Ken,
PirateJohn and Robert Hickey (socking as Puma): may you experience
every agony that is known to man in the New Year.

Sincerely,
Karen Anderson


----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
PyrateJohn
2008-12-27 05:16:20 UTC
Permalink
So here's one Giant *PLONK* to this entire cesspool.  Sarah/Ken,
PirateJohn and Robert Hickey (socking as Puma):  may you experience
every agony that is known to man in the New Year.
Sincerely,
Karen Anderson
Every agony? Such as not having Old Odd Anderson to kick around any
more?

Contrast interestingly with all of the other, more positive season's
greetings going around.

An interesting post, especially considering that "it" was spoofing so
as to look like Sarah. Which it obviously wasn't.

What say you, Keepers of the Kooks, and Assorted Victims of Karen
Anderson. A cry for help? Especially from a woman who was begging
and pleading for us to believe that you Lumpy sock was real?
Jose Gaspar
2008-12-27 14:05:34 UTC
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In article <cefd31a3-3756-45e6-bd3d-***@b1g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
PyrateJohn says...
Post by PyrateJohn
What say you, Keepers of the Kooks, and Assorted Victims of Karen
Anderson. A cry for help? Especially from a woman who was begging
and pleading for us to believe that you Lumpy sock was real?
Well, John Gilmer, at least you're consistent. But don't expect ordinary folks
to understand your three-year-old childish babble...

Did 'Johnny Cash' show up for Christmas dinner?



BWAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

Did you pair your turkey with the proper rot-gut beer?

BWAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

The bad news about being an obese, ignorant, Kentucky hillbilly like you is that
you can't sit close enough to the table to eat unless you possess knuckle
dragging arms... heh...
The good news about being an obese, ignorant, Kentucky hillbilly like you is
that you can sit separate from the table and plop your plate on that enormous
beer gut of yours...
And, don't worry what you dribble down your shirt... no one pays much attention
to those things in South Texas...

BWAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

You have no idea how envious we all are that you have exclusive access to live
Texas music at Oleander Acres...



Write some more gibberish, John Boy... we know you're an accomplished author...

BWAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

Now, don't forget to patch the holes in that old bus you're living in before the
rains come...

BWAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
Karen
2008-12-27 16:03:55 UTC
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Post by Jose Gaspar
Did 'Johnny Cash' show up for Christmas dinner?
Haaahaha...
Post by Jose Gaspar
http://youtu.be/HAS3-EkVq9E
That is DREADFUL. After the Indians showed up I couldn't watch anymore.
I am not into *amateur* entertainment, especially when they are neither
funny nor talented.
Post by Jose Gaspar
BWAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
Did you pair your turkey with the proper rot-gut beer?
Are you kidding? He can't "cook" anything when it comes to food.
Post by Jose Gaspar
The bad news about being an obese, ignorant, Kentucky hillbilly like
you is that you can't sit close enough to the table to eat unless you
possess knuckle dragging arms... heh...
The good news about being an obese, ignorant, Kentucky hillbilly like
you is that you can sit separate from the table and plop your plate
on that enormous beer gut of yours...
And, don't worry what you dribble down your shirt... no one pays
much attention to those things in South Texas...
BWAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
You have no idea how envious we all are that you have exclusive
access to live Texas music at Oleander Acres...
Check out "RV parks in McAllen, TX". There are 10 of them all crowded
into a small area. He denies being at Oleander but how different can
any of them be? They are filled with white trash and the park has no
restrictions on what kind of vehicle wants to squat there. I stayed in
places that had restrictions and wouldn't allow a behemoth eyesore like
"the gilmers" roll around in past their gate. No Body cares where they
hang out ...
Post by Jose Gaspar
http://youtu.be/bmfVJfcTLGw
HAHAHA.....the real entertainment in that mess is the old dude sitting
back by the post, nodding off. He came to when people started clapping.
At the end, he held up something like a mandolin. I think he intended
to play along but couldn't stay awake. Real high class folks there...
Post by Jose Gaspar
Write some more gibberish, John Boy... we know you're an
accomplished author...
Fiction exclusively -- and don't encourage him!!
Post by Jose Gaspar
BWAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
Now, don't forget to patch the holes in that old bus you're living in
before the rains come...
They'll be getting a new one soon....(I'm not holding my breathE, tho;)
Puma
2008-12-27 15:26:43 UTC
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"Karen" <***@nospam.wa> wrote in news:Uwf5l.235490$***@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

I could go and rebutt this nonsense part by part, but I won't bother to do it
for the 10th time.

You came uninvited (I didn't buy you a plane ticket so don't even try that
bullshit...) and entered my home. You wouldn't leave when I told you I had to
go somewhere. I did. Just not the guy I said I was speaking with.

The computer of a friend was a "smokescreen" because I was actually on the
phone with a REAL woman and didn't want to put you into a stampede realizing
this was the case. We dated for almost 10 years -- she died in June of 2008.

You wouldn't leave. The cat was in the car and you only "broke him out" after
you finally -- FINALLY!!! -- went outside. Then you whined to him about
seeing the "Man you loved" which is so fucking creepy it has GOT to be some
sort of mental illness. We had been online for a few months. Love is not a
consequence. And I did leave -- to go see her. I didn't stay out all night so
Mr. Gilmer must have misunderstood that part.

My cat could do any goddamn thing she wanted. You were at OUR house and your
fleabag cat got a beating because of it. You're a nut, Kow.

You are a first class, 100% psychotic old lunatic who should NEVER have been
released from the mental asylum! Their work is far from done.

Go away and wait until someone mentions you again and you can do a days-long
posting marathon saying the same stuff over and over and over like you always
do using any number of fake aliases. Be gone.
Karen
2008-12-26 01:06:22 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
But she ignored that one so I had to write another one that she
couldn't resist answering. And when she answered it I was impressed
with her normalcy.
Greg, why can YOU see that right away when others can't after many
years? Is it because they've told so many lies about me that they now
believe them themselves? Or they never bothered to listen to the truth
early on and now nothing makes sense, so........"she has to be insane".

It now appears that there a couple of people
Post by Gregory Hall
posting and attempting to make her appear to be some sort of kooky
woman with mental issues and they do a good job of it on the surface
and had me almost sucked in but I sure didn't see any indication of
real kookery in her reply.
That's why I replied to you. Pay attention to what I write and not what
my enemies write about me.

I don't know her at all but from her
Post by Gregory Hall
answers it would appear to me that she is perhaps a little
old-fashioned
More than I can explain to anyone younger than me and so proud of it
that it brings tears to my eyes. I am soooooo glad I am who I am and
how I was raised and during BETTER times than these.....in a good place,
too.
Post by Gregory Hall
and probably raised Catholic
Absolutely!! But didn't get to go to Catholic School, tho. I'll never
know if that is good or bad. I feel I got a very good education from my
"country schools" and plenty of attention from my teachers. Catholicism
ruled my daily life and had a big part in who I am now, tho I no longer
go to Church in recent years...sometimes I wish to be inspired to try
again. My Mother was a strict Catholic and so was everyone in her
extended family ... a couple of priests and several nuns. She nearly
became a nun herself. My Father was too good a man for her to pass up.
He converted to Catholicism (turned Catholic) for her. Good people.
I'm lucky to be their only child.

but that sure doesn't make
Post by Gregory Hall
her a kook or a mental case.
Some insist it is. The nuttier and more abusive people are the better
they fare on Usenet. I never have acted in life they way I do now as
it's fight ... or die. I have learned to be who/what I am now and I
really dislike it but am also pretty good at kicking ass.
Post by Gregory Hall
The reason I thought she was a kook at first is the way she spent so
much time rebutting posts only written to taunt her but she gave a
very rational explanation why she does that.
That's part of my being "old-fashioned". I just naturally believe that
people write what they BELIEVE and I ASSUME that others believe it. I
feel compelled to defend myself and set the record straight. See how it
worked with you? I was always positive that everybody on alt.obituaries
believed everything PirateJohn claimed about me, same as
alt.fan.oj-simpson and what Robert Hickey claimed. I have since learned
from someone I consider important on alt.obits whom I feel has excellent
judgment about people and situations that *everybody* came around before
long to realize Gilmer was telling lies and they believed ME. He
revealed several more things that made me feel MUCH better. I had
assumed nobody believed me so I just gave up there trying to counter all
the slander and vicious abuse. I also got some new information about my
abuser that was very helpful to me and others.

And more power to her.
Post by Gregory Hall
She seems to be holding her own pretty darned well.
Thanks. I am trying. The truth and facts are powerful in my
experience, but they seem quite weak and worthless on Usenet. So many
people SHUN anything real and try to make this a Fantasy Warzone. I
just don't "get that".
Post by Gregory Hall
Post by PyrateJohn
You also might check the history of the posts at alt.nuke.the.usa,
going back about 3-4 weeks. Anderson typically gets depressed during
the holidays, and she did the same thing this holiday. So she was
writing crap back and forth between her sock puppets (her imaginary
friends) about myself, a couple up in the Northwest, and several
other guys that she stalked. She only got "teased" because after
about 2 weeks of that nonsense we got tired of it. Now this crap
has spilled over to other newsgroups that don't want to hear it
(they have heard plenty from Anderson over the years) and I don't
blame them.
The creative use of sockpuppets indicates an advanced intellect.
1) Then you're replying to an absolute genius. I can't imagine
anybody who has more sockpuppets and at least a score of them in working
order, with more being created all the time, not to mention using many
real posters names to post outrageous things with.

2) I do NOT get "depressed at holidays". I am enjoying this one, but
haven't made a BIG deal of Christmas for many years. I do enough. And
the rest of my time is pretty much spend as it always is. I had five
keys to replace on my laptop keyboard that finally were delivered late
yesterday so I spent quite awhile last night working on them. So, it
was Christmas Eve....I was listening to the best of Christmas music and
singing along. I had a stack of cards and letters that were also
delivered yesterday so I looked through them all when I went to
bed...and then fell peacefully asleep, feeling very nice and very
blessed. I intended to go out for breakfast this morning but slept in
instead. When I did walk out awhile ago to check the driveway, I saw
several vehicles having a very tough time getting back home so decided
nothing was important enough for me to ask for trouble like this so I
will hope to get out tomorrow. I don't need to go out; I just felt like
it. Most everything I do now is because I "feel" like it.

I,
Post by Gregory Hall
myself, have been known to employ a sock or two from time to time.
When one becomes bored with lesser intellects it's nice, on
occassion, to create and speak to an equal.
Gilmer keeps claiming I talk to myself through "Jose Gaspar" in FL and a
local man who uses variations of "Lumpy". I know both of their REAL
names but wouldn't reveal them to Gilmer if my life depended on it.
Therefore, he's convinced they are just nyms of MINE and all the
exchanges between me and them are "Karen talking to herself". He is
bat-shit crazy yet most people actually believe him and that I am the
one who is bat-shit "koOky". These two MEN write nothing like me and
write about many things I have no knowledge or experience in. How can
any RATIONAL person possibly think I'm writing the posts from Gaspar and
Lumpy? But the current war is based on it and it's a struggle for me to
survive that "rumoUr".

And lots of folks get
Post by Gregory Hall
depressed during the holidays.
They do and have reasons to. No money, broken families, fear of losing
their job or recently did lose it, bad health, etc. I am not the victim
of ANY of this. I am perfectly satisfied with my life, but the holidays
don't mean as much to me know as they do to people with big families and
grandchildren. I don't miss what they go through, nor envy them in the
least.
Post by Gregory Hall
To do so is considered normal.
Holidays are GREATLY over-rated. They are hyped up now to cause many
people to not live up to their expectations and then disappointment and
depression is the result.

As for
Post by Gregory Hall
not wanting to read her posts that's plenty easy to do. Just don't
open them.
He makes great effort to BAIT me so I will post and he reads EVERY word,
but only comments on what he can spin in his favor and denigrate and
defame me.

But, admit it, you are curious about what she's writing
Post by Gregory Hall
because she writes a lot about you and your friends so you open them
anyway. In a way it's flattering that a woman would spend so much
time communicating with you, don't you think?
Gives him a *woody*...he's thrilled but pretends he's not. He USES me
for his "purposes" and the rest of the time he uses the little cat he
named for me. :'((
R. Hickey
2008-12-26 15:59:27 UTC
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Post by Karen
That's why I replied to you. Pay attention to
what I write and not what my enemies write about
me.
Sure. "Pay no attention to that man behind the
curtain!"

Just pay attention to ME and not to a myriad of
others who know full well of what they speak.

Or she'll kill and eat YOU and your little dog,
Toto, too! AAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 01:41:11 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:30:38 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
wrote:

:>> As far as me "teasing" her you may recall that you said that she was
:>> legitimately insane a few days ago. You wrote a long piece about her
:>> being an attention seeker and why she won two Usenet Kook Awards a few
:>> months ago.
:>
:>But she ignored that one so I had to write another one that she couldn't
:>resist answering. And when she answered it I was impressed with her
:>normalcy.

Do you think it's normal to send 40 pornographic pictures of yourself to a
guy you've never met?

Do you think it's normal to follow this same guy around and take pictures
of him, pictures of he and his girlfriend, pictures of the guy's workplace,
pictures of his home, etc...?

Is that normal behavior in your book?

Would you find that type of behavior disturbing? Normal people do.

:>It now appears that there a couple of people posting and
:>attempting to make her appear to be some sort of kooky woman with mental
:>issues and they do a good job of it on the surface and had me almost sucked
:>in but I sure didn't see any indication of real kookery in her reply.

There's a Bremerton PD Detective who'd vehemently disagree with your
superficial assessment and conclusion.

Enjoy your stay. :)

----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 02:09:05 UTC
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Post by Sarah Ehrett
There's a Bremerton PD Detective who'd vehemently disagree with your
superficial assessment and conclusion.  
Enjoy your stay.   :)
There is also a Jacksonville street cop who said that Anderson's
package of stalking photos were "disturbing" and advised me to get a
gun, if I didn't have one already.

And when the threats continued there was the Jacksonville detective
who had also been stalked. In his case it was by the girlfriend of a
serial killer that has since been executed, so you can see what sorts
of people they were considering Anderson and her associate (at the
time) to be. He gave me some information on Anderson and her
associate, and a number to call if Anderson ever showed up again. He
notified the Daytona Beach cops, since some of those threats were
aimed at Bike Week.

When some strange, heavy-set woman wandered into my garage I called
'em and they sent out a two-man squad armed with bulletproof vests and
a submachine gun in their car. They probably had a big net and a
straight jacket in their car, but that's beside the point. Anyway, no
Anderson - for that matter the woman, who must have been a transient -
wandered away. The cops and I stood around talking about motorcycles
and comparing GPS receivers.

Certainly, the local cops have seen the evidence and took Anderson
seriously. They thought that she was a nut.

That's what she wants to do. She wants to be a stalker, and
terrorize, but she has a problem with that today. After almost 5
years, and my calling her bluff repeatedly, no one takes the old fool
seriously any more.

Congrats Greg. It's looks like she wants to be your latest friend.
Gregory Hall
2008-12-26 17:06:36 UTC
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Post by Sarah Ehrett
:>> As far as me "teasing" her you may recall that you said that she was
:>> legitimately insane a few days ago. You wrote a long piece about her
:>> being an attention seeker and why she won two Usenet Kook Awards a few
:>> months ago.
:>
:>But she ignored that one so I had to write another one that she couldn't
:>resist answering. And when she answered it I was impressed with her
:>normalcy.
Do you think it's normal to send 40 pornographic pictures of yourself to a
guy you've never met?
I doubt Karen did that deed. Remember, she was raised Catholic and, as such,
it can be assumed that she is a moral person. (Back in her formative years -
40s and 50s - there still existed such things as moral behavior and the
virtues of minimizing sinful behavior.) The alleged mailed photos are
probably all just a ruse concocted by somebody trying to befuddle and
bebother her to distraction in an attempt to slander the woman because mere
words on the screen didn't get the job done.

It didn't take me very long to discover that when it comes to Usenet it's
the lowbrow, illiterate types who can't properly utilized the English
language in a forum where such informed use is the prime requisite who often
resort to subterfuge on webpages and real life stalking behavior in a loony
attempt to buttress their impotence. Shame on you! It only took me a couple
of days to figure out what was really going on without having to do anything
but read and write here on Usenet. You might fool some folks but probably
fewer than you might think.
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Do you think it's normal to follow this same guy around and take pictures
of him, pictures of he and his girlfriend, pictures of the guy's workplace,
pictures of his home, etc...?
It would be if she were a photographer. Don't photographers have the right
to take pictures in public? Or, it more likely is sombody else suckering you
into thinking she did it while laughing at how gullible you are.
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Is that normal behavior in your book?
Would you find that type of behavior disturbing? Normal people do.
Hell, if she wanted to take photos of me I'd let her. I'd even pose nude for
her if she indicated a desire to do some 'artsy' photos - no porn though.
What's the big deal with some dumb photos anyway? You sound like Barbara
Streisand filing a lawsuit because some survey company took aerial photos of
her house and published them along with thousands of others. Hey, grow up.
You just aren't as important as you might think in the scheme of things And
another thing. Calling yourself Sarah is dumb. You're obviously male.
Females don't act as agressively as you act.
Post by Sarah Ehrett
:>It now appears that there a couple of people posting and
:>attempting to make her appear to be some sort of kooky woman with mental
:>issues and they do a good job of it on the surface and had me almost sucked
:>in but I sure didn't see any indication of real kookery in her reply.
There's a Bremerton PD Detective who'd vehemently disagree with your
superficial assessment and conclusion.
Whoop-de-doo! I'm sooooo impressed. Talk about a kook! You just admitted U R
1.
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Enjoy your stay. :)
I wouldn't be here if I wasn't enjoying it. Ha ha.
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 17:28:45 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Do you think it's normal to send 40 pornographic pictures of yourself to a
guy you've never met?
I doubt Karen did that deed. Remember, she was raised Catholic and, as such,
it can be assumed that she is a moral person. (Back in her formative years -
40s and 50s - there still existed such things as moral behavior and the
virtues of minimizing sinful behavior.) The alleged mailed photos are
probably all just a ruse concocted by somebody trying to befuddle and
bebother her to distraction in an attempt to slander the woman because mere
words on the screen didn't get the job done.
I think that Gregory is yankin' our chain, so to speak. ;)

Hey Grandpa! <ducking for cover> I wrote a missive to you about my
experiences with You Know Who. Because I didn't cross post it to some
of the other groups, and I suspect that you are reading this at AUK,
you probably didn't see it. It's boring stuff with some of the
history of this 5 year fight, but if you are interested, then take a
look back at the ANTU posts for the last 24 hours or so.
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 17:59:54 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:28:45 -0800 (PST), PyrateJohn <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

:>On Dec 26, 11:06 am, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake> wrote:
:>
:>
:>> > Do you think it's normal to send 40 pornographic pictures of yourself to a
:>> > guy you've never met?
:>>
:>> I doubt Karen did that deed. Remember, she was raised Catholic and, as such,
:>> it can be assumed that she is a moral person. (Back in her formative years -
:>> 40s and 50s - there still existed such things as moral behavior and the
:>> virtues of minimizing sinful behavior.) The alleged mailed photos are
:>> probably all just a ruse concocted by somebody trying to befuddle and
:>> bebother her to distraction in an attempt to slander the woman because mere
:>> words on the screen didn't get the job done.
:>>
:>
:>
:>I think that Gregory is yankin' our chain, so to speak. ;)
:>
:>Hey Grandpa! <ducking for cover> I wrote a missive to you about my
:>experiences with You Know Who. Because I didn't cross post it to some
:>of the other groups, and I suspect that you are reading this at AUK,
:>you probably didn't see it. It's boring stuff with some of the
:>history of this 5 year fight, but if you are interested, then take a
:>look back at the ANTU posts for the last 24 hours or so.

John, Gregory is kooky Karen. Look at the recurring themes. This "guy"
shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave. No one ever defends
Karen except Karen. It's her clear pattern that she has repeated over and
over.


----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
2008-12-26 18:11:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sarah Ehrett
John, Gregory is kooky Karen.
No, he really isn't.
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Look at the recurring themes. This
"guy" shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave. No one
ever defends Karen except Karen. It's her clear pattern that she
has repeated over and over.
Except that Gregory Hall is not Karen, and that *fact* is known to
everyone posting in auk.

So now I'm wondering if all the other alleged Karen socks are really
socks at all.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

"You know you can indict a ham sandwich if you want to."
William J. Martini, Judge, United States District Court
Gregory Hall
2008-12-26 18:41:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Post by Sarah Ehrett
John, Gregory is kooky Karen.
No, he really isn't.
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Look at the recurring themes. This
"guy" shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave. No one
ever defends Karen except Karen. It's her clear pattern that she
has repeated over and over.
Except that Gregory Hall is not Karen, and that *fact* is known to
everyone posting in auk.
So now I'm wondering if all the other alleged Karen socks are really socks
at all.
So you see the pattern, too? Hahhah. Think of it this way. The AUK award
givers have been taken for a ride every time they bestowed one of their dumb
awards on Karen. Played for the fools they are. You're part of that mess,
too, aren't you? Or you just another plain vanilla DataBasux slurper?
--
Gregory Hall
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
2008-12-26 19:00:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Post by Sarah Ehrett
John, Gregory is kooky Karen.
No, he really isn't.
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Look at the recurring themes. This
"guy" shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave. No one
ever defends Karen except Karen. It's her clear pattern that she
has repeated over and over.
Except that Gregory Hall is not Karen, and that *fact* is known to
everyone posting in auk.
So now I'm wondering if all the other alleged Karen socks are really
socks at all.
So you see the pattern, too?
I see two people (with following) who get some payoff spending years and
years harassing each other. I have both of them killfiled.
Post by Gregory Hall
Hahhah. Think of it this way. The AUK
award givers have been taken for a ride every time they bestowed one
of their dumb awards on Karen. Played for the fools they are. You're
part of that mess, too, aren't you? Or you just another plain vanilla
DataBasux slurper?
I'm a Galactically Killfiled k0oK who is stalked by Meat Plow at every
turn.

I don't like you because you're a racist fuckhead.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

"You know you can indict a ham sandwich if you want to."
William J. Martini, Judge, United States District Court
Gregory Hall
2008-12-26 19:15:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Post by Sarah Ehrett
John, Gregory is kooky Karen.
No, he really isn't.
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Look at the recurring themes. This
"guy" shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave. No one
ever defends Karen except Karen. It's her clear pattern that she
has repeated over and over.
Except that Gregory Hall is not Karen, and that *fact* is known to
everyone posting in auk.
So now I'm wondering if all the other alleged Karen socks are really
socks at all.
So you see the pattern, too?
I see two people (with following) who get some payoff spending years and
years harassing each other. I have both of them killfiled.
Post by Gregory Hall
Hahhah. Think of it this way. The AUK
award givers have been taken for a ride every time they bestowed one
of their dumb awards on Karen. Played for the fools they are. You're
part of that mess, too, aren't you? Or you just another plain vanilla
DataBasux slurper?
I'm a Galactically Killfiled k0oK who is stalked by Meat Plow at every
turn.
I don't like you because you're a racist fuckhead.
<sniff>
--
Gregory Hall
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 18:43:37 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:11:36 -0600, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
<***@databasix.com> wrote:

:>Sarah Ehrett wrote:
:>
:>> John, Gregory is kooky Karen.
:>
:>No, he really isn't.

Gregory Hall has admitted he runs sockpuppets. Bragged about it in fact.
These posts by "Greg" are classic Karen Anderson kookposts, complete with
Anderson theme's, some of which she hasn't used in months yet "Greg"
parrots them back. If Gregory Hall is a real person he has spent an
inordinate amount of time researching Karen and her activities.

:>> Look at the recurring themes. This
:>> "guy" shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave. No one
:>> ever defends Karen except Karen. It's her clear pattern that she
:>> has repeated over and over.
:>
:>Except that Gregory Hall is not Karen, and that *fact* is known to
:>everyone posting in auk.

He has her same detachment from reality?

:>So now I'm wondering if all the other alleged Karen socks are really
:>socks at all.

Well if it were me and I had any doubt I would want to contact Gregory Hall
via email/back channel to confirm these are really his posts.

I don't doubt the link.

----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 19:11:32 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:43:37 -0500, Sarah Ehrett <***@cox.net> wrote:

:>On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:11:36 -0600, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
:><***@databasix.com> wrote:
:>
:>:>Sarah Ehrett wrote:
:>:>
:>:>> John, Gregory is kooky Karen.
:>:>
:>:>No, he really isn't.
:>
:>Gregory Hall has admitted he runs sockpuppets. Bragged about it in fact.
:>These posts by "Greg" are classic Karen Anderson kookposts, complete with
:>Anderson theme's, some of which she hasn't used in months yet "Greg"
:>parrots them back. If Gregory Hall is a real person he has spent an
:>inordinate amount of time researching Karen and her activities.
:>
:>:>> Look at the recurring themes. This
:>:>> "guy" shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave. No one
:>:>> ever defends Karen except Karen. It's her clear pattern that she
:>:>> has repeated over and over.
:>:>
:>:>Except that Gregory Hall is not Karen, and that *fact* is known to
:>:>everyone posting in auk.
:>
:>He has her same detachment from reality?
:>
:>:>So now I'm wondering if all the other alleged Karen socks are really
:>:>socks at all.
:>
:>Well if it were me and I had any doubt I would want to contact Gregory Hall
:>via email/back channel to confirm these are really his posts.
:>
:>I don't doubt the link.

Pardon me for responding to my own post but the link is clear. Gregory
Hall has an ax to grind with AUK and in that he shares the company of Karen
Anderson in being a repeat recipient of numerous AUK nominations and
awards. Bitter to the bone.

----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
2008-12-26 19:29:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Post by Sarah Ehrett
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:11:36 -0600, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Post by Sarah Ehrett
John, Gregory is kooky Karen.
No, he really isn't.
Gregory Hall has admitted he runs sockpuppets. Bragged about it in
fact. These posts by "Greg" are classic Karen Anderson kookposts,
complete with Anderson theme's, some of which she hasn't used in
months yet "Greg" parrots them back. If Gregory Hall is a real
person he has spent an inordinate amount of time researching Karen
and her activities.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Look at the recurring themes. This
"guy" shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave. No
one ever defends Karen except Karen. It's her clear pattern
that she has repeated over and over.
Except that Gregory Hall is not Karen, and that *fact* is known to
everyone posting in auk.
He has her same detachment from reality?
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
So now I'm wondering if all the other alleged Karen socks are
really socks at all.
Well if it were me and I had any doubt I would want to contact
Gregory Hall via email/back channel to confirm these are really his
posts.
I don't doubt the link.
Pardon me for responding to my own post but the link is clear.
Gregory Hall has an ax to grind with AUK and in that he shares the
company of Karen Anderson in being a repeat recipient of numerous AUK
nominations and awards. Bitter to the bone.
There are those who say that I have an ax to grind with auk--I have two
"awards" and I'm in the Galactic Killfile. I still don't think much of
either Gregory or Karen, although I must admit that John seems pretty
kooky to me as well.

Now what?
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

"You know you can indict a ham sandwich if you want to."
William J. Martini, Judge, United States District Court
Gregory Hall
2008-12-26 19:53:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Post by Sarah Ehrett
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:11:36 -0600, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Post by Sarah Ehrett
John, Gregory is kooky Karen.
No, he really isn't.
Gregory Hall has admitted he runs sockpuppets. Bragged about it in
fact. These posts by "Greg" are classic Karen Anderson kookposts,
complete with Anderson theme's, some of which she hasn't used in
months yet "Greg" parrots them back. If Gregory Hall is a real
person he has spent an inordinate amount of time researching Karen
and her activities.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Look at the recurring themes. This
"guy" shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave. No
one ever defends Karen except Karen. It's her clear pattern
that she has repeated over and over.
Except that Gregory Hall is not Karen, and that *fact* is known to
everyone posting in auk.
He has her same detachment from reality?
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
So now I'm wondering if all the other alleged Karen socks are
really socks at all.
Well if it were me and I had any doubt I would want to contact
Gregory Hall via email/back channel to confirm these are really his
posts.
I don't doubt the link.
Pardon me for responding to my own post but the link is clear.
Gregory Hall has an ax to grind with AUK and in that he shares the
company of Karen Anderson in being a repeat recipient of numerous AUK
nominations and awards. Bitter to the bone.
There are those who say that I have an ax to grind with auk--I have two
"awards" and I'm in the Galactic Killfile. I still don't think much of
either Gregory or Karen, although I must admit that John seems pretty
kooky to me as well.
If you subscribed to a respectable NSP like Altopia you might stand a chance
of being removed from the Galactic Killfile. Databasux has a dubious
reputation and many sensible folks set up filters to exclude each and every
post that originates from "the troll server" as it is often called.

That's the main reason why I quit Databasux when I did. (Secondary reason
was harassment by little Kevin Cannon.)
--
Gregory Hall
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
2008-12-26 20:11:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Post by Sarah Ehrett
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:11:36 -0600, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Post by Sarah Ehrett
John, Gregory is kooky Karen.
No, he really isn't.
Gregory Hall has admitted he runs sockpuppets. Bragged about it
in fact. These posts by "Greg" are classic Karen Anderson
kookposts, complete with Anderson theme's, some of which she
hasn't used in months yet "Greg" parrots them back. If Gregory
Hall is a real person he has spent an inordinate amount of time
researching Karen and her activities.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Look at the recurring themes. This
"guy" shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave. No
one ever defends Karen except Karen. It's her clear
pattern that she has repeated over and over.
Except that Gregory Hall is not Karen, and that *fact* is known
to everyone posting in auk.
He has her same detachment from reality?
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
So now I'm wondering if all the other alleged Karen socks are
really socks at all.
Well if it were me and I had any doubt I would want to contact
Gregory Hall via email/back channel to confirm these are really
his posts.
I don't doubt the link.
Pardon me for responding to my own post but the link is clear.
Gregory Hall has an ax to grind with AUK and in that he shares the
company of Karen Anderson in being a repeat recipient of numerous
AUK nominations and awards. Bitter to the bone.
There are those who say that I have an ax to grind with auk--I have
two "awards" and I'm in the Galactic Killfile. I still don't think
much of either Gregory or Karen, although I must admit that John
seems pretty kooky to me as well.
If you subscribed to a respectable NSP like Altopia you might stand a
chance of being removed from the Galactic Killfile. Databasux has a
dubious reputation and many sensible folks set up filters to exclude
each and every post that originates from "the troll server" as it is
often called.
I'm perfectly happy with DataBasix, although I do subscribe to several
other NSPs, including Altopia. I use them as feeds for Hamster, but
DataBasix is my preferred post server.

The Galactic Killfile is not a real killfile anyway--more like the
ultimate award (and reward, now that I think of it).
Post by Gregory Hall
That's the main reason why I quit Databasux when I did. (Secondary
reason was harassment by little Kevin Cannon.)
Your morphing was excessive or Gary would not have shitcanned you, Greg.
It's that simple. If you mind the AUP, you'll never have a problem with
Gary, because he'll go to the wall for you. You didn't, so neither did
he.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

"You know you can indict a ham sandwich if you want to."
William J. Martini, Judge, United States District Court
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 20:16:54 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:29:22 -0600, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
<***@databasix.com> wrote:

:>Sarah Ehrett wrote:
:>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:43:37 -0500, Sarah Ehrett <***@cox.net>
:>> wrote:
:>>
:>>>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:11:36 -0600, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
:>>>> <***@databasix.com> wrote:
:>>>>
:>>>>>> Sarah Ehrett wrote:
:>>>>>>
:>>>>>>> John, Gregory is kooky Karen.
:>>>>>>
:>>>>>> No, he really isn't.
:>>>>
:>>>> Gregory Hall has admitted he runs sockpuppets. Bragged about it in
:>>>> fact. These posts by "Greg" are classic Karen Anderson kookposts,
:>>>> complete with Anderson theme's, some of which she hasn't used in
:>>>> months yet "Greg" parrots them back. If Gregory Hall is a real
:>>>> person he has spent an inordinate amount of time researching Karen
:>>>> and her activities.
:>>>>
:>>>>>>> Look at the recurring themes. This
:>>>>>>> "guy" shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave. No
:>>>>>>> one ever defends Karen except Karen. It's her clear pattern
:>>>>>>> that she has repeated over and over.
:>>>>>>
:>>>>>> Except that Gregory Hall is not Karen, and that *fact* is known to
:>>>>>> everyone posting in auk.
:>>>>
:>>>> He has her same detachment from reality?
:>>>>
:>>>>>> So now I'm wondering if all the other alleged Karen socks are
:>>>>>> really socks at all.
:>>>>
:>>>> Well if it were me and I had any doubt I would want to contact
:>>>> Gregory Hall via email/back channel to confirm these are really his
:>>>> posts.
:>>>>
:>>>> I don't doubt the link.
:>>
:>> Pardon me for responding to my own post but the link is clear.
:>> Gregory Hall has an ax to grind with AUK and in that he shares the
:>> company of Karen Anderson in being a repeat recipient of numerous AUK
:>> nominations and awards. Bitter to the bone.
:>
:>There are those who say that I have an ax to grind with auk--I have two
:>"awards" and I'm in the Galactic Killfile. I still don't think much of
:>either Gregory or Karen, although I must admit that John seems pretty
:>kooky to me as well.
:>
:>Now what?

You never know. I will say about John that he is a true free spirit and
next to nothing bothers him. And although he is a crazy Liberal and I am
a staunch Conservative we've still found common ground and have been
associates on usenet for over 10 years, subscribing to many of the same
rec* and science* newsgroups. John really doesn't have an evil bone in his
body and would be the first to invite you in for a bite to eat.



----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 20:39:58 UTC
Permalink
You never know.   I will say about John that he is a true free spirit and
next to nothing bothers him.   And although he is a crazy Liberal and I am
a staunch Conservative we've still found common ground and have been
associates on usenet for over 10 years, subscribing to many of the same
rec* and science* newsgroups.  John really doesn't have an evil bone in his
body and would be the first to invite you in for a bite to eat.  
----
Thanks Sarah! I'll have to frame that somewhere ;)

--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Gregory Hall
2008-12-26 20:47:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by PyrateJohn
Thanks Sarah! I'll have to frame that somewhere ;)
--PirateJohn--
http://www.PirateJohn.com
And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Neither of your links works for me. Something about an open DNS and
computers down that carry the pages.

I was hoping to see if you had a decent sailboat. MacGregor and Beneteau are
junk IMO.
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 21:10:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gregory Hall
Thanks Sarah!  I'll have to frame that somewhere ;)
--PirateJohn--
http://www.PirateJohn.com
And the new blog athttp://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Neither of your links works for me. Something about an open DNS and
computers down that carry the pages.
I was hoping to see if you had a decent sailboat. MacGregor and Beneteau are
junk IMO.
--
Gregory Hall
The blog is working. Karen has played another of her dirty tricks
(no, I'm not making this up - I just got off the phone with the host)
and my PirateJohn site is down. That should be resolved in a few
hours.

I had a 27' Hunter, which wasn't really suitable for the coastal
Carolinas unless you motor inside the Intracoastal. I'd like to get
one of the Farrier/Corsair trimarans at some point down the road.
Probably when I get too old to motorcycle ;)

--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Gregory Hall
2008-12-26 21:22:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by PyrateJohn
The blog is working. Karen has played another of her dirty tricks
(no, I'm not making this up - I just got off the phone with the host)
and my PirateJohn site is down. That should be resolved in a few
hours.
I had a 27' Hunter, which wasn't really suitable for the coastal
Carolinas unless you motor inside the Intracoastal. I'd like to get
one of the Farrier/Corsair trimarans at some point down the road.
Probably when I get too old to motorcycle ;)
Yup, the blog finally came through. That Karen - she's got her sticky little
fingers everywhere. (But not in a bucket of Colonel Sanders!)

Hunters are junk. Those new Farrier tris are fast but not much good at
carrying a load. Seems like I saw a 31-footer a couple months ago. That
would be exciting to sail. It was scorching across the bay with a Kevlar
colored mainsail and jib.

You never get too old ride a motorcycle. What do you ride? I ride a cherry,
1975, Suzuki GT 380. (Yeah, I know - RICE.) I hate those heavy as a pig,
noisy Harleys ridden by mostly over-the-hill gangers. Talk about looking
like fags in their black leather chaps and all. Bwahahhahahah. Give me a
road with some tight curves and I'll whip the lot of them with my little ole
Suzuki.
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 22:06:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gregory Hall
Hunters are junk. Those new Farrier tris are fast but not much good at
carrying a load. Seems like I saw a 31-footer a couple months ago.  That
would be exciting to sail. It was scorching across the bay with a Kevlar
colored mainsail and jib.
I have always admired the Farrier-designed boats. They are one of the
few small, trailerable boats that strike me as being really blue water
capable.

I think that you are right about their poor load carrying ability.
That, and they aren't very spacious considering the cost and the
length. What I was thinking about doing was getting a second, shorter
motorhome (the one that I have is simply too long to tow a boat of
that size) and to camp out in the RV and to take the tri day sailing.
Maybe an overnight trip every so often. That way I wouldn't be
relying on the boat to sleep in.

Ever been to San Carlos in Sonora, Mexico? It's maybe 200 miles south
of the Arizona border. Beautiful place full of sailing folks. I
always thought that setting sail and exploring the Sea of Cortez would
be the life. And when you get bored with that, run on over to Baja
and explore the Pacific.

You've got to admit that a sailboat in a warm place where there is
plenty of fishin' ain't a bad retirement plan.

At the moment, realistically, Mama is wanting another motor home, so
I'm not holding my breath about getting another sailboat anytime soon.
Post by Gregory Hall
You never get too old ride a motorcycle. What do you ride? I ride a cherry,
1975, Suzuki GT 380. (Yeah, I know - RICE.) I hate those heavy as a pig,
noisy Harleys ridden by mostly over-the-hill gangers. Talk about looking
like fags in their black leather chaps and all. Bwahahhahahah. Give me a
road with some tight curves and I'll whip the lot of them with my little ole
Suzuki.
--
Gregory Hall
I know them well. My first bike was a blue GT-380. Neat little 2-
stroke but the handling was scary past 80 mph. ;)

At the moment I've got four BMW's: an R1100GS equipped for pretty
serious expedition riding, an R1150GS that's my daily rider (until
lately it seems), a K1100RS that is equipped for Iron Butt Association
events, and a K1200LT. Alas, they are all back in Florida and 2 of
them were (or should have been) in the shop when we left, and the K-
bike was disassembled. Since we haven't decided where we plan to
settle there hasn't been much urgency to move the bikes to Texas, but
I confess that I'd love to have one of the GS's out here so that I
could go riding. I've talked to a couple of dealers about getting a
new F800GS but the bikes are new, they want top dollar (or top peso -
I have considered getting a Mexican registered bike), and at the
moment I'd rather not dip that deeply into our savings, at least until
we've got some fresh $$$ coming in.


--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 21:14:29 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:47:24 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
wrote:

:>
:>"PyrateJohn" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
:>news:9441812d-1ad4-4ac4-8393-***@17g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
:>
:>
:>> Thanks Sarah! I'll have to frame that somewhere ;)
:>>
:>> --PirateJohn--
:>>
:>> http://www.PirateJohn.com
:>>
:>> And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
:>
:>
:>Neither of your links works for me. Something about an open DNS and
:>computers down that carry the pages.

They're working here as of 30 seconds ago.

----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 22:42:38 UTC
Permalink
They're working here as of 30 seconds ago.  
Oh, she complained about "her" page and the host took down my entire
site. I'd have it back up by now but ... duh ... it's the holidays.
I've got space elsewhere and I can re-route the various domain names
but I need a little advice on a configuration issue, hence the delay.

All that she's doing is buying herself a day or two, and then her page
(soon to be her pages) will be back, better than ever.

*UNLESS* the crazy old bat decides that she wants to play nice and
leave us the hell alone. And that includes her nyms going away.

--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 21:00:40 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:39:58 -0800 (PST), PyrateJohn <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

:>On Dec 26, 2:16 pm, Sarah Ehrett <***@cox.net> wrote:
:>
:>
:>>
:>> You never know.   I will say about John that he is a true free spirit and
:>> next to nothing bothers him.   And although he is a crazy Liberal and I am
:>> a staunch Conservative we've still found common ground and have been
:>> associates on usenet for over 10 years, subscribing to many of the same
:>> rec* and science* newsgroups.  John really doesn't have an evil bone in his
:>> body and would be the first to invite you in for a bite to eat.  
:>>
:>> ----
:>
:>
:>Thanks Sarah! I'll have to frame that somewhere ;)

I deny it all! LOL! :)


:>--PirateJohn--
:>
:>http://www.PirateJohn.com
:>
:>And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com


----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Puma
2008-12-26 22:31:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Gregory Hall has admitted he runs sockpuppets. Bragged about it in
fact. These posts by "Greg" are classic Karen Anderson kookposts,
complete with Anderson theme's, some of which she hasn't used in
months yet "Greg" parrots them back.
I suggested that "Greg" give the kow his address. Somehow I do not see
that happening number one because he is kow, number two if he did he would
be the saddest man on earth and wouldn't have time to post on USENET
because he'd be replying to all of the kow-posts. Sad sad sad.
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 18:24:08 UTC
Permalink
John, Gregory is kooky Karen.    Look at the recurring themes.  This "guy"
shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave.  No one ever defends
Karen except Karen.   It's her clear pattern that she has repeated over and
over.  
Nothing would totally surprise me. However, I took it that he was
yanking her chain with those lines about how Catholic girls never go
bad.

'sides ... he's been posting for months and is active in the sailing
communities. He knows the difference between a Beneteau and a
McGregor - I doubt if Kow would know the difference between a mast and
a rudder.

She might have read somewhere about my interests in getting another
sailboat, but ... ;)
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 18:48:39 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:24:08 -0800 (PST), PyrateJohn <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

:>On Dec 26, 11:59 am, Sarah Ehrett <***@cox.net> wrote:
:>
:>
:>
:>>
:>> John, Gregory is kooky Karen.    Look at the recurring themes.  This "guy"
:>> shows up just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" take their leave.  No one ever defends
:>> Karen except Karen.   It's her clear pattern that she has repeated over and
:>> over.  
:>>
:>
:>
:>Nothing would totally surprise me. However, I took it that he was
:>yanking her chain with those lines about how Catholic girls never go
:>bad.

Considering all the wonderful pedophile Priests in the Catholic Church...

:>'sides ... he's been posting for months and is active in the sailing
:>communities. He knows the difference between a Beneteau and a
:>McGregor - I doubt if Kow would know the difference between a mast and
:>a rudder.

Could be I'm wrong John but it's clear " Gregory Hall " has spent an
inordinate amount of time researching Karen and her activities. He's said
he's run sockpuppets and just didn't show up here and "read a few posts".
You might recall that was Lumpload's claim. "He" claimed to have just
stumbled upon Karen's plight and decided to take up the flag.

:>She might have read somewhere about my interests in getting another
:>sailboat, but ... ;)
:>


----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 19:05:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Could be I'm wrong John
Better safe than sorry. You and I and the others who have dealt with
her know that she's daffy as they come, but her own special kind of
insanity breeds those multi-personality socks that we have all come to
know and love ;)
Gregory Hall
2008-12-26 18:37:52 UTC
Permalink
"PyrateJohn" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:c419165b-dca9-4e22-ae69-***@k19g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
<snipped some>
Post by PyrateJohn
I think that Gregory is yankin' our chain, so to speak. ;)
Hey Grandpa! <ducking for cover> I wrote a missive to you about my
experiences with You Know Who. Because I didn't cross post it to some
of the other groups, and I suspect that you are reading this at AUK,
you probably didn't see it. It's boring stuff with some of the
history of this 5 year fight, but if you are interested, then take a
look back at the ANTU posts for the last 24 hours or so.
You're right. I've been reading your posts in AUK. They're much more
interesting than the usual single-liner, profanity-laden crap the regulars
here think it's so clever of them to post.

And these AUK awards. What an even larger load of crap. A handful of fools
here actually spend their time nominating, tallying votes, rigging the
elections and posting the bogus results and they seem to think they are
worthy of some sort of praise for acting out in such an immature and
ignorant manner.

And, get this. Of the hundreds of different people who post here daily they
maybe manage to get 7 or 8 countable votes max for any of their
waste-of-space awards. They have a transgendered freak by the name of Miss
Pinku-Sensimilla (meaning 'without seeds' because he's got his nuts lopped
off). That alone should clue everybody in. A freaking eunuch administering
equally impotent awards. If it wasn't so sick it would be hilarious.

But, what is the very most funny thing of all is how a little cadre of
anus-faced misfits who call themselves the "cabal" or the "cabalistas"
actually think they can intimidate people by selecting victims to whom they
hand out their awards irregardless of the actual vote. You see, it's all so
transparent. Such a sham. They do these pitiful little kook awards every
month and on special occasions because they found out they had no ability to
act upon the stage of the theater of the mind that is Usenet because their
minds were sadly unprepared considering they never learned how to read or
write beyond maybe the 5th-grade level.

You can count upon the fact that the better you are at written discourse the
more kook awards they will unload upon you because they are trying to make
up for the fact that they can't write a coherent paragraph or read one with
understanding. Then they've even gone so far as to copy Wikipedia with their
sadly lacking Kookipedia: http://www.kookpedia.net/index.php/Main_Page

Here is a list of awards they've slid down their collective poop chute in my
general direction. Please note that I reject every single one of them as too
lame to be considered anything but a farcical charade.

--------beginning of list----------

BOB ALLISAT MEMORIAL HOOK, LINE & SINKER
The winner is...CAPTAIN NEAL AKA GREGORY HALL!

PALMJOB PADDLE
The winner is...CAPTAIN NEAL AKA GREGORY HALL!

OFFICE OF DARTH BAWL
The winner is...CAPTAIN NEAL AKA GREGORY HALL!

TONY SIDAWAY DRAMA QUEEN AWARD
The winner is...CAPTAIN NEAL AKA GREGORY HALL!

ORDER OF THE HOLEY SOCKPUPPET
The winner is...CAPTAIN NEAL AKA GREGORY HALL!

BARBARA WOODHOUSE MEMORIAL DOG-WHISTLE AWARD
The winner is...CAPTAIN NEAL AKA GREGORY HALL!

Don't go anywhere, Captain Bloodless. I have another, very special
award for you right here.
TINFOIL SOMBRERO

KOOK OF THE MONTH
The winner is...CAPTAIN NEAL AKA GREGORY HALL!

SPECIAL OPS CODY MEMORIAL PURPLE HEART
The winner is...CAPTAIN NEAL AKA GREGORY HALL!

FR00TCAKE
The winner is...CAPTAIN NEAL AKA GREGORY HALL!

---------end of list-------------

Hahahhahahahhahahahah. It's just such a RIOT. Imagine the hours these idiots
have wasted on something as inconsequential as the above. The only thing
sillier is some people who get these awards hasten to append them on their
sig and they proudly display them at the tail end of every post. And THEY
think they are the normal ones???? And here I am, perhaps the most
intelligent, rational and logical (not to mention well-spoken) individual on
Usenet and the little maggot-folk, left behind wannabes presume to attempt
to treat with me - their infinite superior and not be shown for what they
are - totally useless, inept frauds and crybabies who have to make up their
own imbecile side show game because they can't stay in the real game with
the big boys and girls. Hell, look at the lot of them. RABBLE! Don't they
remind you of the little, fat, uncoordinated, snot-nosed kid who was always
the very last to be chosen for a game of dodge ball?

Anyway, I don't have the time to chase all over hell looking for that
five-year history of Karen Anderson baiting and bashing. If you happen to
get the time or have the urge to do so please repost here in AUK. The
current puppetry is some good theater of the mind so some background might
help the audience appreciate the plots and subplots better.
--
Gregory Hall
Kali
2008-12-26 18:55:56 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@news.alt.net>, ***@home.fake
says...
Post by Gregory Hall
irregardless of the actual vote. You see, it's all so
^^^^^^^^^^^^

*cringe*

Ph.D. in journalism?

[...]
Post by Gregory Hall
sadly unprepared considering they never learned how to read or
write beyond maybe the 5th-grade level.
Hmm.
--
Kali
Gregory Hall
2008-12-26 19:13:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kali
says...
Post by Gregory Hall
irregardless of the actual vote. You see, it's all so
^^^^^^^^^^^^
*cringe*
Educate yourself and you won't have to cringe:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
Post by Kali
Ph.D. in journalism?
[...]
One learns that one must target one's writing to one's audience.
--
Gregory Hall
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 19:07:29 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:37:52 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
wrote:


:> And here I am, perhaps the most intelligent, rational and logical (not to mention well-spoken) :>individual on Usenet and the little maggot-folk, left behind wannabes presume to attempt
:>to treat with me - their infinite superior and not be shown for what they
:>are - totally useless, inept frauds and crybabies who have to make up their
:>own imbecile side show game because they can't stay in the real game with
:>the big boys and girls.

And then entertained us with the following blundering laughriot:

:>hand out their awards irregardless
^^^^^^^^


ir·re·gard·less (r-gärdls)
adv. Nonstandard
Regardless.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Probably blend of irrespective and regardless.]
Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be
correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in
nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the
early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an
improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical
absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single
term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from
words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been
considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

-------

Blunder on Gregory. Looks like you're campaigning for another kook award.

----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Gregory Hall
2008-12-26 19:20:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sarah Ehrett
:> And here I am, perhaps the most intelligent, rational and logical (not
to mention well-spoken) :>individual on Usenet and the little maggot-folk,
left behind wannabes presume to attempt
:>to treat with me - their infinite superior and not be shown for what they
:>are - totally useless, inept frauds and crybabies who have to make up their
:>own imbecile side show game because they can't stay in the real game with
:>the big boys and girls.
:>hand out their awards irregardless
^^^^^^^^
So many illiterates; so little time!
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

<snipped dated crap>

--
Gregory Hall
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 20:09:51 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:20:03 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
wrote:

:>
:>"Sarah Ehrett" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
:>news:***@4ax.com...
:>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:37:52 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
:>> wrote:
:>>
:>>
:>> :> And here I am, perhaps the most intelligent, rational and logical (not
:>> to mention well-spoken) :>individual on Usenet and the little maggot-folk,
:>> left behind wannabes presume to attempt
:>> :>to treat with me - their infinite superior and not be shown for what
:>> they
:>> :>are - totally useless, inept frauds and crybabies who have to make up
:>> their
:>> :>own imbecile side show game because they can't stay in the real game
:>> with
:>> :>the big boys and girls.
:>>
:>> And then entertained us with the following blundering laughriot:
:>>
:>> :>hand out their awards irregardless
:>> ^^^^^^^^
:>
:>
:>So many illiterates; so little time!
:>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

Didn't you read your own cite? <smirk>

" There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech,
although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation
has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general
acceptance. Use regardless instead. "

"...it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless
instead. "

Hoist. Own. Petard.


----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Gregory Hall
2008-12-26 20:41:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sarah Ehrett
:>
:>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:37:52 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
:>>
:>>
:>> :> And here I am, perhaps the most intelligent, rational and logical (not
:>> to mention well-spoken) :>individual on Usenet and the little maggot-folk,
:>> left behind wannabes presume to attempt
:>> :>to treat with me - their infinite superior and not be shown for what
:>> they
:>> :>are - totally useless, inept frauds and crybabies who have to make up
:>> their
:>> :>own imbecile side show game because they can't stay in the real game
:>> with
:>> :>the big boys and girls.
:>>
:>>
:>> :>hand out their awards irregardless
:>> ^^^^^^^^
:>
:>
:>So many illiterates; so little time!
:>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
Didn't you read your own cite? <smirk>
" There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech,
although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation
has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general
acceptance. Use regardless instead. "
"...it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless
instead. "
"There is such a word, . . ." And it is any author's unilateral decision to
use words as he will.
--
Gregory Hall
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 21:03:25 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:41:48 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
wrote:

:>
:>"Sarah Ehrett" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
:>news:***@4ax.com...
:>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:20:03 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
:>> wrote:
:>>
:>> :>
:>> :>"Sarah Ehrett" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
:>> :>news:***@4ax.com...
:>> :>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:37:52 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
:>> <***@home.fake>
:>> :>> wrote:
:>> :>>
:>> :>>
:>> :>> :> And here I am, perhaps the most intelligent, rational and logical
:>> (not
:>> :>> to mention well-spoken) :>individual on Usenet and the little
:>> maggot-folk,
:>> :>> left behind wannabes presume to attempt
:>> :>> :>to treat with me - their infinite superior and not be shown for what
:>> :>> they
:>> :>> :>are - totally useless, inept frauds and crybabies who have to make
:>> up
:>> :>> their
:>> :>> :>own imbecile side show game because they can't stay in the real game
:>> :>> with
:>> :>> :>the big boys and girls.
:>> :>>
:>> :>> And then entertained us with the following blundering laughriot:
:>> :>>
:>> :>> :>hand out their awards irregardless
:>> :>> ^^^^^^^^
:>> :>
:>> :>
:>> :>So many illiterates; so little time!
:>> :>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
:>>
:>> Didn't you read your own cite? <smirk>
:>>
:>> " There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech,
:>> although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation
:>> has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general
:>> acceptance. Use regardless instead. "
:>>
:>> "...it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless
:>> instead. "
:>>
:>>
:>
:>"There is such a word, . . ."

I never said it wasn't, Dopey.

:>And it is any author's unilateral decision to
:>use words as he will.

Then perhaps another cite might be better for you to use in your defense
rather than the one chosen which recommends the usage of " regardless"
instead.

----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Gregory Hall
2008-12-26 21:25:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sarah Ehrett
:>
:>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:20:03 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
:>>
:>> :>
:>> :>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:37:52 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
:>> :>>
:>> :>>
:>> :>> :> And here I am, perhaps the most intelligent, rational and logical
:>> (not
:>> :>> to mention well-spoken) :>individual on Usenet and the little
:>> maggot-folk,
:>> :>> left behind wannabes presume to attempt
:>> :>> :>to treat with me - their infinite superior and not be shown for what
:>> :>> they
:>> :>> :>are - totally useless, inept frauds and crybabies who have to make
:>> up
:>> :>> their
:>> :>> :>own imbecile side show game because they can't stay in the real game
:>> :>> with
:>> :>> :>the big boys and girls.
:>> :>>
:>> :>>
:>> :>> :>hand out their awards irregardless
:>> :>> ^^^^^^^^
:>> :>
:>> :>
:>> :>So many illiterates; so little time!
:>> :>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
:>>
:>> Didn't you read your own cite? <smirk>
:>>
:>> " There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech,
:>> although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation
:>> has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general
:>> acceptance. Use regardless instead. "
:>>
:>> "...it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless
:>> instead. "
:>>
:>>
:>
:>"There is such a word, . . ."
I never said it wasn't, Dopey.
:>And it is any author's unilateral decision to
:>use words as he will.
Then perhaps another cite might be better for you to use in your defense
rather than the one chosen which recommends the usage of " regardless"
instead.
Do you even know the definition of "recommend?" Look it up.
--
Gregory Hall
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 21:45:12 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:25:10 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
wrote:

:>
:>"Sarah Ehrett" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
:>news:***@4ax.com...
:>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:41:48 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
:>> wrote:
:>>
:>> :>
:>> :>"Sarah Ehrett" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
:>> :>news:***@4ax.com...
:>> :>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:20:03 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
:>> <***@home.fake>
:>> :>> wrote:
:>> :>>
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>"Sarah Ehrett" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
:>> :>> :>news:***@4ax.com...
:>> :>> :>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:37:52 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
:>> :>> <***@home.fake>
:>> :>> :>> wrote:
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>> :> And here I am, perhaps the most intelligent, rational and
:>> logical
:>> :>> (not
:>> :>> :>> to mention well-spoken) :>individual on Usenet and the little
:>> :>> maggot-folk,
:>> :>> :>> left behind wannabes presume to attempt
:>> :>> :>> :>to treat with me - their infinite superior and not be shown for
:>> what
:>> :>> :>> they
:>> :>> :>> :>are - totally useless, inept frauds and crybabies who have to
:>> make
:>> :>> up
:>> :>> :>> their
:>> :>> :>> :>own imbecile side show game because they can't stay in the real
:>> game
:>> :>> :>> with
:>> :>> :>> :>the big boys and girls.
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>> And then entertained us with the following blundering laughriot:
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>> :>hand out their awards irregardless
:>> :>> :>> ^^^^^^^^
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>So many illiterates; so little time!
:>> :>> :>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
:>> :>>
:>> :>> Didn't you read your own cite? <smirk>
:>> :>>
:>> :>> " There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech,
:>> :>> although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its
:>> reputation
:>> :>> has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general
:>> :>> acceptance. Use regardless instead. "
:>> :>>
:>> :>> "...it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless
:>> :>> instead. "
:>> :>>
:>> :>>
:>> :>
:>> :>"There is such a word, . . ."
:>>
:>> I never said it wasn't, Dopey.
:>>
:>> :>And it is any author's unilateral decision to
:>> :>use words as he will.
:>>
:>> Then perhaps another cite might be better for you to use in your defense
:>> rather than the one chosen which recommends the usage of " regardless"
:>> instead.
:>
:>Do you even know the definition of "recommend?"

Yep. I also recognize you are fanny-ing about trying to save face.





----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Gregory Hall
2008-12-26 21:57:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sarah Ehrett
:>
:>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:41:48 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
:>>
:>> :>
:>> :>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:20:03 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
:>> :>>
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:37:52 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>> :> And here I am, perhaps the most intelligent, rational and
:>> logical
:>> :>> (not
:>> :>> :>> to mention well-spoken) :>individual on Usenet and the little
:>> :>> maggot-folk,
:>> :>> :>> left behind wannabes presume to attempt
:>> :>> :>> :>to treat with me - their infinite superior and not be shown for
:>> what
:>> :>> :>> they
:>> :>> :>> :>are - totally useless, inept frauds and crybabies who have to
:>> make
:>> :>> up
:>> :>> :>> their
:>> :>> :>> :>own imbecile side show game because they can't stay in the real
:>> game
:>> :>> :>> with
:>> :>> :>> :>the big boys and girls.
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>> :>hand out their awards irregardless
:>> :>> :>> ^^^^^^^^
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>So many illiterates; so little time!
:>> :>> :>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
:>> :>>
:>> :>> Didn't you read your own cite? <smirk>
:>> :>>
:>> :>> " There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech,
:>> :>> although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its
:>> reputation
:>> :>> has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general
:>> :>> acceptance. Use regardless instead. "
:>> :>>
:>> :>> "...it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless
:>> :>> instead. "
:>> :>>
:>> :>>
:>> :>
:>> :>"There is such a word, . . ."
:>>
:>> I never said it wasn't, Dopey.
:>>
:>> :>And it is any author's unilateral decision to
:>> :>use words as he will.
:>>
:>> Then perhaps another cite might be better for you to use in your defense
:>> rather than the one chosen which recommends the usage of " regardless"
:>> instead.
:>
:>Do you even know the definition of "recommend?"
Yep. I also recognize you are fanny-ing about trying to save face.
Save face? He heee! Hardly. I proved 'irregardless' was a word according
to an accepted authority. I refuted your contention that I shouldn't use it
because of another 'recommended' word. I showed you and that other
illiterate in a different thread who attempted to slam me with the same
invalid argument that it was, indeed, a word. Now, there is one more thing I
might teach you at this point. That is, if you would treat with me you
should first matriculate.
--
Gregory Hall
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 22:22:26 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:57:20 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
wrote:

:>
:>"Sarah Ehrett" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
:>news:***@4ax.com...
:>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:25:10 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
:>> wrote:
:>>
:>> :>
:>> :>"Sarah Ehrett" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
:>> :>news:***@4ax.com...
:>> :>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:41:48 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
:>> <***@home.fake>
:>> :>> wrote:
:>> :>>
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>"Sarah Ehrett" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
:>> :>> :>news:***@4ax.com...
:>> :>> :>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:20:03 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
:>> :>> <***@home.fake>
:>> :>> :>> wrote:
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>> :>"Sarah Ehrett" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
:>> :>> :>> :>news:***@4ax.com...

:>> :>> :>> :>> :>hand out their awards irregardless
:>> :>> :>> :>> ^^^^^^^^
:>> :>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>> :>So many illiterates; so little time!
:>> :>> :>> :>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>> Didn't you read your own cite? <smirk>
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>> " There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech,
:>> :>> :>> although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation
:>> :>> :>> has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general
:>> :>> :>> acceptance. Use regardless instead. "
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>> "...it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless
:>> :>> :>> instead. "
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>>
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>"There is such a word, . . ."
:>> :>>
:>> :>> I never said it wasn't, Dopey.
:>> :>>
:>> :>> :>And it is any author's unilateral decision to
:>> :>> :>use words as he will.
:>> :>>
:>> :>> Then perhaps another cite might be better for you to use in your defense
:>> :>> rather than the one chosen which recommends the usage of " regardless"
:>> :>> instead.
:>> :>
:>> :>Do you even know the definition of "recommend?"
:>>
:>> Yep. I also recognize you are fanny-ing about trying to save face.
:>>
:>
:>Save face? He heee! Hardly. I proved 'irregardless' was a word according
:>to an accepted authority. I refuted your contention that I shouldn't use it
:>because of another 'recommended' word.

I've never contended any such thing. My amusement continues to remain
your total lack of awareness that your * own cite* arsed your very
argument. I merely reposted that information for you and apparently it
still hasn't registered in your reptilian brain.

:>I showed you and that other illiterate in a different thread who attempted to slam me with the same
:>invalid argument that it was, indeed, a word.

I have never said " irregardless" is NOT a word. You keep wasting your
time arguing a non issue when your main concern should be that I used your
own cite to kick you in the arse.

:>Now, there is one more thing I might teach you at this point. That is, if you would treat with me you
:>should first matriculate.

<smirk>

Just an hour or so ago you were blubbering about how you were the most
brilliant poster on usenet. How quickly you've dissolved into an
intimidated loser turned wannabe bully.



----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
2008-12-27 00:23:55 UTC
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Post by Sarah Ehrett
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:25:10 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
Post by Gregory Hall
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:41:48 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
Post by Gregory Hall
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:20:03 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:37:52 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
Post by Sarah Ehrett
And here I am, perhaps the most intelligent, rational and
logical
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(not
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to mention well-spoken) :>individual on Usenet and the
little maggot-folk, left behind wannabes presume to attempt
Post by Sarah Ehrett
to treat with me - their infinite superior and not be
shown
for
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what
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they
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are - totally useless, inept frauds and crybabies who have
to
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make
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up
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their
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own imbecile side show game because they can't stay in the
real
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game
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with
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the big boys and girls.
hand out their awards irregardless
^^^^^^^^
So many illiterates; so little time!
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
Didn't you read your own cite? <smirk>
" There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in
speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited
prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is
still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless
instead. " "...it is still a long way from general acceptance.
Use
regardless instead. "
"There is such a word, . . ."
I never said it wasn't, Dopey.
Post by Gregory Hall
And it is any author's unilateral decision to
use words as he will.
Then perhaps another cite might be better for you to use in your
defense rather than the one chosen which recommends the usage of
" regardless" instead.
Do you even know the definition of "recommend?"
Yep. I also recognize you are fanny-ing about trying to save face.
Save face? He heee! Hardly. I proved 'irregardless' was a word
according to an accepted authority.
Do you understand the difference between "prescriptive" and
"descriptive"?

http://englishplus.com/news/news1100.htm
Post by Gregory Hall
I refuted your contention that I
shouldn't use it because of another 'recommended' word. I showed you
and that other illiterate in a different thread who attempted to slam
me with the same invalid argument that it was, indeed, a word. Now,
there is one more thing I might teach you at this point. That is, if
you would treat with me you should first matriculate.
Bryan A. Garner, the author of /Modern American Usage/, has this to say:

"irregardless.

"Irregardless," a semiliterate portmanteau word from "irrespective" and
"regardless," should have been stamped out long ago. But it's common
enough in speech that it has found its way into all manner of print
sources -- e.g.:

o "A similar result for the case of finitely repeated games establishes
that, irregardless [read 'regardless'] of whether the number of
repetitions is finite or infinite, the swing producer strategy is one
possible strategy for achieving profits." James M. Griffin & William S.
Neilson, "The 1985-86 Oil Price Collapse and Afterwards," Economic
Inquiry, Oct. 1994, at 543.

o "'The Senator's Daughter' shows Gotti has a promising career as a
storyteller -- irregardless [read 'regardless'] of her parentage." Oline
H. Cogdill, "Family May Blur New Author's Skill," Sun-Sentinel (Ft.
Lauderdale), 6 Apr. 1997, at D11.

o "[June] Booth . . . . decided to become a licensed educator, fosterer
and rescuer because of the group's philosophy, which maintains that all
rabbits are valuable as individuals, irregardless [read 'regardless'] of
breed, temperament, health or relationship to humans." Beth Martin,
"Commitment Is Key When Adopting Rabbit," Times-Picayune (New Orleans),
18 Mar. 2008, Slidell ', at 1.

Although this widely scorned nonword seems unlikely to spread much more
than it already has, careful users of language must continually swat it
when they encounter it."

Even my spellchecker flagged it.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

"You know you can indict a ham sandwich if you want to."
William J. Martini, Judge, United States District Court
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 19:23:13 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
You're right. I've been reading your posts in AUK. They're much more
interesting than the usual single-liner, profanity-laden crap the regulars
here think it's so clever of them to post.
Sometimes short and to the point is better.

Alas, in this nation we have managed to reduce complex issues, such as
politics, down to a sound bite and who can shout the loudest.

Once upon a time Usenet looked like it was an answer to better
communiations. Alas, that didn't happen ;(

--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
atlas bugged
2008-12-27 03:35:09 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
You're right. I've been reading your posts in AUK. They're much more
interesting than the usual single-liner, profanity-laden crap the regulars
here think it's so clever of them to post.
Nail>>>>head.
Post by Gregory Hall
And these AUK awards. What an even larger load of crap. A handful of fools
here actually spend their time nominating, tallying votes, rigging the
elections and posting the bogus results and they seem to think they are
worthy of some sort of praise for acting out in such an immature and
ignorant manner.
Nail>>>>head. Part deux.
Post by Gregory Hall
And, get this. Of the hundreds of different people who post here daily
they maybe manage to get 7 or 8 countable votes max for any of their
waste-of-space awards. They have a transgendered freak by the name of Miss
Pinku-Sensimilla (meaning 'without seeds' because he's got his nuts lopped
off). That alone should clue everybody in. A freaking eunuch administering
equally impotent awards. If it wasn't so sick it would be hilarious.
Trois. I only bother at all myself because some of them manage to overcome
impotence sufficiently to harm others.

And there's occasional entertainment via spectacular lameness.
Post by Gregory Hall
But, what is the very most funny thing of all is how a little cadre of
anus-faced misfits who call themselves the "cabal" or the "cabalistas"
actually think they can intimidate people by selecting victims to whom
they hand out their awards irregardless of the actual vote. You see, it's
all so transparent. Such a sham. They do these pitiful little kook awards
every month and on special occasions because they found out they had no
ability to act upon the stage of the theater of the mind that is Usenet
because their minds were sadly unprepared considering they never learned
how to read or write beyond maybe the 5th-grade level.
Some are computer-savvy, nonebut one is literate past 5th grade. It's why
junior-college, tenured-but-incompetent tranny-sue is the leader.
Post by Gregory Hall
You can count upon the fact that the better you are at written discourse
the more kook awards they will unload upon you because they are trying to
make up for the fact that they can't write a coherent paragraph or read
one with understanding.
I had better language ability before middle-school than the various
reprobates will ever have.
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 17:56:33 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:06:36 -0500, Karen Anderson
http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg socking as "Gregory
Hall" <***@home.fake> wrote:


Hahaha! Isn't it amazing that just as "Lumpy" and "Karen" wave bye-bye
we have "Gregory Hall " arrive to lift Karen's battle flag parroting all
the Karen/Lumpy comments and themes.

Karen, you can't hide because all your stalking creepiness and mental
illness oozes from each and every post you write under any name.

If you'd just been a little more subtle about it you might have gotten away
from it old girl.

HAW haw HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!


:>"Sarah Ehrett" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
:>news:***@4ax.com...
:>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:30:38 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
:>> wrote:
:>>
:>> :>> As far as me "teasing" her you may recall that you said that she was
:>> :>> legitimately insane a few days ago. You wrote a long piece about her
:>> :>> being an attention seeker and why she won two Usenet Kook Awards a few
:>> :>> months ago.
:>> :>
:>> :>But she ignored that one so I had to write another one that she couldn't
:>> :>resist answering. And when she answered it I was impressed with her
:>> :>normalcy.
:>>
:>> Do you think it's normal to send 40 pornographic pictures of yourself to a
:>> guy you've never met?
:>
:>I doubt Karen did that deed. Remember, she was raised Catholic and, as such,
:>it can be assumed that she is a moral person. (Back in her formative years -
:>40s and 50s - there still existed such things as moral behavior and the
:>virtues of minimizing sinful behavior.) The alleged mailed photos are
:>probably all just a ruse concocted by somebody trying to befuddle and
:>bebother her to distraction in an attempt to slander the woman because mere
:>words on the screen didn't get the job done.
:>
:>It didn't take me very long to discover that when it comes to Usenet it's
:>the lowbrow, illiterate types who can't properly utilized the English
:>language in a forum where such informed use is the prime requisite who often
:>resort to subterfuge on webpages and real life stalking behavior in a loony
:>attempt to buttress their impotence. Shame on you! It only took me a couple
:>of days to figure out what was really going on without having to do anything
:>but read and write here on Usenet. You might fool some folks but probably
:>fewer than you might think.

:>> Do you think it's normal to follow this same guy around and take pictures
:>> of him, pictures of he and his girlfriend, pictures of the guy's
:>> workplace,
:>> pictures of his home, etc...?
:>
:>It would be if she were a photographer. Don't photographers have the right
:>to take pictures in public? Or, it more likely is sombody else suckering you
:>into thinking she did it while laughing at how gullible you are.

:>> Is that normal behavior in your book?
:>>
:>> Would you find that type of behavior disturbing? Normal people do.
:>
:>Hell, if she wanted to take photos of me I'd let her. I'd even pose nude for
:>her if she indicated a desire to do some 'artsy' photos - no porn though.
:>What's the big deal with some dumb photos anyway? You sound like Barbara
:>Streisand filing a lawsuit because some survey company took aerial photos of
:>her house and published them along with thousands of others. Hey, grow up.
:>You just aren't as important as you might think in the scheme of things And
:>another thing. Calling yourself Sarah is dumb. You're obviously male.
:>Females don't act as agressively as you act.
:>
:>>
:>> :>It now appears that there a couple of people posting and
:>> :>attempting to make her appear to be some sort of kooky woman with mental
:>> :>issues and they do a good job of it on the surface and had me almost
:>> sucked
:>> :>in but I sure didn't see any indication of real kookery in her reply.
:>>
:>> There's a Bremerton PD Detective who'd vehemently disagree with your
:>> superficial assessment and conclusion.
:>>
:>
:>Whoop-de-doo! I'm sooooo impressed. Talk about a kook! You just admitted U R
:>1.
:>
:>> Enjoy your stay. :)
:>>
:>
:>I wouldn't be here if I wasn't enjoying it. Ha ha.



----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
Sean Monaghan
2008-12-26 05:11:13 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
Well Greg ... I can honestly say that I have no interest in her. I
prefer to date within the human species.
:-) Now, be nice . . .
Post by PyrateJohn
As far as me "teasing" her you may recall that you said that she
was legitimately insane a few days ago. You wrote a long piece
about her being an attention seeker and why she won two Usenet Kook
Awards a few months ago.
But she ignored that one so I had to write another one that she
couldn't resist answering. And when she answered it I was impressed
with her normalcy. It now appears that there a couple of people
posting and attempting to make her appear to be some sort of kooky
woman with mental issues and they do a good job of it on the surface
and had me almost sucked in but I sure didn't see any indication of
real kookery in her reply. I don't know her at all but from her
answers it would appear to me that she is perhaps a little
old-fashioned and probably raised Catholic but that sure doesn't
make her a kook or a mental case.
The reason I thought she was a kook at first is the way she spent so
much time rebutting posts only written to taunt her but she gave a
very rational explanation why she does that. And more power to her.
She seems to be holding her own pretty darned well.
Post by PyrateJohn
You also might check the history of the posts at alt.nuke.the.usa,
going back about 3-4 weeks. Anderson typically gets depressed
during the holidays, and she did the same thing this holiday. So
she was writing crap back and forth between her sock puppets (her
imaginary friends) about myself, a couple up in the Northwest, and
several other guys that she stalked. She only got "teased" because
after about 2 weeks of that nonsense we got tired of it. Now this
crap has spilled over to other newsgroups that don't want to hear
it (they have heard plenty from Anderson over the years) and I
don't blame them.
The creative use of sockpuppets indicates an advanced intellect. I,
myself, have been known to employ a sock or two from time to time.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ROFL. Gotta love these Christmas Confessions!

I hereby nominate Greg for the Eddddie Wollmann Rubber Turkey Award.

Seconds, anyone?
When one becomes bored with lesser intellects it's nice, on
occassion, to create and speak to an equal. And lots of folks get
depressed during the holidays. To do so is considered normal. As for
not wanting to read her posts that's plenty easy to do. Just don't
open them. But, admit it, you are curious about what she's writing
because she writes a lot about you and your friends so you open them
anyway. In a way it's flattering that a woman would spend so much
time communicating with you, don't you think?
Post by PyrateJohn
After this post I am trimming the groups to eliminate a few groups
that don't deserve to be disturbed.
Merry Christmas.
And a Merry Christmas to you, too.
--
http://www.caballista.org

COOSN-266-06-58907; Hammer of Thor - August 2005

Barbara Woodhouse Memorial "Dog Whistle" Award, Winning Trainer

Pierre Salinger Memorial "Hook, Line & Sinker" awards -
Mar-2005, Jul-2005, Aug-2005, Aug-2006, Feb-2007, Apr-2007
BaronLurk
2008-12-26 05:44:11 UTC
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On 26 Dec 2008 05:11:13 GMT, Sean Monaghan
<sneck replay of setup to punch line>
Post by Sean Monaghan
Post by Gregory Hall
The creative use of sockpuppets indicates an advanced intellect. I,
myself, have been known to employ a sock or two from time to time.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ROFL. Gotta love these Christmas Confessions!
I hereby nominate Greg for the Eddddie Wollmann Rubber Turkey Award.
Seconds, anyone?
A most deserving Christmas present to go along with the confessions.

SECONDED.
--
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COOSN-172-08-09865 | SKEP-TI-CULT #93-58926-861 | La Banda Errante
Dei Ruffiani SpinnWebe | Technical Advisor to the SKEP-TI-CULT Flying
Wedgie Away Team | Proprietor, SKEP-TI-CAL Labs, Polishers of MIRRORS
OF TRVTH since 1996.
Meat Plow
2008-12-27 07:34:56 UTC
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On 26 Dec 2008 05:11:13 GMT, Sean Monaghan
Post by Sean Monaghan
Post by Gregory Hall
The creative use of sockpuppets indicates an advanced intellect. I,
myself, have been known to employ a sock or two from time to time.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ROFL. Gotta love these Christmas Confessions!
I hereby nominate Greg for the Eddddie Wollmann Rubber Turkey Award.
Seconds, anyone?
Is it me or is this Hall fuckhead just a troll? I have a little
trouble believing this blatant stupidity.
John "C"
2008-12-27 08:43:40 UTC
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Post by BaronLurk
On 26 Dec 2008 05:11:13 GMT, Sean Monaghan
Post by Sean Monaghan
Post by Gregory Hall
The creative use of sockpuppets indicates an advanced intellect. I,
myself, have been known to employ a sock or two from time to time.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ROFL. Gotta love these Christmas Confessions!
I hereby nominate Greg for the Eddddie Wollmann Rubber Turkey Award.
Seconds, anyone?
Is it me or is this Hall fuckhead just a troll? I have a little
trouble believing this blatant stupidity.
How do you account for your blatant stupidity, Meat Spatula???
--
Your Pal,
HJ
R. Hickey
2008-12-26 15:33:04 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
When one becomes bored with lesser intellects it's nice,
on occassion,
Post by Gregory Hall
to create and speak to an equal [karen].
I tell you what. You give her your address and see what
happens. You'll
be "Kowed-under" in no time at all.

Needy, needy, needy and every bit of the psycho you now
seem to dispute.
I guarantee she is a world-class nut job.

Go ahead, give her your residence address and a phone
number. You'll
regret it the rest of your days...

Puma
Karen
2008-12-25 23:17:38 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Post by PyrateJohn
Ah, how sweet. Brings a, choke, tear to my eye.
Kinda gives me the creeps, considering that the crazy old broad has
been stalking me for something like 5 years, and a couple of other
guys for longer. Now it's Christmas, she's at home and alone, and
reading through old emails from years ago.
I don't know if she edited my comment or not, but at the time she was
writing to me she was telling me that she was depressed, and that she
wanted to commit suicide. So in that context, my telling her " And
you are very special to me, whether you see that or not these days. I
think that you are a charming woman, with all sorts of good
qualities. " was a kindness, but it sure as hell wasn't a romantic
interest or anything.
Kooky, kooky, kooky.
Sounds to me like you maybe you never really got over her.
One of his cats is named for me. He has many pictures online of two b/w
pirate windsocks I sent him as gifts about 6 years ago that he has kept
and displays to this day. I wonder if "Deb" knows what's going on when
he spends so much time on the computer. He convinces her he is
"working"... he's spending time with the woman he really wants, not her.

Perhaps
Post by Gregory Hall
it's time for you two to kiss and make up?? If she was THAT
undesirable as you attempt to portray her, wouldn't it make more
sense to just ignore her?
He has ignored THREE ex-wives and multiple "girlfriends" a lot better
than me.....whom he's never SEEN in person. There is something he
still thinks I have to offer him and he's not going to quit till he gets
it....must be "cheap thrills and free entertainment".....and all those
*woodys*.

Remember when you were just a little tyke
Post by Gregory Hall
in school and there was this little girl you liked but the only way
you could show it was to tease her unrelentlessly? Hmmmmmm!
Haha....you know, Greg, I have told others that very thing long ago and
realize that's what is going on. He's as immature as a little boy.
Some little boys tease the girls they like the most and make a big show
of how much they do NOT like her. They ignore a girl they don't like
but continually PESTER the one they do and the more she rejects him, the
more he picks on her. I can't understand that M.O. but I know it's a
common one. The more I KICK GILMER's ASS with the TRUTH, no matter how
unflattering it is to him, the more he seems to like it because ANY
attention from me is a thrill for him...he can't bear the "silent
treatment" and would much rather fight. I think that kind of behavior
in a 52 year old man is more serious than in a young BOY....and Gilmer
is demonstating his significant psychological decline as the years go on
and he continues to step up the pressure. I have asked him what I have
to do to get him to STOP but he won't reply and pretends he didn't
happen to read that. He reads EVERY other word that I write. Odd he
wouldn't have seen that?

He hasn't the COURAGE to "kiss and make up" by sending me a sincere
email. He just wants to PERFORM on the internet to get attention and to
be sadistic to me. Like a little boy who is a compulsive SHOW OFF. My
mother used to tell me the best way to handle a "show off" is to not
look at them and ignore them. I've tried that with PirateJohn Gilmer
for several years, but that doesn't work either!! Nothing does.

I picture him sitting at his keyboard with a *woody* when he's "tawkin'
to KAREN". When I decide to not acknowledge his bizarre behavior
directly, then he uses various nyms (including my own name) to get past
my kill-file to insist that I see what he writes and hopefully will
continue to reply to him. He continually tells me to "GO AWAY" (so he
can prance around on Usenet without my opposition to his lies and
revelations about him that I know are factual) but he wants just the
opposite. He NEVER wants this war with me to end. Never.

People have told me to not read what he writes. How is that supposed to
help me or change anything? Others see it....while my head is in the
sand. There HAS to be a better way to stifle this person after all
these years. I'm afraid he is the "Beast Who Wouldn't Die" and there
really is no end in sight....he will be the first human being to live
forever. He has promised to laugh and make fun of me even after I'm
dead.

The idiot can't even remember the nym I used when we exchanged thousands
of emails. I still use the same one while he has changed countless
times and has scores of them active.

It's clear that Gilmer is significantly delusional. Also, in denial and
projects everything negative about himself onto others...mostly me. He
grandstands and self-aggrandizes, spins everything to make himself look
good and others bad. Classic Narcissist and Sociopath. I have been
told by someone who has met him and seen him fly into more than one rage
at someone....that he is VERY capable to really getting into something
physically nasty. He carries a pistol. He has posted my home address
nearly 2000 times on Usenet, archived at Google, and invites
someone/anyone to visit and harm me. Why should I not be afraid of this
person? My only safety is distance and he can't manage to travel way up
here from where he is. But he's got a big inheritance coming and he
might decide to make a quick flight to "visit Karen" when he has the
money to buy a ticket. I feel the need to keep my eye on where he IS
as much as I can. I feel justifed to turn a shotgun on him if he ever
confronts me, but I don't want him bleeding all over my doorstep and
have the memory of him dying there. Him dying anywhere else is good
for me...

Karen
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 03:50:09 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:17:38 GMT, "Karen" <***@nospam.wa> wrote:

:> I have been
:>told by someone who has met him and seen him fly into more than one rage
:>at someone....that he is VERY capable to really getting into something
:>physically nasty. He carries a pistol.

And yet you continue to harass him and stalk him. If you truly believed
what you just wrote you'd be ignoring *EVERYTHING* he posts. Any Police
officer worth his salt would advise you to have no contact with such a
person, yet you follow him from newsgroup to newsgroup harassing him.
To do what your doing makes you either an idiot with a death wish or
completely insane.

He has posted my home address
:>nearly 2000 times on Usenet, archived at Google, and invites
:>someone/anyone to visit and harm me.

He's never told anyone to harm you, Sow. YOU OTOH have said he should be
beheaded.


Why should I not be afraid of this
:>person? My only safety is distance and he can't manage to travel way up
:>here from where he is.

Distance won't keep you safe, IF your accusations were true, but they're
not true Karen which is why you continue to feel emboldened to write these
outlandish fantasies.


But he's got a big inheritance coming and he
:>might decide to make a quick flight to "visit Karen" when he has the
:>money to buy a ticket. I feel the need to keep my eye on where he IS
:>as much as I can.

Your rationalization for stalking him even tho history has shown when you
were less than an hour away from him he couldn't be bothered to take 10
minutes to see you.

I feel justifed to turn a shotgun on him if he ever
:>confronts me, but I don't want him bleeding all over my doorstep and
:>have the memory of him dying there. Him dying anywhere else is good
:>for me...

You turn a shotgun on him and you will probably end up in jail for the rest
of your life. What a wonderful thing for the rest of society and those
on usenet who you have targeted for your stalking and abuse.

Hey PJ! Ya willing to take one for the team?????

< ducking and running...... LOLOL! >


:>Karen
:>


----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
PyrateJohn
2008-12-26 06:44:36 UTC
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Post by Sarah Ehrett
You turn a shotgun on him and you will probably end up in jail for the rest
of your life.   What a wonderful thing for the rest of society and those
on usenet who you have targeted for your stalking and abuse.
Hey PJ!   Ya willing to take one for the team?????  
< ducking and running...... LOLOL! >
Funny. I think that we know the answer there. At this point if Kow
were to show up it wouldn't be pretty for Old Odd Anderson, but as I
am sure you understand I would prefer to keep the specifics out of
Usenet ;)

--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-26 03:51:08 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:17:38 GMT, "Karen" <***@nospam.wa> wrote:

:> I wonder if "Deb" knows what's going on when
:>he spends so much time on the computer. He convinces her he is
:>"working"... he's spending time with the woman he really wants, not her.

Who is it that he truly wants Karen? Is it you???? :)

----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
ah
2008-12-26 04:13:55 UTC
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Post by Matthew Kruk
Ah, how sweet. Brings a, choke, tear to my eye.
Pardon?
--
/\_/|
=a-h=
\'I'|
|<|,,\_
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|[|,\_,,)
((J(=__/
meow
John "C"
2008-12-26 08:02:08 UTC
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Post by ah
Post by Matthew Kruk
Ah, how sweet. Brings a, choke, tear to my eye.
Pardon?
--
=a-h=
No pardon, the Governor says "fry em" !!
Post by ah
meow
You Pussy !!
--
Your Pal,
HJ
Sarah Ehrett
2008-12-25 20:53:38 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:15:52 GMT, "Karen"
<Loading Image...> wrote:

:>
:>----- Original Message -----
:>From: Karen
:>To: ***@aol.com
:>Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 10:34 AM
:>Subject: January 16, 2003 <remember this exchange?>

<snip sad pathetic post from lonely old mental case posting 24/7 from
Christmas Eve to throughout Christmas Day. >

Seriously Karen, if you take a bath there must be *someone* who will
tolerate your company on Christmas?

Most people conclude you post to flame groups because you love and can't
live without the negative attention and abuse.

----


" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
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