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Rob, I owe you and apology
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PyrateJohn
2009-01-05 16:17:04 UTC
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In light of recent developments, and in light of the conversation that
I had with the former Jose Gaspar, I think that you were absolutely
right in that Old Odd Anderson did not want a truce of any sort and,
in fact, would prefer to continue bitchin' and stalkin' to her dying
day if given a choice.

My apologies if you felt that I wasn't supporting your position.

You are a scholar and a gentleman. Or at least a scholar, right? ;)
Gregory Hall
2009-01-05 16:25:31 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
In light of recent developments, and in light of the conversation that
I had with the former Jose Gaspar, I think that you were absolutely
right in that Old Odd Anderson did not want a truce of any sort and,
in fact, would prefer to continue bitchin' and stalkin' to her dying
day if given a choice.
My apologies if you felt that I wasn't supporting your position.
You are a scholar and a gentleman. Or at least a scholar, right? ;)
A washed-up, dishwashing machine repairman a scholar? Bwahahhahahahhahaha.
--
Gregory Hall
Dean
2009-01-05 17:30:31 UTC
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In article <86707497-9db7-4d6e-893d-***@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
PyrateJohn says...
Post by PyrateJohn
In light of recent developments, and in light of the conversation that
I had with the former Jose Gaspar, I think that you were absolutely
right in that Old Odd Anderson did not want a truce of any sort
She won't stop until she's dead...
Gregory Hall
2009-01-05 17:49:32 UTC
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Post by Dean
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PyrateJohn says...
Post by PyrateJohn
In light of recent developments, and in light of the conversation that
I had with the former Jose Gaspar, I think that you were absolutely
right in that Old Odd Anderson did not want a truce of any sort
She won't stop until she's dead...
She's stopped for a week now. Maybe she'll prove you wrong. I hope she does
prove your wrong.
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Gregory Hall
Sarah Ehrett
2009-01-06 04:10:50 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Dean
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PyrateJohn says...
Post by PyrateJohn
In light of recent developments, and in light of the conversation that
I had with the former Jose Gaspar, I think that you were absolutely
right in that Old Odd Anderson did not want a truce of any sort
She won't stop until she's dead...
She's stopped for a week now. Maybe she'll prove you wrong. I hope she does
prove your wrong.
You better get a different news service sport. The one I have shows
multiple melt down posts from her that were non-stop from the day a
truce was proposed. She never shut her greasy fat yap for even one
hour.
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 04:32:27 UTC
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You better get a different news service sport.  The one I have shows
multiple melt down posts from her that were non-stop from the day a
truce was proposed.  She never shut her greasy fat yap for even one
hour
That kinda ties in to what Dean told me. Whereas we honestly thought
that a truce might be possible and she would just go away, Dean
indicated that throughout this nonsense (going back years I presume)
Anderson was writing email after email, page after page to him. And
that every second paragraph changed the subject to Yours Truly.

I believe this to be an accurate assessment of what Dean told me.
Clearly if he disagrees he is invited to comment otherwise.

Anderson is just totally obsessed with me, and I (and everyone else
here) could care less about her. And so, of course, she is going to
stalk and troll and generally act like an asshole to get everyone's
attention.

Sad.
Dean
2009-01-06 14:35:35 UTC
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In article <4246596c-5700-453f-8ee5-***@v4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
PyrateJohn says...
Post by PyrateJohn
You better get a different news service sport. =A0The one I have shows
multiple melt down posts from her that were non-stop from the day a
truce was proposed. =A0She never shut her greasy fat yap for even one
hour
That kinda ties in to what Dean told me. Whereas we honestly thought
that a truce might be possible and she would just go away, Dean
indicated that throughout this nonsense (going back years I presume)
Anderson was writing email after email, page after page to him. And
that every second paragraph changed the subject to Yours Truly.
I believe this to be an accurate assessment of what Dean told me.
Clearly if he disagrees he is invited to comment otherwise.
Anderson is just totally obsessed with me, and I (and everyone else
here) could care less about her. And so, of course, she is going to
stalk and troll and generally act like an asshole to get everyone's
attention.
Sad.
That's true. I tried unsuccessfully for years to persuade Karen to take up some
hobby - anything to get away from the computer. In our e-mails I would try to
get on some topic that she might have an interest in. I would start out writing
about some subject but I'll be damned if she wouldn't somehow relate that to
John. No matter what we wrote about, she would change the subject back to John.
There were several times when I just broke off communicating with her -
sometimes for many months, but then she would copy posts of John and e-mail them
to me. The idea of course was for me to start another flame war, which is
something that I derived some sort of sick pleasure from. <g>

She sent several e-mails to Deborah even though I warned her over and over to
keep the feud to usenet, but she wasn't satisfied with those limitations. I
don't think there's much she won't resort to, within her capabilities. She
couldn't get your attention, John, so she sent you those photos. Later, she
apologized for doing that but she is exactly like my ex-wife - she is aware of
the consequences of what she does, but she doesn't care at the time. Sarah said
Karen wrote her some nasty e-mails but Karen has always denied that she did.
She even wrote to me and swore that she never sent Sarah any e-mail messages.
What I can tell you is that my ex-wife, who is also bi-polar, did many vicious
things to me and she will swear on a stack of Bibles that she never did any of
them.

I have no doubt that she will send me something in the mail or contact my
ex-wife or contact my fiance or publish personal information about me to usenet.
Right now she feels justified in doing ANYTHING, and no one can stop her - no
one. I gave it my best shot in trying to broker peace between Karen and you,
John, but she turned on me like a viper, as you saw. She can never figure out
how everyone else "lands on their feet" while she gets pushed further back into
obscurity.
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 15:48:57 UTC
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Post by Dean
She sent several e-mails to Deborah even though I warned her over and over to
keep the feud to usenet, but she wasn't satisfied with those limitations.
That's interesting, because Deb, with about one exception, never even
mentioned Anderson's "anonymous" emails to me. Deb knows that
Anderson is crazier than batshit and has tried to set me up with
things like fake personal ads, fake ads to gay groups, and that sort
of thing.

Likewise Anderson's Wisconsin associate mail bombed my offices a
couple of times. After the first time when one or two emails got
through the only thing that I heard from higher up was to get them to
stop. So I put filters into the email system and that effectively
prevented their ability to send any email that mentioned my name or my
nyms.

I don't think that Anderson really understands how insane she looks to
people outside newsgroups. And the only reason that she thinks that
she looks halfway sane inside newsgroups is because you have so many
people ("Hall" being an example) who simply want to be contrary, or
who simply want to continue a fight. People like that don't represent
reality.

In the Real World it's not normal for an old woman to send a guy 40
photos of her and her vibrator. And no one is buying that those are
fakes or something found at random on the 'net, particularly when
there is a copy of Anderson's medical records and a postmark from
Bremerton included.

In the Real World it is incredibly creepy when someone follows a
person around for 2-3 days, quietly taking photographs of their
residence, their place of employment, their girlfriend, and so forth.

Dean, you commented on how hard it is to get the cops to take stalking
threats seriously, because they are overwhelmed. They certainly took
Anderson seriously, although it did take, bearing in mind that this
started years ago, a couple of attempts before I could find a
detective who was familiar with cyber stalking. But our local cops
were certainly prepared to tazer and lasso Anderson if she showed up
again.

Kook, kOOk, kooky. Anderson is one obsessed old woman.
RFH
2009-01-06 16:19:46 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
I don't think that Anderson really understands how insane she looks to
people outside newsgroups.
But I don't think she cares! She is an attention-junkie and any attention,
bad or otherwise, fills the sick addiction she has.

Interlopers like "Greg" just feed the fire for whatever reason (maybe he's
nuts, too?). His self-admitted "Smartest Man on USENET" comment could
qualify him.

Kow can "poor me, poor me" until the kows come home and Greg will enable
her with his support. It's a symbiotic relationship like a tick and a dog.
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 16:43:56 UTC
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Post by RFH
It's a symbiotic relationship like a tick and a dog.
I was thinking more in terms of a fly and cow manure, but I see your
point.
RFH
2009-01-06 22:33:19 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
Post by RFH
It's a symbiotic relationship like a tick and a dog.
I was thinking more in terms of a fly and cow manure, but I see your
point.
I knew that you would. I'm psychic. But I'm <plonked> how sad.
Gregory Hall
2009-01-06 22:59:34 UTC
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Post by RFH
Post by PyrateJohn
Post by RFH
It's a symbiotic relationship like a tick and a dog.
I was thinking more in terms of a fly and cow manure, but I see your
point.
I knew that you would. I'm psychic. But I'm <plonked> how sad.
Admit it. You miss Karen, don't you?
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 23:18:10 UTC
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Post by RFH
I knew that you would. I'm psychic. But I'm <plonked> how sad.
Admit it. You miss Karen, don't you?
Rob misses Old Odd Kow about like a hooker misses having a case of the
crabs. Vigilance against something doesn't equate to wanting to have
it again.
RFH
2009-01-07 15:01:42 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
Post by Gregory Hall
Post by RFH
I knew that you would. I'm psychic. But I'm <plonked> how sad.
Admit it. You miss Karen, don't you?
Rob misses Old Odd Kow about like a hooker misses having a case of the
crabs. Vigilance against something doesn't equate to wanting to have
it again.
Spoken like the philosopher and scholar that you are!
RFH
2009-01-07 15:00:52 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Post by RFH
Post by PyrateJohn
Post by RFH
It's a symbiotic relationship like a tick and a dog.
I was thinking more in terms of a fly and cow manure, but I see your
point.
I knew that you would. I'm psychic. But I'm <plonked> how sad.
Admit it. You miss Karen, don't you?
For the entertainment value, and the entertainment value aalone, yep. It's
the least expensive amusement one can find.

That flailing around and bellowing her "attacks" and such. Good stuff, good
stuff.
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 16:03:54 UTC
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 Sarah said
Karen wrote her some nasty e-mails but Karen has always denied that she did.
She even wrote to me and swore that she never sent Sarah any e-mail messages.
A couple of ladies at alt.obits wrote and told me that Anderson sent
them some really filthy emails, too. Although I dated one of two of
the gals that used to post there, Anderson was barking up the wrong
tree, so to speak, and picked the wrong ones.
I have no doubt that she will send me something in the mail or contact my
ex-wife or contact my fiance or publish personal information about me to usenet.
Right now she feels justified in doing ANYTHING, and no one can stop her - no
one.  I gave it my best shot in trying to broker peace between Karen and you,
John, but she turned on me like a viper, as you saw.  She can never figure out
how everyone else "lands on their feet" while she gets pushed further back into
obscurity.
I don't doubt for a second that Anderson will attack you. If there
is anything that I can do to help, just let me know.

My understanding is that Anderson stalked at least 4 or 5 other guys
and effectively ran them off the 'net. Rob and I have been the first
ones to not only stand up to her, but to effectively say that the Kow
has no clothing (in a manner of speaking).

Over the several years that she has tried to stalk me I'm still going
quite strong, and Rob is too. On the other hand you have had her turn
on you, I think that Lumpload has seen which way the wind blows and
may not be back, her associate from Wisconsin may be in poor health,
and one clown that she enlisted (Bill Schenley) turned out to be an ex-
con and a junkie and I understand that those revelations getting back
out on the 'net after all these years pretty well trashed his
marriage.

Long story short, Anderson leaves a trail of destruction behind her
for her misguided supporters to clean up. Which I can relate to,
having tried to help her myself at one time.

Like I said Dean, if she gives you any trouble let me know. Letters
and emails go a long way towards making people understand.
RFH
2009-01-06 16:12:56 UTC
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Post by Dean
The idea of course was for me to start another flame war,
which is something that I derived some sort of sick pleasure from. <g>
I like this guy!!! That is 'zactly the reason I would continue to bait the
old hag.

One, because she is soooooooo easy to bait and secondly because in off-
times, it serves as amusement to me.

OK, call me ugly but I, too derive some sick pleasure from it.
Dean
2009-01-06 17:08:43 UTC
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Post by RFH
Post by Dean
The idea of course was for me to start another flame war,
which is something that I derived some sort of sick pleasure from. <g>
I like this guy!!! That is 'zactly the reason I would continue to bait the
old hag.
One, because she is soooooooo easy to bait and secondly because in off-
times, it serves as amusement to me.
OK, call me ugly but I, too derive some sick pleasure from it.
Some years ago I got into a flame war with some of the guys in alt.war.vietnam.
Ron Egan used to post there sometimes too. When I was winning the flame war,
Egan came along and made me eat shit. GAWD, was that guy awesome! He ripped me
a new asshole. That's when Karen came to my defense and gave me a lot of
background information on Egan. That's her MO. She befriends folks, learns
everything she can about them, and then turns on them.

Wagner came over into AWV and was trying to dig up shit on Egan and I thought he
would help me out but he squirmed and slinked away when I stuck my neck out.
Yeah, I remember Confused, Griffin, Egan, and PuppetMaster. Egan is still
posting as one of the AUK guys but I'm not going to out him. He was with the
101st Airborne in Vietnam. I am also a Vietnam vet and post as 'dino' in AWV.

Anyway, I felt obligated to help Karen since she helped me but it never ended.
I told her off more than once and then she would get mad and stop e-mailing me,
but eventually she would start back again. That's typical of the bi-polar
disorder. She goes from mania to depression - sometimes within hours. She
trashed so many people in Wisconsin that she had to get out. She moved to
Washington and learned the wonders of usenet. Now she uses that to trash people
- instead of her neighbors.

Believe it or not, she's still waiting for everyone to apologize to her...
Heh...
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 17:58:59 UTC
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 That's her MO.  She befriends folks, learns
everything she can about them, and then turns on them.
If there really is a Lumpster, then he'd better put his house up for
sale and move on. Because she's going to be outside his window sooner
or later ... assuming that she hasn't gotten to him first.

Y'all might want to check out the Bremerton news. The next few weeks
could be interesting.
Lumpy
2009-01-06 18:26:41 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
 That's her MO.  She befriends folks, learns
everything she can about them, and then turns on them.
If there really is a Lumpster, then he'd better put his house up for
sale and move on.  Because she's going to be outside his window sooner
or later ... assuming that she hasn't gotten to him first.
Y'all might want to check out the Bremerton news.  The next few weeks
could be interesting.
I've read hours of the alias known as Dean Shultis, dino, Gaspar,
etc., on Google Groups archives. The situation in the Vietnam group
was particularly gruesome, 'troopervet', etc. This must be an example
of what the old man in Ecclesiastes was talking about, "nothing new
under the sun". There is literally no persona left unturned, no
behavior un-dreamed of.

I think I've come to some kind of understanding about a little bit of
the nature of the evil in this thing... something like this: The only
thing that ultimately ties someone to themselves is the fleeting
nature of what they believe their nature to be. When they can enter
anonymously into groups of real people and act with no strings
attached, act out every lie and phoniness and pretense with absolutely
no consequence, I think, I believe, it takes the basically flawed
nature of the pretender and breaks it into shards that can't be put
back together. This Gaspar/Shultis/troopervet/et al.... he feels no
shame or regret in having lived years within the company of men for
whom their life and history are vital, using his alias to pretend to a
relationship and history that never existed but that they, in their
generosity of spirit born of true experience, have chosen to see him
as an unfortunately mentally ill man who has always existed: the guy
who needs to pretend to be a soldier. They've been around since the
dawn of time. Since I never served in the military, I used to come
across these guys in the bars and I'd know they were liars and frauds
and couldn't understand why the real vets didn't take them out and
stomp their head into jello. Turns out that they had a much deeper
understanding of human nature than I did. As long as there have been
true soldiers, there have been wannabes. Goes with the territory, I
guess. So repulsive to actually watch them, tho. Both in a bar, and
in usenet.
Dean
2009-01-06 19:39:26 UTC
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In article <4994fda1-7c91-4ffd-9678-***@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Lumpy says...
Post by Lumpy
Post by PyrateJohn
=A0That's her MO. =A0She befriends folks, learns
everything she can about them, and then turns on them.
If there really is a Lumpster, then he'd better put his house up for
sale and move on. =A0Because she's going to be outside his window sooner
or later ... assuming that she hasn't gotten to him first.
Y'all might want to check out the Bremerton news. =A0The next few weeks
could be interesting.
he feels no
shame or regret in having lived years within the company of men for
whom their life and history are vital, using his alias to pretend to a
relationship and history that never existed but that they, in their
generosity of spirit born of true experience, have chosen to see him
as an unfortunately mentally ill man who has always existed: the guy
who needs to pretend to be a soldier. They've been around since the
dawn of time. Since I never served in the military, I used to come
across these guys in the bars and I'd know they were liars and frauds
and couldn't understand why the real vets didn't take them out and
stomp their head into jello.
You lose, Karen... AGAIN! Give it up! GO AWAY!

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Lumpy
2009-01-06 20:02:03 UTC
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Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
Dean
2009-01-06 20:16:12 UTC
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In article <fcbc95d7-2bac-42c9-ab19-***@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com>,
Lumpy says...
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Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
That's as good an exit as any, Karen... And stay away!
Gregory Hall
2009-01-06 20:42:54 UTC
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Post by Dean
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Lumpy says...
Post by Lumpy
Post by Dean
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Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
That's as good an exit as any, Karen... And stay away!
Delusional!!!! Lumpy isn't Karen. Get a clue. You idiots are so USED!

ROTFL!!!!
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 21:05:43 UTC
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Delusional!!!!  Lumpy isn't Karen. Get a clue. You idiots are so USED!
ROTFL!!!!
--
Gregory Hall
Hmmmmm ... Using the word "delusional." Unwavering, illogical
support of Anderson. Denial that a nym is Anderson, without
supporting a basis in fact. That bad "ROTFL" chortle.

That's about 76 points on the Karen Anderson Nym Scale. Sarah might
be right.
Gregory Hall
2009-01-06 21:44:05 UTC
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Delusional!!!! Lumpy isn't Karen. Get a clue. You idiots are so USED!
ROTFL!!!!
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Gregory Hall
| Hmmmmm ... Using the word "delusional." Unwavering, illogical
| support of Anderson. Denial that a nym is Anderson, without
| supporting a basis in fact. That bad "ROTFL" chortle.
|
| That's about 76 points on the Karen Anderson Nym Scale. Sarah might
| be right.


I do that on purpose. I'm a writer. It doesn't take me much observing to
write like somebody else. Yanking your collective chains is turnabout and
turnabout is fair play.
--
Gregory Hall
RFH
2009-01-06 22:17:33 UTC
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Delusional!!!!  Lumpy isn't Karen. Get a clue. You idiots are so USED!
ROTFL!!!!
--
Gregory Hall
Hmmmmm ... Using the word "delusional." Unwavering, illogical
support of Anderson. Denial that a nym is Anderson, without
supporting a basis in fact. That bad "ROTFL" chortle.
That's about 76 points on the Karen Anderson Nym Scale. Sarah might
be right.
There's a friggin' scale? Shit, I didn't know!
Ken Ehrett
2009-01-08 19:18:39 UTC
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:05:43 -0800 (PST), PyrateJohn
Post by PyrateJohn
Delusional!!!!  Lumpy isn't Karen. Get a clue. You idiots are so USED!
ROTFL!!!!
--
Gregory Hall
Hmmmmm ... Using the word "delusional." Unwavering, illogical
support of Anderson. Denial that a nym is Anderson, without
supporting a basis in fact. That bad "ROTFL" chortle.
That's about 76 points on the Karen Anderson Nym Scale. Sarah might
be right.
Sara and I are both right. There is no way this Gregory Hall
character is anything but her coming back in here with yet another
nym. Dean is absolutely correct when he says this bitch will never go
away. We have seen this exact same routine go down with the Jose
Gasper nym.
RFH
2009-01-08 22:08:44 UTC
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Sara and I are both right. There is no way this Gregory Hall
character is anything but her coming back in here with yet another
nym. Dean is absolutely correct when he says this bitch will never go
away. We have seen this exact same routine go down with the Jose
Gasper nym.
And speaking of ole "Jose". Where is he these days?

I always found it odd that this total stranger and newbie "Greg" came in
here and knew all the details (of which there are MANY, MANY) and had them
at his fingertips.

If he really *did* know all this stuff, his life must be REALLY, REALLY
boring and empty. (Hmmm, sound like anyone we know?) To stay long enough
for kow to fill him in on all the details and for him to actually care
(!!!) is nuts and pathetic, in itself.

Looks like another puppet. And the smartest person on USENET to boot!
PyrateJohn
2009-01-09 06:43:52 UTC
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Post by RFH
I always found it odd that this total stranger and newbie "Greg" came in
here and knew all the details (of which there are MANY, MANY)  and had them
at his fingertips.
If you think that "Greg" is a jerk, then the best revenge that we
could wish upon him is to imagine that he's now Anderson's email
buddy.
RFH
2009-01-09 14:51:39 UTC
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Post by RFH
I always found it odd that this total stranger and newbie "Greg" came in
here and knew all the details (of which there are MANY, MANY)  and had
them
Post by RFH
at his fingertips.
If you think that "Greg" is a jerk, then the best revenge that we
could wish upon him is to imagine that he's now Anderson's email
buddy.
Good idea! What better form of punishment? It's cruel ... and VERY unusual!
Dean
2009-01-06 21:11:01 UTC
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Lumpy says...
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Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
That's as good an exit as any, Karen... And stay away!
Delusional!!!! Lumpy isn't Karen.
And, your proof is?
Gregory Hall
2009-01-06 21:41:42 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Dean
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Lumpy says...
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Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
That's as good an exit as any, Karen... And stay away!
Delusional!!!! Lumpy isn't Karen.
And, your proof is?
My proof is a better understanding of Karen as a person by reading her posts
and asking her questions and noting that she is, indeed, a quite normal
though embattled, woman doing her best to stand up to a bunch of Usenet
bullies and psychos.

If you guys would take an unbiased approach free from your paranoid
thinking, you, too, would most likely see you are way out in left field.
--
Gregory Hall
Dean
2009-01-06 21:59:54 UTC
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Post by Dean
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Lumpy says...
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Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
That's as good an exit as any, Karen... And stay away!
Delusional!!!! Lumpy isn't Karen.
And, your proof is?
My proof is a better understanding of Karen as a person by reading her posts
and asking her questions and noting that she is, indeed, a quite normal
though embattled, woman doing her best to stand up to a bunch of Usenet
bullies and psychos.
The damsel is distress... yes, I felt compelled to help her fight off the
bullies and did so for over 8 years - even before John first started to e-mail
with Karen. I probably received over 10,000 e-mails from her during that time.
Karen also e-mailed John for two years with thousands of e-mails. If you think
you know more about Karen than we do, then go for it. She would love to hear
from you. She needs your sympathy and understanding. She needs to learn
everything there is to know about you, so she can stab you in the back...

Not a joke...
Gregory Hall
2009-01-06 22:07:14 UTC
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Post by Dean
Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Dean
Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Dean
In article
Lumpy says...
Post by Lumpy
Post by Dean
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/DSCN0015.jpg
Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
That's as good an exit as any, Karen... And stay away!
Delusional!!!! Lumpy isn't Karen.
And, your proof is?
My proof is a better understanding of Karen as a person by reading her posts
and asking her questions and noting that she is, indeed, a quite normal
though embattled, woman doing her best to stand up to a bunch of Usenet
bullies and psychos.
The damsel is distress... yes, I felt compelled to help her fight off the
bullies and did so for over 8 years - even before John first started to e-mail
with Karen. I probably received over 10,000 e-mails from her during that time.
Karen also e-mailed John for two years with thousands of e-mails. If you think
you know more about Karen than we do, then go for it. She would love to hear
from you. She needs your sympathy and understanding. She needs to learn
everything there is to know about you, so she can stab you in the back...
Not a joke...
I declined to give her my e-mail. Not because I don't trust her but just
because I don't want to mix Usenet and real life. Feel free to do so
yourself but don't run around whining when you suffer ill consequences. You
fellows don't seem to act much like men.

All your gossip, your whining and paranoia, your 'woe-is-me' victimhood
blather, it's very female of all of you. Man up already!!!
--
Gregory Hall
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 23:14:14 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
You
fellows don't seem to act much like men.
I dunno "gregory" ... you are hiding behind someone else's name, and
as far as we know the whole ball of wax about you being a cyclist and
living on a sailboat is complete and total bullshit.

Dean, Rob, Sarah and Ken know me well enough to tell you that you
aren't very likely to make a comment like that to my face ;)

Let me add, Mr. supposedly-manly-man, that at the very least you are
fucking clueless when it comes to Anderson.
RFH
2009-01-07 15:04:05 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
Post by Gregory Hall
You
fellows don't seem to act much like men.
I dunno "gregory" ... you are hiding behind someone else's name, and
as far as we know the whole ball of wax about you being a cyclist and
living on a sailboat is complete and total bullshit.
Dean, Rob, Sarah and Ken know me well enough to tell you that you
aren't very likely to make a comment like that to my face ;)
Let me add, Mr. supposedly-manly-man, that at the very least you are
fucking clueless when it comes to Anderson.
And to think that he's the Smartest Man on USENET! Self-admitted, but
still, ya gotta give it some credit.

Clueless when it comes to Andersen is an understatement!
Gregory Hall
2009-01-07 18:30:41 UTC
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Post by RFH
Post by PyrateJohn
Post by Gregory Hall
You
fellows don't seem to act much like men.
I dunno "gregory" ... you are hiding behind someone else's name, and
as far as we know the whole ball of wax about you being a cyclist and
living on a sailboat is complete and total bullshit.
Dean, Rob, Sarah and Ken know me well enough to tell you that you
aren't very likely to make a comment like that to my face ;)
Let me add, Mr. supposedly-manly-man, that at the very least you are
fucking clueless when it comes to Anderson.
And to think that he's the Smartest Man on USENET! Self-admitted, but
still, ya gotta give it some credit.
Clueless when it comes to Andersen is an understatement!
I have always been a good judge of character and there's nothing wrong with
Karen other than having been put on the defensive by chronic abusing
stalkers.
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2009-01-07 21:14:50 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
I have always been a good judge of character and there's nothing wrong with
Karen other than having been put on the defensive by chronic abusing
stalkers.
--
Gregory Hall
You seem to have missed the part about where she real life stalked a
couple of us. No one here is interested enough to do that to her.

I will say, however, that she has certainly met her match online these
days.

"Greg," you either aren't the sharpest tool in the drawer, or you are
being intentionally dense. Which is it?
Dean
2009-01-07 22:33:01 UTC
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In article <ecbf8570-a83c-483f-a090-***@s24g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
PyrateJohn says...
Post by PyrateJohn
I have always been a good judge of character and there's nothing wrong wi=
th
Karen other than having been put on the defensive by chronic abusing
stalkers.
--
Gregory Hall
You seem to have missed the part about where she real life stalked a
couple of us. No one here is interested enough to do that to her.
I will say, however, that she has certainly met her match online these
days.
"Greg," you either aren't the sharpest tool in the drawer, or you are
being intentionally dense. Which is it?
He's trolling...
PyrateJohn
2009-01-07 23:27:27 UTC
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"Greg,"  you either aren't the sharpest tool in the drawer, or you are
being intentionally dense.  Which is it?
He's trolling...  
With some pretty stinky bait at this point in the game ;)
Gregory Hall
2009-01-07 22:35:06 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
I have always been a good judge of character and there's nothing wrong with
Karen other than having been put on the defensive by chronic abusing
stalkers.
--
Gregory Hall
| You seem to have missed the part about where she real life stalked a
| couple of us. No one here is interested enough to do that to her.
|
| I will say, however, that she has certainly met her match online these
| days.
|
| "Greg," you either aren't the sharpest tool in the drawer, or you are
| being intentionally dense. Which is it?


What kind of a wimp would even admit in public that he was afraid of being
stalked by a 70-year-old woman? You poor things! Can't even handle a
relationship with an old woman. Is Karen going to grab you, rip your clothes
off, throw you to the ground and rape you? Bwwwhahahhahahahaha. If a man
cannot protect himself against an old woman then what kind of a man is he
really? Honestly you male Karen bashers should realize how pathetic you
sound trying to play the victim card.

And I won't even mention Sarah/Ken. Little crybabys all of you.

--
Gregory Hall
Sarah Ehrett
2009-01-08 01:07:07 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Gregory Hall
I have always been a good judge of character and there's nothing wrong
with Karen other than having been put on the defensive by chronic abusing
stalkers.
--
Gregory Hall
| You seem to have missed the part about where she real life stalked a
| couple of us. No one here is interested enough to do that to her.
|
| I will say, however, that she has certainly met her match online these
| days.
|
| "Greg," you either aren't the sharpest tool in the drawer, or you are
| being intentionally dense. Which is it?
To me, ALL of "Greg"'s posts read like Karen's. And here we see more
manifestations of Karen Anderson's warped thought processes.
Post by Gregory Hall
What kind of a wimp would even admit in public that he was afraid of being
stalked by a 70-year-old woman? You poor things! Can't even handle a
relationship with an old woman. Is Karen going to grab you, rip your clothes
off, throw you to the ground and rape you? Bwwwhahahhahahahaha.
In "Karen's " mind anyone who doesn't want her secretly following them
around taking their pictures, and doesn't want her arriving at their
domicile banging on their windows is a wimp.
Post by Gregory Hall
If a man cannot protect himself against an old woman then what kind of a man is he
really? Honestly you male Karen bashers should realize how pathetic you
sound trying to play the victim card.
And I won't even mention Sarah/Ken.
Good move, old girl. Dean confirmed that you are afraid of me. Ken
and I can take shots at you 24/7 and you're not going to respond.
Post by Gregory Hall
Little crybabys all of you.
Funny thing old girl, if you really had us all *PLONK* ed you wouldn't
be reading any of our comments. But we all know what the real truth
is don't we? :)
RFH
2009-01-08 14:58:40 UTC
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Post by Sarah Ehrett
Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Gregory Hall
I have always been a good judge of character and there's nothing
wrong with Karen other than having been put on the defensive by
chronic abusing stalkers.
--
Gregory Hall
| You seem to have missed the part about where she real life stalked a
| couple of us. No one here is interested enough to do that to her.
|
| I will say, however, that she has certainly met her match online
| these days.
|
| "Greg," you either aren't the sharpest tool in the drawer, or you
| are being intentionally dense. Which is it?
To me, ALL of "Greg"'s posts read like Karen's. And here we see more
manifestations of Karen Anderson's warped thought processes.
Post by Gregory Hall
What kind of a wimp would even admit in public that he was afraid of
being stalked by a 70-year-old woman? You poor things! Can't even
handle a relationship with an old woman. Is Karen going to grab you,
rip your clothes off, throw you to the ground and rape you?
Bwwwhahahhahahahaha.
In "Karen's " mind anyone who doesn't want her secretly following them
around taking their pictures, and doesn't want her arriving at their
domicile banging on their windows is a wimp.
Post by Gregory Hall
If a man cannot protect himself against an old woman then what kind of
a man is he really? Honestly you male Karen bashers should realize how
pathetic you sound trying to play the victim card.
And I won't even mention Sarah/Ken.
Good move, old girl. Dean confirmed that you are afraid of me. Ken
and I can take shots at you 24/7 and you're not going to respond.
Post by Gregory Hall
Little crybabys all of you.
Funny thing old girl, if you really had us all *PLONK* ed you wouldn't
be reading any of our comments. But we all know what the real truth
is don't we? :)
Yes we do!
Gregory Hall
2009-01-09 14:11:25 UTC
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Post by RFH
Post by Sarah Ehrett
Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Gregory Hall
I have always been a good judge of character and there's nothing
wrong with Karen other than having been put on the defensive by
chronic abusing stalkers.
--
Gregory Hall
| You seem to have missed the part about where she real life stalked a
| couple of us. No one here is interested enough to do that to her.
|
| I will say, however, that she has certainly met her match online
| these days.
|
| "Greg," you either aren't the sharpest tool in the drawer, or you
| are being intentionally dense. Which is it?
To me, ALL of "Greg"'s posts read like Karen's. And here we see more
manifestations of Karen Anderson's warped thought processes.
Post by Gregory Hall
What kind of a wimp would even admit in public that he was afraid of
being stalked by a 70-year-old woman? You poor things! Can't even
handle a relationship with an old woman. Is Karen going to grab you,
rip your clothes off, throw you to the ground and rape you?
Bwwwhahahhahahahaha.
In "Karen's " mind anyone who doesn't want her secretly following them
around taking their pictures, and doesn't want her arriving at their
domicile banging on their windows is a wimp.
Post by Gregory Hall
If a man cannot protect himself against an old woman then what kind of
a man is he really? Honestly you male Karen bashers should realize how
pathetic you sound trying to play the victim card.
And I won't even mention Sarah/Ken.
Good move, old girl. Dean confirmed that you are afraid of me. Ken
and I can take shots at you 24/7 and you're not going to respond.
Post by Gregory Hall
Little crybabys all of you.
Funny thing old girl, if you really had us all *PLONK* ed you wouldn't
be reading any of our comments. But we all know what the real truth
is don't we? :)
Yes we do!
The whole little group of you delusional and obsessed nut cases wouldn't
know the real truth if it smacked you upside your pimply faces.

ROTFL!!!!
--
Gregory Hall
RFH
2009-01-09 14:55:10 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
The whole little group of you delusional and obsessed nut cases wouldn't
know the real truth if it smacked you upside your pimply faces.
ROTFL!!!!
Say what?! We LIVED IT!!! I experienced IN PERSON the freak of nature known
as the stalking kow.

Your "troll / puppet-ism" is showing.
RFH
2009-01-08 14:57:43 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
What kind of a wimp would even admit in public that he was afraid of
being stalked by a 70-year-old woman?
When I got stalked she was 60 but told me she was 55. Ten years older than
me, She had mobility, I didn't and she outweighed me. Yes, she had the
advantage.
Post by Gregory Hall
Is Karen going to grab you,
rip your clothes off, throw you to the ground and rape you?
The thought crossed my mind. She drove 2500 (that's TWO THOUSAND FIVE
HUNDRED miles to get to me ... uninvited so I knew not her reason) so
getting stabbed or hit certainly crossed my mind.

Who does stupid shit like that?!
PyrateJohn
2009-01-08 15:41:33 UTC
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Post by RFH
When I got stalked she was 60 but told me she was 55. Ten years older than
me
That's funny, because when she sent me her medical records she crossed
out her birth date. I didn't notice that until fairly recently and
didn't care because I didn't think about her in the capacity that she
claimed, but Old Anderson was clearly playing some games.
Post by RFH
Who does stupid shit like that?!
Perhaps as fundamentally, there are five folks here with a long
history with Anderson and we are all saying that she is literally
psycho. The Greg Hall nym is a johnny-come-lately and doesn't have
the experience with Anderson that we do. "Clueless" is a nice way of
putting things.
Gregory Hall
2009-01-09 14:21:10 UTC
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Post by RFH
When I got stalked she was 60 but told me she was 55. Ten years older than
me
: That's funny, because when she sent me her medical records she crossed
: out her birth date. I didn't notice that until fairly recently and
: didn't care because I didn't think about her in the capacity that she
: claimed, but Old Anderson was clearly playing some games.


Stupid assumption. Most normal women like to keep their age a secret. Most
normal men know that to ask a woman her age is insensitive.
Post by RFH
Who does stupid shit like that?!
: Perhaps as fundamentally, there are five folks here with a long
: history with Anderson and we are all saying that she is literally
: psycho. The Greg Hall nym is a johnny-come-lately and doesn't have
: the experience with Anderson that we do. "Clueless" is a nice way of
: putting things.


A handful of paranoid, delusional conspiracy believers who feed off each
other's insecurities defining "clueless?"

ROTFL!!!! Come on, get serious. And thanks for the laugh. :')
--
Gregory Hall
Ken Ehrett
2009-01-08 18:48:32 UTC
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Post by RFH
Post by Gregory Hall
What kind of a wimp would even admit in public that he was afraid of
being stalked by a 70-year-old woman?
When I got stalked she was 60 but told me she was 55. Ten years older than
me, She had mobility, I didn't and she outweighed me. Yes, she had the
advantage.
Post by Gregory Hall
Is Karen going to grab you,
rip your clothes off, throw you to the ground and rape you?
The thought crossed my mind. She drove 2500 (that's TWO THOUSAND FIVE
HUNDRED miles to get to me ... uninvited so I knew not her reason) so
getting stabbed or hit certainly crossed my mind.
Who does stupid shit like that?!
Rob, you are absolutely right to be concerned about a crazy old hag
showing up unannounced banging on your windows demanding an audience.
For all you know she could have thrown a cup of gasoline on you and
lit you on fire. Your mistake was to tolerate the loon instead of
immediately calling the police and having her arrested for
trespassing.
PyrateJohn
2009-01-08 18:59:15 UTC
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Post by Ken Ehrett
Rob, you are absolutely right to be concerned about a crazy old hag
showing up unannounced banging on your windows demanding an audience.
For all you know she could have thrown a cup of gasoline on you and
lit you on fire.
I have told a couple of folks that I was concerned that she'd show up
somewhere with a knife. I am pretty vigilant when I am speaking or
conducting meetings about unrecognized heavyset older women. I do
think that the old broad is a loon and potentially dangerous.

With the five of us sticking together I would think that there would
be less likelihood of her threatening anything and actually getting
away with it, because we will all contact the cops at the same time.
Post by Ken Ehrett
 Your mistake was to tolerate the loon instead of
immediately calling the police and having her arrested for
trespassing.  
She skated when she sent me those porn photos because I didn't contact
the authorities quickly enough. See my comments above - if she tries
to harass any of us again we need to get on the phone to the cops
ASAP.
Gregory Hall
2009-01-09 14:25:19 UTC
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Post by Ken Ehrett
Rob, you are absolutely right to be concerned about a crazy old hag
showing up unannounced banging on your windows demanding an audience.
For all you know she could have thrown a cup of gasoline on you and
lit you on fire.
: I have told a couple of folks that I was concerned that she'd show up
: somewhere with a knife. I am pretty vigilant when I am speaking or
: conducting meetings about unrecognized heavyset older women. I do
: think that the old broad is a loon and potentially dangerous.
:
: With the five of us sticking together I would think that there would
: be less likelihood of her threatening anything and actually getting
: away with it, because we will all contact the cops at the same time.

Five obvious nut cases and you think there's security in numbers. <LOL>

No policeman unless he's smoking crack is going to take you crazies
seriously.
--
Gregory Hall
Post by Ken Ehrett
Your mistake was to tolerate the loon instead of
immediately calling the police and having her arrested for
trespassing.
She skated when she sent me those porn photos because I didn't contact
the authorities quickly enough. See my comments above - if she tries
to harass any of us again we need to get on the phone to the cops
ASAP.
Gregory Hall
2009-01-08 21:18:10 UTC
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Post by Ken Ehrett
Post by RFH
Post by Gregory Hall
What kind of a wimp would even admit in public that he was afraid of
being stalked by a 70-year-old woman?
When I got stalked she was 60 but told me she was 55. Ten years older than
me, She had mobility, I didn't and she outweighed me. Yes, she had the
advantage.
Post by Gregory Hall
Is Karen going to grab you,
rip your clothes off, throw you to the ground and rape you?
The thought crossed my mind. She drove 2500 (that's TWO THOUSAND FIVE
HUNDRED miles to get to me ... uninvited so I knew not her reason) so
getting stabbed or hit certainly crossed my mind.
Who does stupid shit like that?!
Rob, you are absolutely right to be concerned about a crazy old hag
showing up unannounced banging on your windows demanding an audience.
For all you know she could have thrown a cup of gasoline on you and
lit you on fire. Your mistake was to tolerate the loon instead of
immediately calling the police and having her arrested for
trespassing.
Rob right? That's a laugh. Oh, my aching sides... Hickey's the one (more
like one half actually) who started the whole cyber sex thing. Talked like
some big handsome stud or something. (Karen tells me he writes porno pretty
well.)Then when Karen answered his invitation to check him out and maybe
take him up on some sex fantasies what did he do? He FREAKED!!!! Yes,
that's right, freaked like a little 'fraidy-cat. All talk and no action!!!

When he got over his panic attack and embarrassment at being discovered as a
fake he didn't do what any normal man would do - apologize for the
deception. Noooooo!!! He immediately started in with the lies. Trying to
save face in his own mind - such as it is - warped, totally warped. Such a
long trip for nothing. All for nothing because of a coward.

Rob should have been pleased that any woman would come so far just to visit.
His erratic behavior was a shock. Insulting. Rude. Crass. No manners at all.
Uncivilized behavior. What a loser!!!!

LOL!!!! Karen was such a gullible fool. Never again she tells me.
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2009-01-08 22:01:09 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
LOL!!!! Karen was such a gullible fool. Never again she tells me.
--
Interesting comment. What do you say, folks? Is "Hall" a fool, or a
sock puppet? I vote for fool, but not by a large margin.



As an aside, I was reading a bit about Stuart Goddard, a/k/a 80's rock
singer Adam Ant, and his two stalkers. It just gives you an idea of
how nutty the Karen Anderson's of this world are:




"Then I got a stalker. Then I had to leave.'

Ruth Marie Torres had begun writing letters to Adam Ant in 1989. At
first, it just seemed like any other fan mail. But gradually the
letters became more intense: you're the one for me; only you
understand me. Then they became menacing. Things started to disappear
from the house. She poisoned his fish-pond; tried to kill his dogs.
She began appearing in the street outside his house, naked, shouting
obscenities. She said she was going to marry him and then castrate
him. Any women who visited him, Torres followed home.

One night in August 1994, he arrived home, petted the dogs and made a
cup of tea. All the lights in the house were off. When he turned and
looked across the kitchen, he saw a cake on the table, and, with it, a
voodoo doll. With the doll was a note. It read: 'Get the whores out of
the house.'

Adam Ant had six-and-a-half-foot spiked fences erected around the
house. He stopped sleeping. The LAPD advised him to capture Torres'
threats on video. When he finally managed to get her on camera, she
told him her whole story.

'What she said was that she had gone to a school dance when she was
18. A van had stopped. Her friend took the lift, she didn't. The next
time she saw her friend it was to identify her body, stripped of her
skin, on a slab. And it had flipped her. But by that stage I didn't
give a toss about any of it. She was driving me round the twist.'

Torres had told her mother that Adam Ant had proposed to her; that the
things she'd stolen from the house were gifts he had given her. The
police arrested her and jailed her for a month. She was put on
medication and issued with a restraining order. "


<snip>


" And he had acquired another stalker. She had begun turning up on
his doorstep, day and night. She sent him photographs and wedding
rings, convinced they were married. She tried to attack him. After
four years, and worried for the safety of his daughter, he called the
police. The woman was arrested in November last year. "
RFH
2009-01-08 22:00:32 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Rob should have been pleased that any woman would come so far just to
visit. His erratic behavior was a shock. Insulting. Rude. Crass. No
manners at all. Uncivilized behavior. What a loser!!!!
For once, you're absolutely right! Kow WAS all those things -- erratic,
rude, crass and no manners. (Who drives 2500 miles across country to sneak
up on someone not interested and not expecting you? And after you told him
to get fucked? Why would I expect such a psycho to show up?
Post by Gregory Hall
LOL!!!! Karen was such a gullible fool. Never again she tells me.
Careful, "Gregory." You're a Johnny-come-lately to this picnic and don't
know all the facts.

When you post your little "brain farts" you just look dumb ... and
gullible. You're operating on one-sided nfo. And you think kow was
gullible, look at yourself.

And whaddaya mean "was"? She still IS gullible! She is confiding in a
total, made up stranger to fill with her bullshit. And you're buying it!!!

Pot <--> kettle
Emo Haircut
2009-01-09 06:08:39 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Karen tells me
Karen was such a gullible fool. Never again she tells me.
<snicker>
--
I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left
RFH
2009-01-08 21:50:46 UTC
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Rob ... Your mistake was to tolerate the loon instead of
immediately calling the police and having her arrested for
trespassing.
Well, at that point in time, things hadn't escalated like they have since.
I had gotten a "Get Fucked!" email and figured that would be the end of it.

Au contraire! I didn't expect the visit after that email and the distance
involved. Who knew she was TOTALLY insane? And mobile?

I figured to just get it over with and probably couldn't have gotten to the
phone to *make* a call. I got to it to answer, and pretended it was a guy I
used to work with to try and keep myself from getting her ire up.

Little did I know she would NOT be denied and not leave. The story has been
posted numerous times.

Now, it just evokes yawns and laughter at the imbecility of kow/stalker. I
might post it anew in a slightly different form if I get the urge to jerk
her chain. (This will be a GOOD one!)
Gregory Hall
2009-01-09 14:14:46 UTC
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Post by RFH
Post by Gregory Hall
What kind of a wimp would even admit in public that he was afraid of
being stalked by a 70-year-old woman?
When I got stalked she was 60 but told me she was 55. Ten years older than
me, She had mobility, I didn't and she outweighed me. Yes, she had the
advantage.
Post by Gregory Hall
Is Karen going to grab you,
rip your clothes off, throw you to the ground and rape you?
The thought crossed my mind. She drove 2500 (that's TWO THOUSAND FIVE
HUNDRED miles to get to me ... uninvited so I knew not her reason) so
getting stabbed or hit certainly crossed my mind.
Who does stupid shit like that?!
Why are you so insecure, Rob? Or is it paranoia? Is it because you have a
guilty conscience? Or perhaps you really DO realize how irrationally you
acted so you overcompensated for your odd, anti-social behavior?
--
Gregory Hall
Ken Ehrett
2009-01-08 18:43:30 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Gregory Hall
I have always been a good judge of character and there's nothing wrong with
Karen other than having been put on the defensive by chronic abusing
stalkers.
--
Gregory Hall
| You seem to have missed the part about where she real life stalked a
| couple of us. No one here is interested enough to do that to her.
|
| I will say, however, that she has certainly met her match online these
| days.
|
| "Greg," you either aren't the sharpest tool in the drawer, or you are
| being intentionally dense. Which is it?
What kind of a wimp would even admit in public that he was afraid of being
stalked by a 70-year-old woman? You poor things! Can't even handle a
relationship with an old woman. Is Karen going to grab you, rip your clothes
off, throw you to the ground and rape you? Bwwwhahahhahahahaha. If a man
cannot protect himself against an old woman then what kind of a man is he
really? Honestly you male Karen bashers should realize how pathetic you
sound trying to play the victim card.
And I won't even mention Sarah/Ken. Little crybabys all of you.
No one here has ever even hinted that they are afraid of the skanky
old hag. The word you are looking for that fits is disgust.
Dean
2009-01-07 22:30:31 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Post by RFH
Post by PyrateJohn
Post by Gregory Hall
You
fellows don't seem to act much like men.
I dunno "gregory" ... you are hiding behind someone else's name, and
as far as we know the whole ball of wax about you being a cyclist and
living on a sailboat is complete and total bullshit.
Dean, Rob, Sarah and Ken know me well enough to tell you that you
aren't very likely to make a comment like that to my face ;)
Let me add, Mr. supposedly-manly-man, that at the very least you are
fucking clueless when it comes to Anderson.
And to think that he's the Smartest Man on USENET! Self-admitted, but
still, ya gotta give it some credit.
Clueless when it comes to Andersen is an understatement!
I have always been a good judge of character and there's nothing wrong with
Karen other than having been put on the defensive by chronic abusing
stalkers.
If you were even half a man you would send her an e-mail to cheer her up... Why
waste your words on despicable folks like us?
Send her an e-mail, Greg...
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 22:14:03 UTC
Permalink
 If you think
you know more about Karen than we do, then go for it.  
More fundamentally, if a person thinks that Anderson is sane or even
emotionally normal, then they either haven't been listening, or aren't
playing with a full deck themselves.

The Hall nym most likely really doesn't know and doesn't care. He's/
It's just trying to be contrary. That's why he is a multiple kOOk
Award winner.

As for Anderson, well ... she may have pissed off a ton of people and
I may think of her as being somewhere between an intellectual
curiosity and someone to be pity'd, but there isn't a soul that has
had any contact with her that would want to be in her shoes.
Ken Ehrett
2009-01-08 19:23:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Dean
Post by Gregory Hall
Post by Dean
In article
Lumpy says...
Post by Lumpy
Post by Dean
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/DSCN0015.jpg
Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
That's as good an exit as any, Karen... And stay away!
Delusional!!!! Lumpy isn't Karen.
And, your proof is?
My proof is a better understanding of Karen as a person by reading her posts
and asking her questions and noting that she is, indeed, a quite normal
though embattled, woman doing her best to stand up to a bunch of Usenet
bullies and psychos.
If you guys would take an unbiased approach free from your paranoid
thinking, you, too, would most likely see you are way out in left field.
Karen herself has "ADMITTED" to using the Lumpy nym as well as the
Gaspar nym. I'd say her own confession trumps your idiotic
observations of a bi-polar mental case posting nonsense on Usenet.
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 20:36:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lumpy
Post by Dean
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/DSCN0015.jpg
Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
"Dangerous" eh? And this comes from an old woman who has stalked
several men.

Hmmmmm ...
Dean
2009-01-06 21:06:39 UTC
Permalink
In article <2e3ab8c4-9a1e-4bc6-acea-***@c36g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
PyrateJohn says...
Post by PyrateJohn
Post by Lumpy
Post by Dean
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/DSCN0015.jpg
Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
"Dangerous" eh? And this comes from an old woman who has stalked
several men.
Hmmmmm ...
When she gets mad she forgets what nym she's supposed to be... Lumpy is
supposed to be dying of cancer but he's worried about me being dangerous???

Heh... Only Karen would be worried about that. That was what she always said
of you, John. That you were dangerous. She wrote it a thousand times.

When Karen first introduced this Lumpy nym to me, I thought it was her, but as
time when on she kept talking about him as if he was another person. It took me
a couple of months but she finally convinced me that Lumpy was a man who lives
on Bainbridge Island. Now that Karen has slipped up and proved that she was
Lumpy all along, the similarities between the two are uncanny: Both love
Washington and hate Florida. Both IP addresses trace back to Bremerton. Both
go to the same coffee shop where Karen used to work. Both think that older
women don't have sex appeal. Both are Catholics. When reminiscing about their
childhood, both talk about the exact same time period. Both have great love for
cats. Both hate dogs. Both have cancer.

Do I need to list any more similarities?

We have another Cybil on our hands here, folks... Anyone want to guess what her
next move is going to be?
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 21:41:30 UTC
Permalink
Heh...  Only Karen would be worried about that.  That was what she always said
of you, John.  That you were dangerous.  She wrote it a thousand times.
I am dangerous ;)
When Karen first introduced this Lumpy nym to me, I thought it was her, but as
time when on she kept talking about him as if he was another person.  It took me
a couple of months but she finally convinced me that Lumpy was a man who lives
on Bainbridge Island.  Now that Karen has slipped up and proved that she was
Lumpy all along, the similarities between the two are uncanny:  Both love
Washington and hate Florida.  Both IP addresses trace back to Bremerton.  Both
go to the same coffee shop where Karen used to work.  Both think that older
women don't have sex appeal.  Both are Catholics.  When reminiscing about their
childhood, both talk about the exact same time period.  Both have great love for
cats.  Both hate dogs.  Both have cancer.
Do I need to list any more similarities?
We have another Cybil on our hands here, folks...  Anyone want to guess what her
next move is going to be?
Anderson is nutty, and has demonstrated multiple personalities in real
life (ask Rob). Nuttin' surprises me any more.

Basically, unless a nym can demonstrate that they aren't Anderson, and
that demonstration has to go wayyyyyyyyyyyy beyond a proclamation that
everyone else is crazy (typical Kow nonsense), it's usually safe to
assume that they are Crazy Old Kow.

The sudden ability of "Lumpy" to be some sort of Internet Sleuth and
then to find all sorts of supposed dirt about you (sorta ignoring any
good stuff which I am sure is out there) is typical Anderson.
Gregory Hall
2009-01-06 21:51:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dean
In article
PyrateJohn says...
Post by PyrateJohn
Post by Lumpy
Post by Dean
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/DSCN0015.jpg
Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
"Dangerous" eh? And this comes from an old woman who has stalked
several men.
Hmmmmm ...
When she gets mad she forgets what nym she's supposed to be... Lumpy is
supposed to be dying of cancer but he's worried about me being
dangerous???
Heh... Only Karen would be worried about that. That was what she always said
of you, John. That you were dangerous. She wrote it a thousand times.
When Karen first introduced this Lumpy nym to me, I thought it was her, but as
time when on she kept talking about him as if he was another person. It took me
a couple of months but she finally convinced me that Lumpy was a man who lives
on Bainbridge Island. Now that Karen has slipped up and proved that she was
Lumpy all along, the similarities between the two are uncanny: Both love
Washington and hate Florida. Both IP addresses trace back to Bremerton.
Both
go to the same coffee shop where Karen used to work. Both think that older
women don't have sex appeal. Both are Catholics. When reminiscing about their
childhood, both talk about the exact same time period. Both have great love for
cats. Both hate dogs. Both have cancer.
Do I need to list any more similarities?
We have another Cybil on our hands here, folks... Anyone want to guess what her
next move is going to be?
Seems to me she's already made her next move. Or maybe you haven't noticed
the obvious. She binned all you stalkers, greasy, floor-crawling, dishwasher
repairmen, fake purple heart war vets (I guess you threw your medals over
the White House fence, protesting the war, too, "Dean"?) and Gilmer the
lying turncoat. And I won't even mention Sarah/Ken.

Have a nice day, y'all.
--
Gregory Hall
--
Gregory Hall
Sarah Ehrett
2009-01-07 04:04:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gregory Hall
And I won't even mention Sarah/Ken.
D'oh! Ya just did ya goofy bollocks juggler.
RFH
2009-01-06 22:28:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dean
We have another Cybil on our hands here, folks... Anyone want to
guess what her next move is going to be?
Don't know what it's *gonna* be, but I'm pulling for it being that she make
ole "Greg" her BFF and launch the kow-email-campaign-deluge. Seems fitting.
Ken Ehrett
2009-01-08 19:15:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lumpy
Post by Dean
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/DSCN0015.jpg
Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
Oh for fucks sake you crazy old hag! Stop with the "everything is
photo shopped or faked" line. That is rock solid proof that Dean is a
Vietnam veteran. He's a VFW member and 62 years old you fool!
Sarah Ehrett
2009-01-09 01:15:01 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:15:20 -0500, Ken Ehrett <***@olg.com> wrote:

:>On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:02:03 -0800 (PST), Lumpy <***@gmail.com>
:>wrote:
:>
:>>On Jan 6, 11:39 am, Dean <***@newsguy.com> wrote:
:>>
:>>>
:>>> http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/DSCN0015.jpg
:>>
:>>Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
:>>to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
:>>dangerous.
:>
:>Oh for fucks sake you crazy old hag! Stop with the "everything is
:>photo shopped or faked" line. That is rock solid proof that Dean is a
:>Vietnam veteran. He's a VFW member and 62 years old you fool!

Karen can't imagine anyone actually being who they say they are
because her own life is one big lie. She's a fraud and a liar and
thinks everyone else is the same.
RFH
2009-01-09 14:52:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sarah Ehrett
:>
:>>
:>>>
:>>> http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/DSCN0015.jpg
:>>
:>>Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
:>>to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
:>>dangerous.
:>
:>Oh for fucks sake you crazy old hag! Stop with the "everything is
:>photo shopped or faked" line. That is rock solid proof that Dean is a
:>Vietnam veteran. He's a VFW member and 62 years old you fool!
Karen can't imagine anyone actually being who they say they are
because her own life is one big lie. She's a fraud and a liar and
thinks everyone else is the same.
BINGO!!! Projection at its highest level. Nail on the head.
Gregory Hall
2009-01-08 21:21:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ken Ehrett
Post by Lumpy
Post by Dean
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/DSCN0015.jpg
Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
dangerous.
Oh for fucks sake you crazy old hag! Stop with the "everything is
photo shopped or faked" line. That is rock solid proof that Dean is a
Vietnam veteran. He's a VFW member and 62 years old you fool!
Means nothing. Any one of you could have gotten the photo off the web and
post using his name. Fits your M.O.
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2009-01-09 18:59:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gregory Hall
Means nothing. Any one of you could have gotten the photo off the web and
post using his name. Fits your M.O.
--
Funny, since Old Odd Anderson was trying so hard to convince us that
Jose was legit just a few short weeks ago.

I guess that when you live in Andersonland reality is a fluid concept.
Sarah Ehrett
2009-01-10 01:45:11 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:59:02 -0800 (PST), PyrateJohn
<***@gmail.com> wrote:

:>On Jan 8, 3:21 pm, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake> wrote:
:>
:>
:>
:>>
:>> Means nothing. Any one of you could have gotten the photo off the web and
:>> post using his name. Fits your M.O.
:>>
:>> --
:>
:>
:>
:>Funny, since Old Odd Anderson was trying so hard to convince us that
:>Jose was legit just a few short weeks ago.
:>
:>I guess that when you live in Andersonland reality is a fluid concept.

Does "Greg" really think anyone believes his, " I'm not Karen" story?
Gregory Hall
2009-01-10 01:59:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sarah Ehrett
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:59:02 -0800 (PST), PyrateJohn
:>
:>
:>
:>>
:>> Means nothing. Any one of you could have gotten the photo off the web and
:>> post using his name. Fits your M.O.
:>>
:>> --
:>
:>
:>
:>Funny, since Old Odd Anderson was trying so hard to convince us that
:>Jose was legit just a few short weeks ago.
:>
:>I guess that when you live in Andersonland reality is a fluid concept.
Does "Greg" really think anyone believes his, " I'm not Karen" story?
Does Sarah really think anyone believes 'her,' "I'm not Ken" story? Other
than those retards Gilmer and Hickey that is. And now this vet-tard Dean
sock puppet.

ROTFL!!!!
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2009-01-10 19:07:32 UTC
Permalink
Does Sarah really think anyone believes 'her,'  "I'm not Ken" story?
Of course, when one talks to both of them at the same time using a
speaker phone, that makes a rather powerful argument in their favor.

Just sayin' ;)

But you know this already, right Karen?
Sarah Ehrett
2009-01-10 19:23:14 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 20:59:48 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
wrote:

:>
:>"Sarah Ehrett" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
:>news:***@4ax.com...
:>> On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:59:02 -0800 (PST), PyrateJohn
:>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
:>>
:>> :>On Jan 8, 3:21 pm, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake> wrote:
:>> :>
:>> :>
:>> :>
:>> :>>
:>> :>> Means nothing. Any one of you could have gotten the photo off the web
:>> and
:>> :>> post using his name. Fits your M.O.
:>> :>>
:>> :>> --
:>> :>
:>> :>
:>> :>
:>> :>Funny, since Old Odd Anderson was trying so hard to convince us that
:>> :>Jose was legit just a few short weeks ago.
:>> :>
:>> :>I guess that when you live in Andersonland reality is a fluid concept.
:>>
:>> Does "Greg" really think anyone believes his, " I'm not Karen" story?
:>
:>
:>Does Sarah really think anyone believes 'her,' "I'm not Ken" story? Other
:>than those retards Gilmer and Hickey that is. And now this vet-tard Dean
:>sock puppet.

Poor Greg/Karen. The inconvenient truths for you is the evidence to
the contrary - photo's, documents, car registrations,etc.

Dean isn't real. I'm not real. No one is real but you and John,
right old girl? :)


:>ROTFL!!!!
PyrateJohn
2009-01-10 20:20:05 UTC
Permalink
Poor Greg/Karen.  The inconvenient truths for you is the evidence to
the contrary -  photo's, documents, car registrations,etc.  
Dean isn't real.  I'm not real.   No one is real but you and John,
right old girl?  :)
:>ROTFL!!!!
Hell, for all anyone knows I could be a figment of Anderson's
imagination ;)

Seriously, I wonder if the old broad is under water? I think that
Seattle is basically cut off because the roads south of there are
flooded.

I got an email yesterday asking if I was interested in working in the
flood zones. I said "sure" just as long as the laws about shooting
looters and folks attacking Federal workers are being enforced ;)
Gregory Hall
2009-01-10 21:34:19 UTC
Permalink
Poor Greg/Karen. The inconvenient truths for you is the evidence to
the contrary - photo's, documents, car registrations,etc.
Dean isn't real. I'm not real. No one is real but you and John,
right old girl? :)
:>ROTFL!!!!
| Hell, for all anyone knows I could be a figment of Anderson's
| imagination ;)
|
| Seriously, I wonder if the old broad is under water? I think that
| Seattle is basically cut off because the roads south of there are
| flooded.
|
| I got an email yesterday asking if I was interested in working in the
| flood zones. I said "sure" just as long as the laws about shooting
| looters and folks attacking Federal workers are being enforced ;)


It is awfully odd that Karen hasn't posted now for about a week. Something
very important must be keeping her away from the keyboard and that's . . .
wait a minute. Who the fuck is THAT out there knocking on my boat!!!!
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2009-01-10 21:59:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gregory Hall
It is awfully odd that Karen hasn't posted now for about a week. Something
very important must be keeping her away from the keyboard and that's  . . .
wait a minute. Who the fuck is THAT out there knocking on my boat!!!!
Manatee? They don't call them sea kows for nuthin'


mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo
Puma
2009-01-10 22:13:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gregory Hall
It is awfully odd that Karen hasn't posted now for about
a week.
Post by Gregory Hall
Something very important must be keeping her away from
the keyboard
Post by Gregory Hall
and that's . . . wait a minute. Who the fuck is THAT out
there
Post by Gregory Hall
knocking on my boat!!!!
Don't laugh...
The Wind Blew, The Shit Flew, and There Stood Lumpy
2009-01-10 22:41:22 UTC
Permalink
Again with the Google Archives for hours. If I just keep clicking on
'find all posts by this author' and going wherever it all takes me,
you get deeper and deeper into this bullshit that stretches back
years. When this Dean Shultis showed up is when I realized how fucking
stupid it really is, as his posts interconnect with thousands of
others, each sending tentacles back and forth and up and down and
inside everywhere.

Karen, you are so goddamned full of shit I can't believe it. You've
acted with me as if you are an injured party, victim of this and that,
and come to find out, you have run probably hundreds of aliases on
usenet for at least ten years, maybe not hundreds but dozens and
dozens. Maybe more than a hundred, but that's not the point.

You turned out to be just as idiotic and lame-brained as every one of
"them", the boogie-men that you say have oppressed and abused you all
these years. I tried to figure out what was in it for you, when it
appeared at many junctures that you and your aliases were the main
figures who were arguing back and forth, or transversely, supporting
one another. It finally dawned on me it was all for the benefit of
two people, John Gilmer and the wheelchair guy!! The whole thing has
been about them. Getting their attention, interacting with them in
the only way you can..... it's stupifying. How much energy has gone
into it. I'm too old to label everyone as psychotic or mental or any
billions of nouns and verbs Usenet uses because behavior is mostly an
instinctive way to deal with one's environment. Humans create their
own environment and then figure out a way to live in it. That's what
you've done. We all do it. Some of us try to create an environment for
ourselves that is constructive in some way but not all of us are wired
that way. I get that.

But this whoever called Dean Dino x 10000.00 aliases, and you, and
Gilmer, are responsible for untold reams of pure infantile fantasy. I
especially liked the woman who portrayed herself as a mental health
professional. That was, even I have to admit, psychotic. How about the
woman who gave her cell phone number out that traced back to
Providence, Rhode Island? I found it on a long-expiered For Sale By
Owner listing. When the arguing got hot and heavy by the certified
posters, it was peculiar how many of the outted characters were from
Rhode Island. In the scheme of things, RI doesn't compute in a
statistical way. And there's also this character who posts from the
Bremerton/Silverdale area and has for a long time... taking the name
of an actual resident. The likelihood of 3 people from Kitsap County
all circling around Karen Anderson is so tiny that rational people
would reject it out of hand. If no one "here" EVER accepts that I am
a man named Jim who lives on Bainbridge Island, I don't blame them.
Not after reading that ever-deepening sin-hole called Archives. You,
Karen, have yourself run so many socks that you've dug your own grave
and live in it now.

At one time, I actually thought that the majority of the people around
here were themselves, and a few were aliases. Of course I see now that
you're the majority of them... and the regular patrons have shuffled
off to another group to pass the time of day as they are so goddamned
bored with the tilled ground they couldn't bear listening to it again,
it's so lame. What I find odd is that I'm more interested in digging
around in the trash barrel of Archives than I am in reading current
time stuff... today is all worn out and there's nothing new. Yours and
Gilmer's feelings toward one another aren't exactly fun or
interesting.

There's no point in this missive than just putting it out there for
whatever you may think of it as you read it. I don't malign you for
the decade you've spent here with this shit but I do see how things
can end up. As you were pulled deeper and deeper into this shit it
took over your life and became nurturance, which is natural, typical,
predictable. Ok. But the problem is, is when it's all over and all you
got is a handful of nothing to show for your decade. If you were kind
of alone and lonely ten years ago, and this shit filled up your life,
it didn't fill it with anything that has volume, know what I mean?
There's nobody to call from it, nobody to visit, nobody to be friends
with. Just a bunch of weird shit on the internet.

The individual posting as Dean Shultis, Gaspar, Dino, Troopervet, etc
etc, is a lost soul. A person who sees life in an ugly, violent, sick
way, and is found among us everywhere - it's just that we can see him
on the internet and we can't see him next to us at work or walking
down the street.

I've always lived in a kind of bubble. I developed my view of mankind
reading English lit when I was just a kid...the true nature of man was
described as metaphor in those books, not in a way a kid could
understand. I'm here at the end of my life slowly waking up to the
knowledge that the world really is full of fucked up, terrible people.
Sounds blithely idiotic to write that, I know. Makes me look like a
moron. I am a moron. Between the idealism of pre- and post-war Lit,
rock and roll, Seattle, and my own life spent bullshitting in the
company of fellow comrades in the bars, Black Ugly isn't something I'm
familiar with. When Evelyn Waugh wrote of the War, he never described
it. He satirized the politicians who created it. In a sense, I've only
seen the world on Plato's wall.

Oh, well. All of life is sadness. That's why joy seems so amazing when
it comes out of nowhere.
Puma
2009-01-10 22:12:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by PyrateJohn
I got an email yesterday asking if I was interested in working in the
flood zones. I said "sure" just as long as the laws about shooting
looters and folks attacking Federal workers are being enforced ;)
You got a harpoon gun, Pirate? Ya might needs one!
Sarah Ehrett
2009-01-11 00:42:35 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:20:05 -0800 (PST), PyrateJohn
<***@gmail.com> wrote:

:>On Jan 10, 1:23 pm, Sarah Ehrett <***@cox.net> wrote:
:>
:>
:>>
:>>
:>> Poor Greg/Karen.  The inconvenient truths for you is the evidence to
:>> the contrary -  photo's, documents, car registrations,etc.  
:>>
:>> Dean isn't real.  I'm not real.   No one is real but you and John,
:>> right old girl?  :)
:>>
:>> :>ROTFL!!!!
:>
:>
:>
:>Hell, for all anyone knows I could be a figment of Anderson's
:>imagination ;)
:>
:>Seriously, I wonder if the old broad is under water? I think that
:>Seattle is basically cut off because the roads south of there are
:>flooded.
:>
:>I got an email yesterday asking if I was interested in working in the
:>flood zones. I said "sure" just as long as the laws about shooting
:>looters and folks attacking Federal workers are being enforced ;)

LOL! I'm envisioning the old broad latched onto your ankles like a
378 lb walrus in heat.
PyrateJohn
2009-01-11 02:42:10 UTC
Permalink
LOL!   I'm envisioning the old broad latched onto your ankles like a
378 lb walrus in heat.  
Please! Not a pretty thought. I am expecting you and Rob to take up
a collection to help me buy a whale harpoon ;)

Realistically, with what we do, there isn't a chance in hell of
running into Old Odd Anderson. Half the time we work at places with
fairly high security, and the other half we are running around in
rural places.

Still ... one has to laugh.

Oh well. I don't think that a disaster has even been declared yet,
but the jungle drums have been calling all day saying that we should
get ready.

Sarah Ehrett
2009-01-10 01:56:03 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:21:45 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake>
wrote:

:>
:>"Ken Ehrett" <***@olg.com> wrote in message
:>news:***@4ax.com...
:>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:02:03 -0800 (PST), Lumpy <***@gmail.com>
:>> wrote:
:>>
:>>>On Jan 6, 11:39 am, Dean <***@newsguy.com> wrote:
:>>>
:>>>>
:>>>> http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/DSCN0015.jpg
:>>>
:>>>Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
:>>>to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
:>>>dangerous.
:>>
:>> Oh for fucks sake you crazy old hag! Stop with the "everything is
:>> photo shopped or faked" line. That is rock solid proof that Dean is a
:>> Vietnam veteran. He's a VFW member and 62 years old you fool!
:>
:>
:>Means nothing. Any one of you could have gotten the photo off the web and
:>post using his name.

Another inconvenient truth for you Karen is we've all spoken to the
Dean who lives at the address and phone number you provided. He knows
ALLLLLL about you and your little tricks.
Gregory Hall
2009-01-10 02:13:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sarah Ehrett
:>
:>>
:>>>
:>>>>
:>>>> http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/DSCN0015.jpg
:>>>
:>>>Either you have stolen that individual's identity, or you have proven
:>>>to be mentally ill. I'm done. No matter who you are, I believe you're
:>>>dangerous.
:>>
:>> Oh for fucks sake you crazy old hag! Stop with the "everything is
:>> photo shopped or faked" line. That is rock solid proof that Dean is a
:>> Vietnam veteran. He's a VFW member and 62 years old you fool!
:>
:>
:>Means nothing. Any one of you could have gotten the photo off the web and
:>post using his name.
Another inconvenient truth for you Karen is we've all spoken to the
Dean who lives at the address and phone number you provided. He knows
ALLLLLL about you and your little tricks.
Sure he does Ken/Sarah. Sure he does. I know you've all just spent hours and
hours e-mailing back and forth the usual lies. Don't you have any life at
all? Still trying to roll the dice when Karen's taken her monopoly game and
gone home?
--
Gregory Hall
PyrateJohn
2009-01-10 19:05:41 UTC
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Post by Gregory Hall
Still trying to roll the dice when Karen's taken her monopoly game and
gone home?
--
Gregory Hall
Now that's fucking funny. Reminds me of the Black Knight in Monty
Python and the Holy Grail.

Dedicated to "I'll bite your legs off!" Anderson:

~~

In the film, King Arthur (Graham Chapman), accompanied by his trusty
serf Patsy (Terry Gilliam), is traveling through a forest when he
enters a clearing and observes a fight taking place between a Black
Knight (John Cleese) and a Green Knight (also played by Gilliam) by a
bridge over a small stream. As he watches, the Black Knight defeats
the Green, stabbing his sword straight through the eye slot of the
Green Knight's helm.

Arthur then congratulates the Black Knight and offers him a place at
his court on the Round Table, but he only stands still, holding his
sword, and makes no response until Arthur moves to cross the bridge;
he then refuses to stand aside. Reluctantly, Arthur fights the Black
Knight, and after a short battle the Knight's left arm is severed.

However, even at this the Knight refuses to stand aside, insisting
"'tis but a scratch" and fighting on. Next his right arm, which had
been holding his sword, is also removed, but he still does not
concede. As the Knight is literally disarmed, Arthur assumes the fight
is over and kneels to offer a prayer to God. The Black Knight
interrupts Arthur's prayer of thanks for his victory by kicking him in
the side of the head and accusing him of cowardice; when Arthur points
out his injuries he insists it's "only a flesh wound". In response to
the continued kicks and insults, Arthur chops off first one leg and
finally the other, at which the Black Knight is forced to concede
after Arthur "calls it a draw". Arthur summons Patsy and "rides" away,
leaving the Black Knight to scream threats at him ("I'll bite your
legs off!"), where the scene fades out.
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 20:35:25 UTC
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You lose, Karen...  AGAIN!  Give it up!  GO AWAY!
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/DSCN0015.jpg
That is kinda standard "Anderson logic." You aren't a vet despite
having documentation to that effect. I haven't done 99% of the things
that I have claimed despite having blogs and photos. Sarah isn't a
separate person despite having legal documents in her name. Etc.,
etc.
RFH
2009-01-06 22:13:47 UTC
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[Kow] goes from mania to
depression - sometimes within hours.
Ha! I've seen it happen in a matter of minutes. In person. The
personalities carried on an argument! Wanna talk spooky?
Believe it or not, she's still waiting for everyone to apologize to
her... Heh...
Better have the devil watch the thermostat in hell...
Gregory Hall
2009-01-06 20:17:14 UTC
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Post by Dean
The idea of course was for me to start another flame war,
which is something that I derived some sort of sick pleasure from. <g>
I like this guy!!! That is 'zactly the reason I would continue to bait the
old hag.
Pissing into the wind it seems. . .
Post by RFH
One, because she is soooooooo easy to bait and secondly because in off-
times, it serves as amusement to me.
Delusional! Where is she? Looks like you're dead meat. Better go back to
playing with yourself.
Post by RFH
OK, call me ugly but I, too derive some sick pleasure from it.
You ARE ugly in both mind and body! Thanks for the confirmation. The more
you rant and rave the more normal Karen looks.

--
Gregory Hall
RFH
2009-01-06 16:07:51 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
Anderson is just totally obsessed with me, and I (and everyone else
here) could care less about her.
John, while I feel for you, Bud, I can only thank you for taking some of
the obsessive, stalking "heat" off of me!!!

I guess the fact that you seem to be nicer and more forgiving than me is
why the old hag is still carrying a torch for you.

Of course, if history is correct, "Greg" should become kow's poster-boy for
obsessive stalking-ness. Ha! Serves him right...
PyrateJohn
2009-01-06 16:42:38 UTC
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Post by RFH
John, while I feel for you, Bud, I can only thank you for taking some of
the obsessive, stalking "heat" off of me!!!
I think that you owe me a beer ... or two ;)
RFH
2009-01-06 22:09:23 UTC
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Post by RFH
John, while I feel for you, Bud, I can only thank you for taking some of
the obsessive, stalking "heat" off of me!!!
I think that you owe me a beer ... or two ;)
You're easy...
PyrateJohn
2009-01-05 20:47:38 UTC
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She won't stop until she's dead...    
Hopefully such drastic measures won't be necessary.
RFH
2009-01-05 21:42:34 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
In light of recent developments, and in light of the conversation that
I had with the former Jose Gaspar, I think that you were absolutely
right in that Old Odd Anderson did not want a truce of any sort and,
in fact, would prefer to continue bitchin' and stalkin' to her dying
day if given a choice.
My apologies if you felt that I wasn't supporting your position.
No apologies necessary, John. You didn't do or not do anything to me. If
you wanted a truce, it was your choice. I tried to respect it, or at least
you. There were certainly no problems here on my end!
Post by PyrateJohn
You are a scholar and a gentleman. Or at least a scholar, right? ;)
Yep, the gentleman part is out the window 'cept when I go to weddings or
funerals...

Full speed ahead! Raise the Jolly Roger!
Gregory Hall
2009-01-05 21:49:17 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
In light of recent developments, and in light of the conversation that
I had with the former Jose Gaspar, I think that you were absolutely
right in that Old Odd Anderson did not want a truce of any sort and,
in fact, would prefer to continue bitchin' and stalkin' to her dying
day if given a choice.
My apologies if you felt that I wasn't supporting your position.
No apologies necessary, John. You didn't do or not do anything to me. If
you wanted a truce, it was your choice. I tried to respect it, or at least
you. There were certainly no problems here on my end!
Post by PyrateJohn
You are a scholar and a gentleman. Or at least a scholar, right? ;)
Yep, the gentleman part is out the window 'cept when I go to weddings or
funerals...
Full speed ahead! Raise the Jolly Roger!
You two "good buddies" really should get a room.
--
Gregory Hall
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