The Astounding Karen Anderson

[Gregory Hall]

Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.

Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here, I find myself
making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those who may be
mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person could do such a fine
job acting like one so I think it's all some put on to troll gullible people
and to make herself the center of attention as she obviously has no real
life.

But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually concerned about any
of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to prance around on
center stage? After reading this post, you'll most likely conclude it's the
latter case. There are some kooks who sound like childish twits with their
excessive use of profanity and ad hominem attacks of a scurrilous nature and
there some others like Karen who write a very good representation of a
stuck-on-herself, aging female who thinks she's the center of the universe.
There are also some who are less than provocative because they sound like
mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post after post. I
think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds pretty much like
a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who has imagined friends all
over the country with whom she commiserates. Yet, she obviously spends 18-20
hours a day posting to Usenet so who do you think Karen is in real life?

Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty much
like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal lives.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates they
be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal relationship snafus.
But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful
certainly does come naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't mention is
acting stupid and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's standing in a man's
world. Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around for a while. Then it tends
to become quite odious after some prolonged exposure. It's easy to have sex
with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really want to wake up to
it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast prepared for you?

So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the Karen types
overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to sublime helpful and
intelligent, the noble and the good of womanhood, and instead drag people
down into the sphere of her own cheerful and stupid nature, or should we
tell Karen what we all think of her. Boy, do I have some choice words I'd
like to use? But, not knowing for sure if Karen really suffers some kind of
mental illness or is just a very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err
on the stupid and cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.

To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but choices
have consequences and at this time of year with Christmas cheer and all
would it not perhaps be better to err on the side of caution and accept
Karen not as an act but as a real life woman with some problems such as
lacking interpersonal relationship skills? Mankind needs to do more to view
the realm of moderated chaos which is the normal female mind as a miracle
and less to view realm of totally unbridled chaos which is the mind of any
left-behind, stupid and cheerful middle-aged woman whose time has come - and
gone! I say all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the
edge can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to that
precipice.

There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine yet there is
always a hint of a sham or a deception when her diatribes are read
carefully. She may well be a master manipulator laughing her ass off at how
she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.

You know what I'm beginning to think? To Hell with Karen! Is she even worth
this much of my time? It's typical of Karen's posts: she condemns bigotry
and injustice except when it benefits her personally which is most of the
time because she writes to inspire just that. Here's a clue. When trying to
understand what she is up to, look at what she is saying and what it's based
upon. Don't let yourself be distracted by the patter of crocodile tears and
the vigorous hand-wringing; keep your eye on the shell that has the pea
under it. And focus your mind on the fact that if she had her way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold country
and would act like they did so because they had found that to be the best
way to live. Now, ask yourself is that the perception of a normal mind? I
thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told somebody she would pray
for them and then she delighted in revealing she did no such thing. Sort of
a slap to their face. And she did this believing that she has the mandate of
Heaven to subject human beings to these indignities while complaining how
rotten some people treat her.

But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each point
carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of correspondence from
people all over the country. Like most normal women Karen networks. And one
of the things that disturbs me about her is the number of people who realize
that she loves getting up in front of people and telling them that men are
spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras. She then
boasts offline to her phony friends about how she'll vanquish those who
taunt her in a matter of days. It's all part of the Usenet spectacle that is
Karen Anderson. Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a pig in
mud. So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in mind that you
can't win. A pig loves mud.

Although Karen has obvious popular appeal, she likes to feel like the poor,
set upon victim. Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her slapped
silly. Such activity can flourish only in the dark corners of a kook
newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires will probably sue for cyber
bullying. If you drag it into the open, Karen and her little dog and pony
show will probably run for cover, like cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when
the light is turned on suddenly during the night.

That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess to shine a light on
Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the entirety of AUK. Some of
you just ain't much brighter than Karen it seems so an explanation will do
you all good. Don't give her any more kook awards. She's playing you all for
fools just like I do and she's found how easy it is to manipulate all of you
twits into doing her bidding.

So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen. I don't really think she's
as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself. It's an act rehearsed for
many years to have you all groveling on the floor at her queenly feet.

[Lumped]

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here, I find myself
making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those who may be
mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person could do such a fine
job acting like one so I think it's all some put on to troll gullible people
and to make herself the center of attention as she obviously has no real
life.
But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually concerned about any
of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to prance around on
center stage? After reading this post, you'll most likely conclude it's the
latter case. There are some kooks who sound like childish twits with their
excessive use of profanity and ad hominem attacks of a scurrilous nature and
there some others like Karen who write a very good representation of a
stuck-on-herself, aging female who thinks she's the center of the universe.
There are also some who are less than provocative because they sound like
mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post after post. I
think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds pretty much like
a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who has imagined friends all
over the country with whom she commiserates. Yet, she obviously spends 18-20
hours a day posting to Usenet so who do you think Karen is in real life?
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty much
like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal lives.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates they
be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal relationship snafus.
But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful
certainly does come naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't mention is
acting stupid and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's standing in a man's
world. Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around for a while. Then it tends
to become quite odious after some prolonged exposure. It's easy to have sex
with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really want to wake up to
it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast prepared for you?
So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the Karen types
overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to sublime helpful and
intelligent, the noble and the good of womanhood, and instead drag people
down into the sphere of her own cheerful and stupid nature, or should we
tell Karen what we all think of her. Boy, do I have some choice words I'd
like to use? But, not knowing for sure if Karen really suffers some kind of
mental illness or is just a very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err
on the stupid and cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.
To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but choices
have consequences and at this time of year with Christmas cheer and all
would it not perhaps be better to err on the side of caution and accept
Karen not as an act but as a real life woman with some problems such as
lacking interpersonal relationship skills? Mankind needs to do more to view
the realm of moderated chaos which is the normal female mind as a miracle
and less to view realm of totally unbridled chaos which is the mind of any
left-behind, stupid and cheerful middle-aged woman whose time has come - and
gone!  I say all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the
edge can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to that
precipice.
There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine yet there is
always a hint of a sham or a deception when her diatribes are read
carefully. She may well be a master manipulator laughing her ass off at how
she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.
You know what I'm beginning to think? To Hell with Karen! Is she even worth
this much of my time? It's typical of Karen's posts: she condemns bigotry
and injustice except when it benefits her personally which is most of the
time because she writes to inspire just that. Here's a clue. When trying to
understand what she is up to, look at what she is saying and what it's based
upon. Don't let yourself be distracted by the patter of crocodile tears and
the vigorous hand-wringing; keep your eye on the shell that has the pea
under it. And focus your mind on the fact that if she had her way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold country
and would act like they did so because they had found that to be the best
way to live. Now, ask yourself is that the perception of a normal mind?  I
thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told somebody she would pray
for them and then she delighted in revealing she did no such thing. Sort of
a slap to their face. And she did this believing that she has the mandate of
Heaven to subject human beings to these indignities while complaining how
rotten some people treat her.
But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each point
carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of correspondence from
people all over the country. Like most normal women Karen networks.  And one
of the things that disturbs me about her is the number of people who realize
that she loves getting up in front of people and telling them that men are
spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras. She then
boasts offline to her phony friends about how she'll vanquish those who
taunt her in a matter of days. It's all part of the Usenet spectacle that is
Karen Anderson. Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a pig in
mud. So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in mind that you
can't win. A pig loves mud.
Although Karen has obvious popular appeal, she likes to feel like the poor,
set upon victim. Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her slapped
silly. Such activity can flourish only in the dark corners of a kook
newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires will probably sue for cyber
bullying. If you drag it into the open, Karen and her little dog and pony
show will probably run for cover, like cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when
the light is turned on suddenly during the night.
That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess to shine a light on
Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the entirety of AUK. Some of
you just ain't much brighter than Karen it seems so an explanation will do
you all good. Don't give her any more kook awards. She's playing you all for
fools just like I do and she's found how easy it is to manipulate all of you
twits into doing her bidding.
So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen. I don't really think she's
as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself. It's an act rehearsed for
many years to have you all groveling on the floor at her queenly feet.
--
Gregory Hall

snore

[Jose Gaspar]

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here, I find myself
making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those who may be
mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person could do such a fine
job acting like one so I think it's all some put on to troll gullible people
and to make herself the center of attention as she obviously has no real
life.
But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually concerned about any
of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to prance around on
center stage? After reading this post, you'll most likely conclude it's the
latter case. There are some kooks who sound like childish twits with their
excessive use of profanity and ad hominem attacks of a scurrilous nature and
there some others like Karen who write a very good representation of a
stuck-on-herself, aging female who thinks she's the center of the universe.
There are also some who are less than provocative because they sound like
mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post after post. I
think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds pretty much like
a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who has imagined friends all
over the country with whom she commiserates. Yet, she obviously spends 18-20
hours a day posting to Usenet so who do you think Karen is in real life?
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty much
like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal lives.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates they
be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal relationship snafus.
But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful
certainly does come naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't mention is
acting stupid and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's standing in a man's
world. Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around for a while. Then it tends
to become quite odious after some prolonged exposure. It's easy to have sex
with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really want to wake up to
it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast prepared for you?
So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the Karen types
overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to sublime helpful and
intelligent, the noble and the good of womanhood, and instead drag people
down into the sphere of her own cheerful and stupid nature, or should we
tell Karen what we all think of her. Boy, do I have some choice words I'd
like to use? But, not knowing for sure if Karen really suffers some kind of
mental illness or is just a very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err
on the stupid and cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.
To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but choices
have consequences and at this time of year with Christmas cheer and all
would it not perhaps be better to err on the side of caution and accept
Karen not as an act but as a real life woman with some problems such as
lacking interpersonal relationship skills? Mankind needs to do more to view
the realm of moderated chaos which is the normal female mind as a miracle
and less to view realm of totally unbridled chaos which is the mind of any
left-behind, stupid and cheerful middle-aged woman whose time has come - and
gone! I say all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the
edge can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to that
precipice.
There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine yet there is
always a hint of a sham or a deception when her diatribes are read
carefully. She may well be a master manipulator laughing her ass off at how
she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.
You know what I'm beginning to think? To Hell with Karen! Is she even worth
this much of my time? It's typical of Karen's posts: she condemns bigotry
and injustice except when it benefits her personally which is most of the
time because she writes to inspire just that. Here's a clue. When trying to
understand what she is up to, look at what she is saying and what it's based
upon. Don't let yourself be distracted by the patter of crocodile tears and
the vigorous hand-wringing; keep your eye on the shell that has the pea
under it. And focus your mind on the fact that if she had her way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold country
and would act like they did so because they had found that to be the best
way to live. Now, ask yourself is that the perception of a normal mind? I
thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told somebody she would pray
for them and then she delighted in revealing she did no such thing. Sort of
a slap to their face. And she did this believing that she has the mandate of
Heaven to subject human beings to these indignities while complaining how
rotten some people treat her.
But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each point
carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of correspondence from
people all over the country. Like most normal women Karen networks. And one
of the things that disturbs me about her is the number of people who realize
that she loves getting up in front of people and telling them that men are
spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras. She then
boasts offline to her phony friends about how she'll vanquish those who
taunt her in a matter of days. It's all part of the Usenet spectacle that is
Karen Anderson. Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a pig in
mud. So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in mind that you
can't win. A pig loves mud.
Although Karen has obvious popular appeal, she likes to feel like the poor,
set upon victim. Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her slapped
silly. Such activity can flourish only in the dark corners of a kook
newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires will probably sue for cyber
bullying. If you drag it into the open, Karen and her little dog and pony
show will probably run for cover, like cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when
the light is turned on suddenly during the night.
That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess to shine a light on
Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the entirety of AUK. Some of
you just ain't much brighter than Karen it seems so an explanation will do
you all good. Don't give her any more kook awards. She's playing you all for
fools just like I do and she's found how easy it is to manipulate all of you
twits into doing her bidding.
So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen. I don't really think she's
as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself. It's an act rehearsed for
many years to have you all groveling on the floor at her queenly feet.

You actually wrote all that shit?

I'm making a cheesecake. What are you doing?

[Gregory Hall]

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here, I find myself
making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those who may be
mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person could do such a fine
job acting like one so I think it's all some put on to troll gullible people
and to make herself the center of attention as she obviously has no real
life.
But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually concerned about any
of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to prance around on
center stage? After reading this post, you'll most likely conclude it's the
latter case. There are some kooks who sound like childish twits with their
excessive use of profanity and ad hominem attacks of a scurrilous nature and
there some others like Karen who write a very good representation of a
stuck-on-herself, aging female who thinks she's the center of the universe.
There are also some who are less than provocative because they sound like
mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post after post. I
think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds pretty much like
a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who has imagined friends all
over the country with whom she commiserates. Yet, she obviously spends 18-20
hours a day posting to Usenet so who do you think Karen is in real life?
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty much
like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal lives.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates they
be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal relationship snafus.
But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful
certainly does come naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't mention is
acting stupid and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's standing in a man's
world. Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around for a while. Then it tends
to become quite odious after some prolonged exposure. It's easy to have sex
with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really want to wake up to
it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast prepared for you?
So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the Karen types
overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to sublime helpful and
intelligent, the noble and the good of womanhood, and instead drag people
down into the sphere of her own cheerful and stupid nature, or should we
tell Karen what we all think of her. Boy, do I have some choice words I'd
like to use? But, not knowing for sure if Karen really suffers some kind of
mental illness or is just a very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err
on the stupid and cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.
To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but choices
have consequences and at this time of year with Christmas cheer and all
would it not perhaps be better to err on the side of caution and accept
Karen not as an act but as a real life woman with some problems such as
lacking interpersonal relationship skills? Mankind needs to do more to view
the realm of moderated chaos which is the normal female mind as a miracle
and less to view realm of totally unbridled chaos which is the mind of any
left-behind, stupid and cheerful middle-aged woman whose time has come - and
gone! I say all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the
edge can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to that
precipice.
There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine yet there is
always a hint of a sham or a deception when her diatribes are read
carefully. She may well be a master manipulator laughing her ass off at how
she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.
You know what I'm beginning to think? To Hell with Karen! Is she even worth
this much of my time? It's typical of Karen's posts: she condemns bigotry
and injustice except when it benefits her personally which is most of the
time because she writes to inspire just that. Here's a clue. When trying to
understand what she is up to, look at what she is saying and what it's based
upon. Don't let yourself be distracted by the patter of crocodile tears and
the vigorous hand-wringing; keep your eye on the shell that has the pea
under it. And focus your mind on the fact that if she had her way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold country
and would act like they did so because they had found that to be the best
way to live. Now, ask yourself is that the perception of a normal mind? I
thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told somebody she would pray
for them and then she delighted in revealing she did no such thing. Sort of
a slap to their face. And she did this believing that she has the mandate of
Heaven to subject human beings to these indignities while complaining how
rotten some people treat her.
But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each point
carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of correspondence from
people all over the country. Like most normal women Karen networks. And one
of the things that disturbs me about her is the number of people who realize
that she loves getting up in front of people and telling them that men are
spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras. She then
boasts offline to her phony friends about how she'll vanquish those who
taunt her in a matter of days. It's all part of the Usenet spectacle that is
Karen Anderson. Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a pig in
mud. So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in mind that you
can't win. A pig loves mud.
Although Karen has obvious popular appeal, she likes to feel like the poor,
set upon victim. Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her slapped
silly. Such activity can flourish only in the dark corners of a kook
newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires will probably sue for cyber
bullying. If you drag it into the open, Karen and her little dog and pony
show will probably run for cover, like cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when
the light is turned on suddenly during the night.
That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess to shine a light on
Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the entirety of AUK. Some of
you just ain't much brighter than Karen it seems so an explanation will do
you all good. Don't give her any more kook awards. She's playing you all for
fools just like I do and she's found how easy it is to manipulate all of you
twits into doing her bidding.
So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen. I don't really think she's
as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself. It's an act rehearsed for
many years to have you all groveling on the floor at her queenly feet.

You actually wrote all that shit?
I'm making a cheesecake. What are you doing?

It's my screed generator, or so some of these twits claim.

I'm eating fried chicken and drinking PowerAde strawberry lemonade. Great
stuff.

[Jose Gaspar]

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here, I find myself
making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those who may be
mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person could do such a fine
job acting like one so I think it's all some put on to troll gullible people
and to make herself the center of attention as she obviously has no real
life.
But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually concerned about any
of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to prance around on
center stage? After reading this post, you'll most likely conclude it's the
latter case. There are some kooks who sound like childish twits with their
excessive use of profanity and ad hominem attacks of a scurrilous nature and
there some others like Karen who write a very good representation of a
stuck-on-herself, aging female who thinks she's the center of the universe.
There are also some who are less than provocative because they sound like
mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post after post. I
think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds pretty much like
a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who has imagined friends all
over the country with whom she commiserates. Yet, she obviously spends 18-20
hours a day posting to Usenet so who do you think Karen is in real life?
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty much
like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal lives.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates they
be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal relationship snafus.
But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful
certainly does come naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't mention is
acting stupid and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's standing in a man's
world. Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around for a while. Then it tends
to become quite odious after some prolonged exposure. It's easy to have sex
with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really want to wake up to
it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast prepared for you?
So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the Karen types
overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to sublime helpful and
intelligent, the noble and the good of womanhood, and instead drag people
down into the sphere of her own cheerful and stupid nature, or should we
tell Karen what we all think of her. Boy, do I have some choice words I'd
like to use? But, not knowing for sure if Karen really suffers some kind of
mental illness or is just a very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err
on the stupid and cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.
To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but choices
have consequences and at this time of year with Christmas cheer and all
would it not perhaps be better to err on the side of caution and accept
Karen not as an act but as a real life woman with some problems such as
lacking interpersonal relationship skills? Mankind needs to do more to view
the realm of moderated chaos which is the normal female mind as a miracle
and less to view realm of totally unbridled chaos which is the mind of any
left-behind, stupid and cheerful middle-aged woman whose time has come - and
gone! I say all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the
edge can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to that
precipice.
There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine yet there is
always a hint of a sham or a deception when her diatribes are read
carefully. She may well be a master manipulator laughing her ass off at how
she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.
You know what I'm beginning to think? To Hell with Karen! Is she even worth
this much of my time? It's typical of Karen's posts: she condemns bigotry
and injustice except when it benefits her personally which is most of the
time because she writes to inspire just that. Here's a clue. When trying to
understand what she is up to, look at what she is saying and what it's based
upon. Don't let yourself be distracted by the patter of crocodile tears and
the vigorous hand-wringing; keep your eye on the shell that has the pea
under it. And focus your mind on the fact that if she had her way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold country
and would act like they did so because they had found that to be the best
way to live. Now, ask yourself is that the perception of a normal mind? I
thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told somebody she would pray
for them and then she delighted in revealing she did no such thing. Sort of
a slap to their face. And she did this believing that she has the mandate of
Heaven to subject human beings to these indignities while complaining how
rotten some people treat her.
But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each point
carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of correspondence from
people all over the country. Like most normal women Karen networks. And one
of the things that disturbs me about her is the number of people who realize
that she loves getting up in front of people and telling them that men are
spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras. She then
boasts offline to her phony friends about how she'll vanquish those who
taunt her in a matter of days. It's all part of the Usenet spectacle that is
Karen Anderson. Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a pig in
mud. So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in mind that you
can't win. A pig loves mud.
Although Karen has obvious popular appeal, she likes to feel like the poor,
set upon victim. Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her slapped
silly. Such activity can flourish only in the dark corners of a kook
newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires will probably sue for cyber
bullying. If you drag it into the open, Karen and her little dog and pony
show will probably run for cover, like cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when
the light is turned on suddenly during the night.
That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess to shine a light on
Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the entirety of AUK. Some of
you just ain't much brighter than Karen it seems so an explanation will do
you all good. Don't give her any more kook awards. She's playing you all for
fools just like I do and she's found how easy it is to manipulate all of you
twits into doing her bidding.
So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen. I don't really think she's
as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself. It's an act rehearsed for
many years to have you all groveling on the floor at her queenly feet.

You actually wrote all that shit?
I'm making a cheesecake. What are you doing?

It's my screed generator, or so some of these twits claim.
I'm eating fried chicken and drinking PowerAde strawberry lemonade. Great
stuff.

Fried chicken is really hard to do well unless you deep fry it. I know a guy
who can do a wonderful job in an electric skillet. I tried it a couple of times
but I got it too greasy, so I gave up. I can do terrific onion rings though.
Best ever...

[Gregory Hall]

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here, I find myself
making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those who may be
mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person could do such a fine
job acting like one so I think it's all some put on to troll gullible people
and to make herself the center of attention as she obviously has no real
life.
But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually concerned about any
of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to prance around on
center stage? After reading this post, you'll most likely conclude it's the
latter case. There are some kooks who sound like childish twits with their
excessive use of profanity and ad hominem attacks of a scurrilous nature and
there some others like Karen who write a very good representation of a
stuck-on-herself, aging female who thinks she's the center of the universe.
There are also some who are less than provocative because they sound like
mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post after
post.
I
think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds pretty much like
a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who has imagined friends all
over the country with whom she commiserates. Yet, she obviously spends 18-20
hours a day posting to Usenet so who do you think Karen is in real life?
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty much
like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal lives.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates they
be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal relationship snafus.
But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful
certainly does come naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't mention is
acting stupid and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's standing in a man's
world. Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around for a while. Then it tends
to become quite odious after some prolonged exposure. It's easy to have sex
with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really want to wake up to
it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast prepared for you?
So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the Karen types
overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to sublime helpful and
intelligent, the noble and the good of womanhood, and instead drag people
down into the sphere of her own cheerful and stupid nature, or should we
tell Karen what we all think of her. Boy, do I have some choice words I'd
like to use? But, not knowing for sure if Karen really suffers some kind of
mental illness or is just a very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err
on the stupid and cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.
To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but choices
have consequences and at this time of year with Christmas cheer and all
would it not perhaps be better to err on the side of caution and accept
Karen not as an act but as a real life woman with some problems such as
lacking interpersonal relationship skills? Mankind needs to do more to view
the realm of moderated chaos which is the normal female mind as a miracle
and less to view realm of totally unbridled chaos which is the mind of any
left-behind, stupid and cheerful middle-aged woman whose time has come - and
gone! I say all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the
edge can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to that
precipice.
There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine yet there is
always a hint of a sham or a deception when her diatribes are read
carefully. She may well be a master manipulator laughing her ass off at how
she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.
You know what I'm beginning to think? To Hell with Karen! Is she even worth
this much of my time? It's typical of Karen's posts: she condemns bigotry
and injustice except when it benefits her personally which is most of the
time because she writes to inspire just that. Here's a clue. When trying to
understand what she is up to, look at what she is saying and what it's based
upon. Don't let yourself be distracted by the patter of crocodile tears and
the vigorous hand-wringing; keep your eye on the shell that has the pea
under it. And focus your mind on the fact that if she had her way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold country
and would act like they did so because they had found that to be the best
way to live. Now, ask yourself is that the perception of a normal mind?
I
thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told somebody she would pray
for them and then she delighted in revealing she did no such thing. Sort of
a slap to their face. And she did this believing that she has the
mandate
of
Heaven to subject human beings to these indignities while complaining how
rotten some people treat her.
But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each point
carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of correspondence from
people all over the country. Like most normal women Karen networks. And one
of the things that disturbs me about her is the number of people who realize
that she loves getting up in front of people and telling them that men are
spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras. She then
boasts offline to her phony friends about how she'll vanquish those who
taunt her in a matter of days. It's all part of the Usenet spectacle
that
is
Karen Anderson. Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a pig in
mud. So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in mind that you
can't win. A pig loves mud.
Although Karen has obvious popular appeal, she likes to feel like the poor,
set upon victim. Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her slapped
silly. Such activity can flourish only in the dark corners of a kook
newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires will probably sue for cyber
bullying. If you drag it into the open, Karen and her little dog and pony
show will probably run for cover, like cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when
the light is turned on suddenly during the night.
That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess to shine a light on
Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the entirety of AUK. Some of
you just ain't much brighter than Karen it seems so an explanation will do
you all good. Don't give her any more kook awards. She's playing you all for
fools just like I do and she's found how easy it is to manipulate all of you
twits into doing her bidding.
So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen. I don't really think she's
as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself. It's an act rehearsed for
many years to have you all groveling on the floor at her queenly feet.

You actually wrote all that shit?
I'm making a cheesecake. What are you doing?

It's my screed generator, or so some of these twits claim.
I'm eating fried chicken and drinking PowerAde strawberry lemonade. Great
stuff.

Fried chicken is really hard to do well unless you deep fry it. I know a guy
who can do a wonderful job in an electric skillet. I tried it a couple of times
but I got it too greasy, so I gave up. I can do terrific onion rings though.
Best ever...

To deep fry chicken right you have to use a pressure cooker with the right
kind of cooking oil and the temp needs to be maintained around 375 degrees.

Onion rings are some good eating if done right. Again frying temperature is
critical or they can leave a greasy aftertaste. Sweet Vidalia onions are my
fave.

[Karen]

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar
Fried chicken is really hard to do well unless you deep fry it. I know a guy
who can do a wonderful job in an electric skillet. I tried it a couple of times
but I got it too greasy, so I gave up. I can do terrific onion rings though.
Best ever...

To deep fry chicken right you have to use a pressure cooker with the
right kind of cooking oil and the temp needs to be maintained around
375 degrees.

I have one of those pressure chicken fryers and the recipe for yummy
batter. The chicken is the best I ever prepared at home, but I have to
make a big batch and then the leftovers don't microwave very good. I
need a much smaller one. I just go to KFC when I want to eat chicken.
But their x-tra crispy batter is tooo salty.

[Gregory Hall]

Post by Karen

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar
Fried chicken is really hard to do well unless you deep fry it. I know a guy
who can do a wonderful job in an electric skillet. I tried it a couple of times
but I got it too greasy, so I gave up. I can do terrific onion rings though.
Best ever...

To deep fry chicken right you have to use a pressure cooker with the
right kind of cooking oil and the temp needs to be maintained around
375 degrees.

I have one of those pressure chicken fryers and the recipe for yummy
batter. The chicken is the best I ever prepared at home, but I have to
make a big batch and then the leftovers don't microwave very good. I need
a much smaller one. I just go to KFC when I want to eat chicken. But
their x-tra crispy batter is tooo salty.

I'm partial to the original recipe. And their coleslaw is just the best!

[Karen]

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Karen

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar
Fried chicken is really hard to do well unless you deep fry it. I know a guy
who can do a wonderful job in an electric skillet. I tried it a couple of times
but I got it too greasy, so I gave up. I can do terrific onion rings though.
Best ever...

To deep fry chicken right you have to use a pressure cooker with the
right kind of cooking oil and the temp needs to be maintained around
375 degrees.

I have one of those pressure chicken fryers and the recipe for yummy
batter. The chicken is the best I ever prepared at home, but I have
to make a big batch and then the leftovers don't microwave very
good. I need a much smaller one. I just go to KFC when I want to
eat chicken. But their x-tra crispy batter is tooo salty.

I'm partial to the original recipe. And their coleslaw is just the best!

Their cole slaw here tastes good, but is always sloppy. Their warm
biscuits absolutely melt in my mouth and are luscious. I have always
liked the original recipe but prefer a crispy coating and their strips
are all meat and no bones to fuss with. My tastes are changing and I
find some things to be much too salty now. That's my problem; not
KFC's.

Are you familiar with "Broasted Chicken"? I like that very much, too.

[Gregory Hall]

Post by Karen

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Karen

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar
Fried chicken is really hard to do well unless you deep fry it. I know a guy
who can do a wonderful job in an electric skillet. I tried it a couple of times
but I got it too greasy, so I gave up. I can do terrific onion rings though.
Best ever...

To deep fry chicken right you have to use a pressure cooker with the
right kind of cooking oil and the temp needs to be maintained around
375 degrees.

I have one of those pressure chicken fryers and the recipe for yummy
batter. The chicken is the best I ever prepared at home, but I have
to make a big batch and then the leftovers don't microwave very
good. I need a much smaller one. I just go to KFC when I want to
eat chicken. But their x-tra crispy batter is tooo salty.

I'm partial to the original recipe. And their coleslaw is just the best!

Their cole slaw here tastes good, but is always sloppy. Their warm
biscuits absolutely melt in my mouth and are luscious. I have always
liked the original recipe but prefer a crispy coating and their strips are
all meat and no bones to fuss with. My tastes are changing and I find
some things to be much too salty now. That's my problem; not KFC's.
Are you familiar with "Broasted Chicken"? I like that very much, too.

I've heard of broasted chicken but don't really know how it's prepared. But,
I love the rotisserie chicken I can get at the local grocery store, though.

Broasted is maybe a combination word put together from Broiled and
Roasted???

That's sort of the idea behind rotisserie chicken where it cooks on a spit
turning circles in an oven with a broiler on top for a nice crispy skin.

Winn-Dixie has whole rotisserie chickens on sale this month for only $4.99
each. Hell, I can't even buy a whole frozen chicken for that, let alone
factor in the cost to cook the thing. Besides, aboard my fine bluewater
yacht where I live in Southern Florida and the Bahamas I have limited
cooking options. My old-fashioned pressure cooker (the kind that has the
little weight on top that jiggles to let out the steam) is my pressure deep
fryer. My propane powered barbeque is my oven and grill. My pressure
alcohol, two burner stove is my stovetop. I don't own a broiler as such nor
microwave.

I do enjoy preparing and cooking my own food, especially freshly hooked fish
and a spiny lobster tail from time to time.

[PyrateJohn]

Post by Gregory Hall
I've heard of broasted chicken but don't really know how it's prepared. But,
I love the rotisserie chicken I can get at the local grocery store, though.
Broasted is maybe a combination word put together from Broiled and
Roasted???

I can't believe that I'm getting sucked into the silly food
discussion, but what-the-hell ... ;)

Do a Google on "broasted" - it's actually pretty interesting.
Conventional pressure cookers aren't safe if you add oils to them; a
broaster is a commercial piece of equipment available only to the food
service industry.

And yeah, broasted chicken is pretty tasty.

Post by Gregory Hall
I do enjoy preparing and cooking my own food, especially freshly hooked fish
and a spiny lobster tail from time to time.
--
Gregory Hall

I had some photos of a Jimmy Buffett concert where we had lots of beer
and grilled lobster tail. Old Odd Anderson did one of her typical
rants about how spiny lobster couldn't be any good, etc., and was
joined by her Gaspar sock.

Well ... spiny lobster is pretty common in the Florida Keys. It's
pretty obvious that, living in her part of the country, she had never
seen or heard of spiny lobster and grilling the tails.

That was a helluva good meal. It's funny, because I got an email from
friends just a day or two ago commenting on what a good time that we
had and how good the food was.

That's pretty good eatin'. I might check around today and see if I
can find a seafood place. It's gotten warm enough here where grilling
outside is attractive again.

I've joked a couple of times about becoming a lobster farmer. No one
has ever successfully raised a crop in a pen, but sooner or later it's
going to happen ;)


--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com

[Karen]

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Karen
Are you familiar with "Broasted Chicken"? I like that very much, too.

I've heard of broasted chicken but don't really know how it's
prepared.

Like the pressure fried but with a trademark recipe for the batter. The
fryers are only for commercial use, not for home use. Broasted Chicken
was popular in Wisconsin where I'm from because that's where it was
invented.


But, I love the rotisserie chicken I can get at the local

Post by Gregory Hall
grocery store, though.

I don't like any "roasted" chicken as much as some type of "fried".
Roasted is healthier, tho. Those rotisserie chickens in the grocery
stores are *very* convenient, tho.

Post by Gregory Hall
Broasted is maybe a combination word put together from Broiled and
Roasted???

I didn't read close enough in the links below to see why it's called
"broasting". It isn't roasted at all, but pressure fried.

Post by Gregory Hall
That's sort of the idea behind rotisserie chicken where it cooks on a
spit turning circles in an oven with a broiler on top for a nice
crispy skin.

That is true.

Post by Gregory Hall
Winn-Dixie has whole rotisserie chickens on sale this month for only
$4.99 each. Hell, I can't even buy a whole frozen chicken for that,
let alone factor in the cost to cook the thing.

That's right....and often true of foods. We can't make it ourselves at
home for less money and we have a mess to clean up. That's why I don't
care to make a big breakfast at home or prepare chicken or fish. Easier
and often less costly to let somebody make it in a restaurant. I
couldn't make a KFC dinner at home for what they charge.

Besides, aboard my

Post by Gregory Hall
fine bluewater yacht where I live in Southern Florida and the Bahamas
I have limited cooking options.

I thought you were in Australia!

My old-fashioned pressure cooker (the

Post by Gregory Hall
kind that has the little weight on top that jiggles to let out the
steam) is my pressure deep fryer.

Mom used one every day when I was a kid. I have an actual pressure
"Chicken Fryer" and it calls for a lot of oil as the chicken is frying
under pressure.

My propane powered barbeque is my

Post by Gregory Hall
oven and grill. My pressure alcohol, two burner stove is my stovetop.
I don't own a broiler as such nor microwave.

Doesn't look like you need them. Of course, a microwave is always handy
to have....but it does require electricity.

Post by Gregory Hall
I do enjoy preparing and cooking my own food, especially freshly
hooked fish and a spiny lobster tail from time to time.

Nice to eat out, but that can get old and it's nice to fix certain
things at home that are better or you can't find in a restaurant. I
have many favorite dishes that I can't get in a restaurant.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broasting
http://www.ochef.com/374.htm
http://www.ochef.com/1068.htm
http://www.broaster.com/

[Jose Gaspar]

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here, I find myself
making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those who may be
mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person could do such a fine
job acting like one so I think it's all some put on to troll gullible people
and to make herself the center of attention as she obviously has no real
life.
But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually concerned about any
of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to prance around on
center stage? After reading this post, you'll most likely conclude it's the
latter case. There are some kooks who sound like childish twits with their
excessive use of profanity and ad hominem attacks of a scurrilous nature and
there some others like Karen who write a very good representation of a
stuck-on-herself, aging female who thinks she's the center of the universe.
There are also some who are less than provocative because they sound like
mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post after
post.
I
think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds pretty much like
a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who has imagined friends all
over the country with whom she commiserates. Yet, she obviously spends 18-20
hours a day posting to Usenet so who do you think Karen is in real life?
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty much
like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal lives.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates they
be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal relationship snafus.
But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful
certainly does come naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't mention is
acting stupid and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's standing in a man's
world. Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around for a while. Then it tends
to become quite odious after some prolonged exposure. It's easy to have sex
with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really want to wake up to
it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast prepared for you?
So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the Karen types
overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to sublime helpful and
intelligent, the noble and the good of womanhood, and instead drag people
down into the sphere of her own cheerful and stupid nature, or should we
tell Karen what we all think of her. Boy, do I have some choice words I'd
like to use? But, not knowing for sure if Karen really suffers some kind of
mental illness or is just a very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err
on the stupid and cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.
To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but choices
have consequences and at this time of year with Christmas cheer and all
would it not perhaps be better to err on the side of caution and accept
Karen not as an act but as a real life woman with some problems such as
lacking interpersonal relationship skills? Mankind needs to do more to view
the realm of moderated chaos which is the normal female mind as a miracle
and less to view realm of totally unbridled chaos which is the mind of any
left-behind, stupid and cheerful middle-aged woman whose time has come - and
gone! I say all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the
edge can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to that
precipice.
There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine yet there is
always a hint of a sham or a deception when her diatribes are read
carefully. She may well be a master manipulator laughing her ass off at how
she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.
You know what I'm beginning to think? To Hell with Karen! Is she even worth
this much of my time? It's typical of Karen's posts: she condemns bigotry
and injustice except when it benefits her personally which is most of the
time because she writes to inspire just that. Here's a clue. When trying to
understand what she is up to, look at what she is saying and what it's based
upon. Don't let yourself be distracted by the patter of crocodile tears and
the vigorous hand-wringing; keep your eye on the shell that has the pea
under it. And focus your mind on the fact that if she had her way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold country
and would act like they did so because they had found that to be the best
way to live. Now, ask yourself is that the perception of a normal mind?
I
thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told somebody she would pray
for them and then she delighted in revealing she did no such thing. Sort of
a slap to their face. And she did this believing that she has the
mandate
of
Heaven to subject human beings to these indignities while complaining how
rotten some people treat her.
But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each point
carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of correspondence from
people all over the country. Like most normal women Karen networks. And one
of the things that disturbs me about her is the number of people who realize
that she loves getting up in front of people and telling them that men are
spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras. She then
boasts offline to her phony friends about how she'll vanquish those who
taunt her in a matter of days. It's all part of the Usenet spectacle
that
is
Karen Anderson. Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a pig in
mud. So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in mind that you
can't win. A pig loves mud.
Although Karen has obvious popular appeal, she likes to feel like the poor,
set upon victim. Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her slapped
silly. Such activity can flourish only in the dark corners of a kook
newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires will probably sue for cyber
bullying. If you drag it into the open, Karen and her little dog and pony
show will probably run for cover, like cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when
the light is turned on suddenly during the night.
That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess to shine a light on
Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the entirety of AUK. Some of
you just ain't much brighter than Karen it seems so an explanation will do
you all good. Don't give her any more kook awards. She's playing you all for
fools just like I do and she's found how easy it is to manipulate all of you
twits into doing her bidding.
So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen. I don't really think she's
as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself. It's an act rehearsed for
many years to have you all groveling on the floor at her queenly feet.

You actually wrote all that shit?
I'm making a cheesecake. What are you doing?

It's my screed generator, or so some of these twits claim.
I'm eating fried chicken and drinking PowerAde strawberry lemonade. Great
stuff.

Fried chicken is really hard to do well unless you deep fry it. I know a guy
who can do a wonderful job in an electric skillet. I tried it a couple of times
but I got it too greasy, so I gave up. I can do terrific onion rings though.
Best ever...

To deep fry chicken right you have to use a pressure cooker with the right
kind of cooking oil and the temp needs to be maintained around 375 degrees.

That leaves me out. I don't have any contraption like that. But I can grill
chicken pretty good.

Post by Gregory Hall
Onion rings are some good eating if done right. Again frying temperature is
critical or they can leave a greasy aftertaste. Sweet Vidalia onions are my
fave.

Yes, vidalias are great for onion rings. I have a FryDaddy, which is a small
bucket with an electric heater on the bottom that maintains the oil temperature
at an exact 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Perfect for making a small batch.

These are the ingredients that I use for the batter:

2 cups all purpose flour
3 teaspoons salt
3 teaspoons fine ground cayenne pepper
1 teaspoon ground black pepper
1/2 teaspoon dried oregano
1/4 teaspoon dried thyme
1/4 teaspoon cumin

That should be enough for 3 large onions. I usually use canola oil. I
double-batter the rings just before frying and then eat them as soon as they
cool enough.

[Jose Gaspar]

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here, I find myself
making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those who may be
mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person could do such a fine
job acting like one so I think it's all some put on to troll gullible people
and to make herself the center of attention as she obviously has no real
life.
But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually concerned about any
of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to prance around on
center stage? After reading this post, you'll most likely conclude it's the
latter case. There are some kooks who sound like childish twits with their
excessive use of profanity and ad hominem attacks of a scurrilous nature and
there some others like Karen who write a very good representation of a
stuck-on-herself, aging female who thinks she's the center of the universe.
There are also some who are less than provocative because they sound like
mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post after
post.
I
think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds pretty much like
a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who has imagined friends all
over the country with whom she commiserates. Yet, she obviously spends 18-20
hours a day posting to Usenet so who do you think Karen is in real life?
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty much
like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal lives.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates they
be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal relationship snafus.
But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful
certainly does come naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't mention is
acting stupid and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's standing in a man's
world. Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around for a while. Then it tends
to become quite odious after some prolonged exposure. It's easy to have sex
with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really want to wake up to
it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast prepared for you?
So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the Karen types
overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to sublime helpful and
intelligent, the noble and the good of womanhood, and instead drag people
down into the sphere of her own cheerful and stupid nature, or should we
tell Karen what we all think of her. Boy, do I have some choice words I'd
like to use? But, not knowing for sure if Karen really suffers some kind of
mental illness or is just a very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err
on the stupid and cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.
To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but choices
have consequences and at this time of year with Christmas cheer and all
would it not perhaps be better to err on the side of caution and accept
Karen not as an act but as a real life woman with some problems such as
lacking interpersonal relationship skills? Mankind needs to do more to view
the realm of moderated chaos which is the normal female mind as a miracle
and less to view realm of totally unbridled chaos which is the mind of any
left-behind, stupid and cheerful middle-aged woman whose time has come - and
gone! I say all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the
edge can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to that
precipice.
There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine yet there is
always a hint of a sham or a deception when her diatribes are read
carefully. She may well be a master manipulator laughing her ass off at how
she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.
You know what I'm beginning to think? To Hell with Karen! Is she even worth
this much of my time? It's typical of Karen's posts: she condemns bigotry
and injustice except when it benefits her personally which is most of the
time because she writes to inspire just that. Here's a clue. When trying to
understand what she is up to, look at what she is saying and what it's based
upon. Don't let yourself be distracted by the patter of crocodile tears and
the vigorous hand-wringing; keep your eye on the shell that has the pea
under it. And focus your mind on the fact that if she had her way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold country
and would act like they did so because they had found that to be the best
way to live. Now, ask yourself is that the perception of a normal mind?
I
thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told somebody she would pray
for them and then she delighted in revealing she did no such thing. Sort of
a slap to their face. And she did this believing that she has the
mandate
of
Heaven to subject human beings to these indignities while complaining how
rotten some people treat her.
But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each point
carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of correspondence from
people all over the country. Like most normal women Karen networks. And one
of the things that disturbs me about her is the number of people who realize
that she loves getting up in front of people and telling them that men are
spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras. She then
boasts offline to her phony friends about how she'll vanquish those who
taunt her in a matter of days. It's all part of the Usenet spectacle
that
is
Karen Anderson. Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a pig in
mud. So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in mind that you
can't win. A pig loves mud.
Although Karen has obvious popular appeal, she likes to feel like the poor,
set upon victim. Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her slapped
silly. Such activity can flourish only in the dark corners of a kook
newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires will probably sue for cyber
bullying. If you drag it into the open, Karen and her little dog and pony
show will probably run for cover, like cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when
the light is turned on suddenly during the night.
That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess to shine a light on
Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the entirety of AUK. Some of
you just ain't much brighter than Karen it seems so an explanation will do
you all good. Don't give her any more kook awards. She's playing you all for
fools just like I do and she's found how easy it is to manipulate all of you
twits into doing her bidding.
So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen. I don't really think she's
as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself. It's an act rehearsed for
many years to have you all groveling on the floor at her queenly feet.

You actually wrote all that shit?
I'm making a cheesecake. What are you doing?

It's my screed generator, or so some of these twits claim.
I'm eating fried chicken and drinking PowerAde strawberry lemonade. Great
stuff.

Fried chicken is really hard to do well unless you deep fry it. I know a guy
who can do a wonderful job in an electric skillet. I tried it a couple of times
but I got it too greasy, so I gave up. I can do terrific onion rings though.
Best ever...

To deep fry chicken right you have to use a pressure cooker with the right
kind of cooking oil and the temp needs to be maintained around 375 degrees.

That leaves me out. I don't have any contraption like that. But I can grill
chicken pretty good.

Post by Gregory Hall
Onion rings are some good eating if done right. Again frying temperature is
critical or they can leave a greasy aftertaste. Sweet Vidalia onions are my
fave.

Yes, vidalias are great for onion rings. I have a FryDaddy, which is a small
bucket with an electric heater on the bottom that maintains the oil temperature
at an exact 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Perfect for making a small batch.
2 cups all purpose flour
3 teaspoons salt
3 teaspoons fine ground cayenne pepper
1 teaspoon ground black pepper
1/2 teaspoon dried oregano
1/4 teaspoon dried thyme
1/4 teaspoon cumin
That should be enough for 3 large onions. I usually use canola oil. I
double-batter the rings just before frying and then eat them as soon as they
cool enough.

Whoops, I left out the eggs and milk.

Beat 2 eggs and mix them with 1 cup of milk. Dip the rings in the milk/egg
mixture, then dab in the dry mixture. Do that twice, then drop them in the hot
oil.

[Gregory Hall]

"Jose Gaspar" <***@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:***@drn.newsguy.com...
<snip>

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Jose Gaspar
Yes, vidalias are great for onion rings. I have a FryDaddy, which is a small
bucket with an electric heater on the bottom that maintains the oil temperature
at an exact 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Perfect for making a small batch.
2 cups all purpose flour
3 teaspoons salt
3 teaspoons fine ground cayenne pepper
1 teaspoon ground black pepper
1/2 teaspoon dried oregano
1/4 teaspoon dried thyme
1/4 teaspoon cumin
That should be enough for 3 large onions. I usually use canola oil. I
double-batter the rings just before frying and then eat them as soon as they
cool enough.

Whoops, I left out the eggs and milk.
Beat 2 eggs and mix them with 1 cup of milk. Dip the rings in the milk/egg
mixture, then dab in the dry mixture. Do that twice, then drop them in the hot
oil.

Sounds great. Have you ever had one of the "bloomin' onions" at the Outback
Steakhouse? Those are so good. I wonder if it's a secret recipe.

[Karen]

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here, I find myself
making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those who may be
mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person could do such a fine
job acting like one so I think it's all some put on to troll gullible people
and to make herself the center of attention as she obviously has
no real life.
But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually
concerned about any
of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to prance
around on center stage? After reading this post, you'll most
likely conclude it's the
latter case. There are some kooks who sound like childish twits with their
excessive use of profanity and ad hominem attacks of a
scurrilous nature and
there some others like Karen who write a very good
representation of a stuck-on-herself, aging female who thinks
she's the center of the universe.
There are also some who are less than provocative because they sound like
mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post
after post.
I
think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds pretty much like
a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who has imagined friends all
over the country with whom she commiserates. Yet, she obviously spends 18-20
hours a day posting to Usenet so who do you think Karen is in real life?
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty much
like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal lives.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates they
be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal
relationship snafus.
But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful
certainly does come naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't mention is
acting stupid and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's standing in a man's
world. Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around for a while. Then it tends
to become quite odious after some prolonged exposure. It's easy to have sex
with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really want to wake up to
it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast prepared for you?
So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the
Karen types overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to
sublime helpful and intelligent, the noble and the good of
womanhood, and instead drag people
down into the sphere of her own cheerful and stupid nature, or
should we tell Karen what we all think of her. Boy, do I have
some choice words I'd
like to use? But, not knowing for sure if Karen really suffers some kind of
mental illness or is just a very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err
on the stupid and cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.
To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but
choices have consequences and at this time of year with
Christmas cheer and all would it not perhaps be better to err on
the side of caution and accept Karen not as an act but as a real
life woman with some problems such as lacking interpersonal
relationship skills? Mankind needs to do more to view
the realm of moderated chaos which is the normal female mind as a miracle
and less to view realm of totally unbridled chaos which is the mind of any
left-behind, stupid and cheerful middle-aged woman whose time has come - and
gone! I say all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the
edge can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to that
precipice.
There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine yet
there is always a hint of a sham or a deception when her
diatribes are read carefully. She may well be a master
manipulator laughing her ass off at how
she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.
You know what I'm beginning to think? To Hell with Karen! Is she even worth
this much of my time? It's typical of Karen's posts: she condemns bigotry
and injustice except when it benefits her personally which is most of the
time because she writes to inspire just that. Here's a clue. When trying to
understand what she is up to, look at what she is saying and what it's based
upon. Don't let yourself be distracted by the patter of
crocodile tears and
the vigorous hand-wringing; keep your eye on the shell that has
the pea under it. And focus your mind on the fact that if she
had her way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold country
and would act like they did so because they had found that to be the best
way to live. Now, ask yourself is that the perception of a
normal mind? I
thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told somebody she would pray
for them and then she delighted in revealing she did no such thing. Sort of
a slap to their face. And she did this believing that she has the
mandate
of
Heaven to subject human beings to these indignities while
complaining how
rotten some people treat her.
But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each point
carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of
correspondence from
people all over the country. Like most normal women Karen
networks. And one
of the things that disturbs me about her is the number of people who realize
that she loves getting up in front of people and telling them that men are
spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras.
She then boasts offline to her phony friends about how she'll
vanquish those who taunt her in a matter of days. It's all part
of the Usenet spectacle that
is
Karen Anderson. Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a pig in
mud. So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in mind
that you can't win. A pig loves mud.
Although Karen has obvious popular appeal, she likes to feel like the poor,
set upon victim. Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her
slapped silly. Such activity can flourish only in the dark
corners of a kook newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires
will probably sue for cyber bullying. If you drag it into the
open, Karen and her little dog and pony
show will probably run for cover, like cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when
the light is turned on suddenly during the night.
That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess to shine a
light on Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the
entirety of AUK. Some of
you just ain't much brighter than Karen it seems so an
explanation will do
you all good. Don't give her any more kook awards. She's playing you all for
fools just like I do and she's found how easy it is to
manipulate all of you
twits into doing her bidding.
So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen. I don't really think she's
as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself. It's an act rehearsed for
many years to have you all groveling on the floor at her queenly feet.

You actually wrote all that shit?
I'm making a cheesecake. What are you doing?

It's my screed generator, or so some of these twits claim.
I'm eating fried chicken and drinking PowerAde strawberry
lemonade. Great stuff.

Fried chicken is really hard to do well unless you deep fry it. I know a guy
who can do a wonderful job in an electric skillet. I tried it a couple of times
but I got it too greasy, so I gave up. I can do terrific onion rings though.
Best ever...

To deep fry chicken right you have to use a pressure cooker with the
right kind of cooking oil and the temp needs to be maintained around
375 degrees.

That leaves me out. I don't have any contraption like that. But I
can grill chicken pretty good.

I can sell you mine. It's in my storage where other things are that
I just had to move here and have never looked at since. I wonder if it
might need a new gasket, tho. I can't grill chicken worth a darn and
it's too much work and makes a mess in the grill. I do have a good
recipe for Lemon Grilled Chicken, tho.

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall
Onion rings are some good eating if done right. Again frying
temperature is
critical or they can leave a greasy aftertaste. Sweet Vidalia onions are my
fave.

Yes, vidalias are great for onion rings. I have a FryDaddy, which is a small
bucket with an electric heater on the bottom that maintains the oil temperature
at an exact 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Perfect for making a small batch.

I used to have a FryBaby, even smaller.

Post by Jose Gaspar
2 cups all purpose flour
3 teaspoons salt
3 teaspoons fine ground cayenne pepper
1 teaspoon ground black pepper
1/2 teaspoon dried oregano
1/4 teaspoon dried thyme
1/4 teaspoon cumin
That should be enough for 3 large onions. I usually use canola oil.
I double-batter the rings just before frying and then eat them as
soon as they cool enough.

[Jose Gaspar]

In article <Byt5l.98448$***@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Karen
says...

Post by Karen

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here, I find myself
making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those who may be
mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person could do such a fine
job acting like one so I think it's all some put on to troll gullible people
and to make herself the center of attention as she obviously has
no real life.
But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually
concerned about any
of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to prance
around on center stage? After reading this post, you'll most
likely conclude it's the
latter case. There are some kooks who sound like childish twits with their
excessive use of profanity and ad hominem attacks of a
scurrilous nature and
there some others like Karen who write a very good
representation of a stuck-on-herself, aging female who thinks
she's the center of the universe.
There are also some who are less than provocative because they sound like
mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post
after post.
I
think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds pretty much like
a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who has imagined friends all
over the country with whom she commiserates. Yet, she obviously spends 18-20
hours a day posting to Usenet so who do you think Karen is in real life?
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty much
like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal lives.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates they
be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal
relationship snafus.
But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful
certainly does come naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't mention is
acting stupid and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's standing in a man's
world. Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around for a while. Then it tends
to become quite odious after some prolonged exposure. It's easy to have sex
with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really want to wake up to
it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast prepared for you?
So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the
Karen types overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to
sublime helpful and intelligent, the noble and the good of
womanhood, and instead drag people
down into the sphere of her own cheerful and stupid nature, or
should we tell Karen what we all think of her. Boy, do I have
some choice words I'd
like to use? But, not knowing for sure if Karen really suffers some kind of
mental illness or is just a very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err
on the stupid and cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.
To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but
choices have consequences and at this time of year with
Christmas cheer and all would it not perhaps be better to err on
the side of caution and accept Karen not as an act but as a real
life woman with some problems such as lacking interpersonal
relationship skills? Mankind needs to do more to view
the realm of moderated chaos which is the normal female mind as a miracle
and less to view realm of totally unbridled chaos which is the mind of any
left-behind, stupid and cheerful middle-aged woman whose time has come - and
gone! I say all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the
edge can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to that
precipice.
There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine yet
there is always a hint of a sham or a deception when her
diatribes are read carefully. She may well be a master
manipulator laughing her ass off at how
she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.
You know what I'm beginning to think? To Hell with Karen! Is she even worth
this much of my time? It's typical of Karen's posts: she condemns bigotry
and injustice except when it benefits her personally which is most of the
time because she writes to inspire just that. Here's a clue. When trying to
understand what she is up to, look at what she is saying and what it's based
upon. Don't let yourself be distracted by the patter of
crocodile tears and
the vigorous hand-wringing; keep your eye on the shell that has
the pea under it. And focus your mind on the fact that if she
had her way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold country
and would act like they did so because they had found that to be the best
way to live. Now, ask yourself is that the perception of a
normal mind? I
thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told somebody she would pray
for them and then she delighted in revealing she did no such thing. Sort of
a slap to their face. And she did this believing that she has the
mandate
of
Heaven to subject human beings to these indignities while complaining how
rotten some people treat her.
But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each point
carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of
correspondence from
people all over the country. Like most normal women Karen networks. And one
of the things that disturbs me about her is the number of people who realize
that she loves getting up in front of people and telling them that men are
spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras.
She then boasts offline to her phony friends about how she'll
vanquish those who taunt her in a matter of days. It's all part
of the Usenet spectacle that
is
Karen Anderson. Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a pig in
mud. So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in mind
that you can't win. A pig loves mud.
Although Karen has obvious popular appeal, she likes to feel like the poor,
set upon victim. Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her
slapped silly. Such activity can flourish only in the dark
corners of a kook newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires
will probably sue for cyber bullying. If you drag it into the
open, Karen and her little dog and pony
show will probably run for cover, like cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when
the light is turned on suddenly during the night.
That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess to shine a
light on Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the
entirety of AUK. Some of
you just ain't much brighter than Karen it seems so an
explanation will do
you all good. Don't give her any more kook awards. She's playing you all for
fools just like I do and she's found how easy it is to
manipulate all of you
twits into doing her bidding.
So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen. I don't really think she's
as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself. It's an act rehearsed for
many years to have you all groveling on the floor at her queenly feet.

You actually wrote all that shit?
I'm making a cheesecake. What are you doing?

It's my screed generator, or so some of these twits claim.
I'm eating fried chicken and drinking PowerAde strawberry
lemonade. Great stuff.

Fried chicken is really hard to do well unless you deep fry it. I know a guy
who can do a wonderful job in an electric skillet. I tried it a couple of times
but I got it too greasy, so I gave up. I can do terrific onion rings though.
Best ever...

To deep fry chicken right you have to use a pressure cooker with the
right kind of cooking oil and the temp needs to be maintained around
375 degrees.

That leaves me out. I don't have any contraption like that. But I
can grill chicken pretty good.

I can sell you mine. It's in my storage where other things are that
I just had to move here and have never looked at since. I wonder if it
might need a new gasket, tho. I can't grill chicken worth a darn and
it's too much work and makes a mess in the grill. I do have a good
recipe for Lemon Grilled Chicken, tho.

I've never used a pressure cooker. I remember my mom using one when I was a kid
but it sure didn't look like she was having fun with it. I guess I could learn
though...

What we call broiling the English call grilling. Getting that straightened out
- grilling is cooking on a grill to me. Grilling chicken on a gas grill is a
waste of time - the meat will cook alright but will dry out and be tasteless.
You have to use charcoal or wood. Wood is by far the most difficult in which to
maintain the correct temperature but works very well if one has the patience. A
six pack of beer helps. Either way, it's a real challenge to get the chicken
crispy on the outside and tender and juicy on the inside, but it can be done. I
can do it but I have to tend to it constantly, so fixing other things to go with
the chicken is pretty much out of the question. Grilling chicken for myself is
also out of the question because of the time involved.

[spooge]

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here, I find
myself making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those
who may be mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person
could do such a fine
job acting like one so I think it's all some put on to troll gullible people
and to make herself the center of attention as she obviously has no
real life.
But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually concerned about any
of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to prance around
on center stage? After reading this post, you'll most likely conclude
it's the
latter case. There are some kooks who sound like childish twits with
their excessive use of profanity and ad hominem attacks of a
scurrilous nature and
there some others like Karen who write a very good representation of
a stuck-on-herself, aging female who thinks she's the center of the
universe.
There are also some who are less than provocative because they sound
like mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post
after post. I
think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds pretty much like
a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who has imagined
friends all over the country with whom she commiserates. Yet, she
obviously spends 18-20
hours a day posting to Usenet so who do you think Karen is in real life?
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty much
like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal lives.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and
advocates they
be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal relationship snafus.
But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful
certainly does come naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't
mention is acting stupid and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's
standing in a man's world. Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around
for a while. Then it tends to become quite odious after some
prolonged exposure. It's easy to have sex
with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really want to wake up to
it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast prepared for you?
So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the Karen
types overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to sublime
helpful and intelligent, the noble and the good of womanhood, and
instead drag people down into the sphere of her own cheerful and
stupid nature, or should we tell Karen what we all think of her. Boy,
do I have some choice words I'd like to use? But, not knowing for
sure if Karen really suffers some kind of
mental illness or is just a very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err
on the stupid and cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.
To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but
choices have consequences and at this time of year with Christmas
cheer and all would it not perhaps be better to err on the side of
caution and accept Karen not as an act but as a real life woman with
some problems such as lacking interpersonal relationship skills?
Mankind needs to do more to view
the realm of moderated chaos which is the normal female mind as a
miracle and less to view realm of totally unbridled chaos which is
the mind of any left-behind, stupid and cheerful middle-aged woman
whose time has come - and
gone! I say all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the
edge can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to that
precipice.
There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine yet there
is always a hint of a sham or a deception when her diatribes are read
carefully. She may well be a master manipulator laughing her ass off at how
she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.
You know what I'm beginning to think? To Hell with Karen! Is she even worth
this much of my time? It's typical of Karen's posts: she condemns
bigotry and injustice except when it benefits her personally which is
most of the time because she writes to inspire just that. Here's a
clue. When trying to
understand what she is up to, look at what she is saying and what it's based
upon. Don't let yourself be distracted by the patter of crocodile tears and
the vigorous hand-wringing; keep your eye on the shell that has the
pea under it. And focus your mind on the fact that if she had her
way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold
country and would act like they did so because they had found that to
be the best way to live. Now, ask yourself is that the perception of
a normal mind? I thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told
somebody she would pray
for them and then she delighted in revealing she did no such thing. Sort of
a slap to their face. And she did this believing that she has the mandate of
Heaven to subject human beings to these indignities while complaining
how rotten some people treat her.
But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each
point carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of
correspondence from
people all over the country. Like most normal women Karen networks.
And one
of the things that disturbs me about her is the number of people who realize
that she loves getting up in front of people and telling them that
men are spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras.
She then boasts offline to her phony friends about how she'll
vanquish those who taunt her in a matter of days. It's all part of
the Usenet spectacle that is
Karen Anderson. Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a
pig in mud. So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in
mind that you can't win. A pig loves mud.
Although Karen has obvious popular appeal, she likes to feel like the poor,
set upon victim. Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her
slapped silly. Such activity can flourish only in the dark corners of
a kook newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires will probably sue
for cyber bullying. If you drag it into the open, Karen and her
little dog and pony show will probably run for cover, like
cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when the light is turned on suddenly
during the night.
That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess to shine a light on
Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the entirety of AUK.
Some of you just ain't much brighter than Karen it seems so an
explanation will do you all good. Don't give her any more kook
awards. She's playing you all for
fools just like I do and she's found how easy it is to manipulate all of you
twits into doing her bidding.
So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen. I don't really think
she's as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself. It's an act
rehearsed for many years to have you all groveling on the floor at
her queenly feet.

You actually wrote all that shit?
I'm making a cheesecake. What are you doing?

It's my screed generator, or so some of these twits claim.

That rant is so stupid it is clearly your own original work, greg.

Post by Gregory Hall
I'm eating fried chicken and drinking PowerAde strawberry lemonade.
Great stuff.

Meals like that will guarantee more silly rants from you in the future.

[PyrateJohn]

Post by Gregory Hall
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty much
like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal lives.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates they
be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal relationship snafus.
But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful
certainly does come naturally to her

Gregory, Anderson is often highly medicated. She has a history of
depression and she often writes in private that she's suicidal.

So yeah, her "happy" side is natural in the sense of "better living
through chemistry" because she's taking her meds. And they are making
her upbeat.

When she's unmedicated or having troubles, that's when she comes out
of hiding and starts pretending to be Gaspar or Lumpy and writing back
and forth between her nyms.

[Jose Gaspar]

In article <7417b7c6-a798-4402-b2b5-***@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
PyrateJohn says...

Post by PyrateJohn

Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty mu=

ch

like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal liv=

es.

I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates t=

hey

be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal relationship snafu=

s.

But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheer=

ful

certainly does come naturally to her

Gregory, Anderson is often highly medicated. She has a history of
depression and she often writes in private that she's suicidal.
So yeah, her "happy" side is natural in the sense of "better living
through chemistry" because she's taking her meds. And they are making
her upbeat.
When she's unmedicated or having troubles, that's when she comes out
of hiding and starts pretending to be Gaspar or Lumpy and writing back
and forth between her nyms.

This is cute... Look at John Gilmer's blog:

http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com/

If you are bored to tears, read back and you'll see that there's nothing that
anyone can say about John Boy that John Boy hasn't said about himself. Go back
a few years and he had a job and a girlfriend who had a job. Deborah Lynch
owned a house which they lived in. PyrateJohn, PirateJohn, John Gilmer didn't
have a pot to piss in. With John Boy's help, Deb lost her house. She was obese
but decent looking when she met John Boy but now she looks like fried liver and
much fatter than before.

After Deb lost her house they moved into a driveway in the slums of Jacksonville
Florida. They live in an old bus built back in the early 1980s. Now they're
parked in some godforsaken RV park in southern Texas. When you're broke and the
scum of the earth, you go to southern Texas.

[PyrateJohn]

Post by Jose Gaspar
PyrateJohn says...

Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts pretty mu=

ch

like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in our personal liv=

es.

I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and cheerful" and advocates t=

hey

be that way on purpose in order to avoid interpersonal relationship snafu=

s.

But, therein lies the problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheer=

ful

certainly does come naturally to her

Gregory, Anderson is often highly medicated.  She has a history of
depression and she often writes in private that she's suicidal.
So yeah, her "happy" side is natural in the sense of "better living
through chemistry" because she's taking her meds.  And they are making
her upbeat.
When she's unmedicated or having troubles, that's when she comes out
of hiding and starts pretending to be Gaspar or Lumpy and writing back
and forth between her nyms.

http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com/
If you are bored to tears, read back and you'll see that there's nothing that
anyone can say about John Boy that John Boy hasn't said about himself.  Go back
a few years and he had a job and a girlfriend who had a job.  

We've both got "jobs" Karen. Actually, we call them "careers" ...
"job" sounds too much like when you were a waitress at a truck stop.

We just don't have the kinds of careers that you can relate to or
troll, that's all.

We were exploring a great Mexican ghost town, almost an hour off the
paved roads and literally requiring driving 1/8th of a mile across a
lake to find. That beats the shit out of being stuck in the snow and
trolling other people like you, now doesn't it Karen?

Someone (and I have no idea who it is so it's not like it's a personal
bud of mine) posted the following comment on my blog a few days ago:

"Very interesting blog and post. Glad I stumbled across this, seems
like a pretty fulfilling and laid-back existence."

I'm writing about the 2nd half of our trip, to the beautiful city of
Monterrey. That will be up in a day or two.

So thanks for helping to publicize my blog Karen, especially since you
are so basically clueless and desperate these days ;)



--PirateJohn--

http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com

[Jose Gaspar]

In article <6941e783-9108-41c1-a01b-***@17g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
PyrateJohn says...

com>,

Post by Jose Gaspar
PyrateJohn says...

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s.

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ful

certainly does come naturally to her

Gregory, Anderson is often highly medicated. =A0She has a history of
depression and she often writes in private that she's suicidal.
So yeah, her "happy" side is natural in the sense of "better living
through chemistry" because she's taking her meds. =A0And they are making
her upbeat.
When she's unmedicated or having troubles, that's when she comes out
of hiding and starts pretending to be Gaspar or Lumpy and writing back
and forth between her nyms.

http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com/
If you are bored to tears, read back and you'll see that there's nothing
that anyone can say about John Boy that John Boy hasn't said about himself.
Go back a few years and he had a job and a girlfriend who had a job.

We've both got "jobs" Karen.

I'm not Karen, no matter how much you grovel and beg for me to be her...

Actually, we call them "careers" ...

Cleaning toilets?

We just don't have the kinds of careers that you can relate to

Yes. That's right. I can't relate to having a 'career' cleaning toilets. But
I'm sure you can...

We were exploring a great Mexican ghost town, almost an hour off the
paved roads and literally requiring driving 1/8th of a mile across a
lake to find.

So that's the highlight of your useless, fucking life? You have reached your
pinnacle and you're still just a paycheck away from being homeless.

Someone (and I have no idea who it is so it's not like it's a personal
"Very interesting blog and post. Glad I stumbled across this, seems
like a pretty fulfilling and laid-back existence."

You got a reply because someone 'stumbled' across your blog. That's it. Anyone
who knows you won't give you the time of day. You are despised wherever you go.
Have you gotten more than a half dozen replies to your blog in the past year?
That's how worthless you are. No one gives a shit about you except a few who
keep poking you with sticks and you keep falling for it every time.

I'm writing about the 2nd half of our trip, to the beautiful city of
Monterrey. That will be up in a day or two.

I'll be sure to read it and laugh at your worthless, fucking ass. I doubt that
many others will read it though...

[Karen]

Post by Jose Gaspar
In article
PyrateJohn says...

Post by PyrateJohn

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by PyrateJohn
When she's unmedicated or having troubles, that's when she comes out
of hiding and starts pretending to be Gaspar or Lumpy and writing
back and forth between her nyms.

http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com/
If you are bored to tears, read back and you'll see that there's
nothing that anyone can say about John Boy that John Boy hasn't
said about himself. Go back a few years and he had a job and a
girlfriend who had a job.

We've both got "jobs" Karen.

I'm not Karen, no matter how much you grovel and beg for me to be her...

Well, he does swing both ways so it doesn't matter if Karen is a female
or a male. He's obsessed with me either way. Even the cat he named for
me can "substitute". It's disgusting...

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by PyrateJohn
Actually, we call them "careers" ...

Cleaning toilets?

Post by PyrateJohn
We just don't have the kinds of careers that you can relate to

Yes. That's right. I can't relate to having a 'career' cleaning
toilets. But I'm sure you can...

Experienced POO tank dumper ... He has sunk to handling Deb's feces.
But he's got a "career". LOL...

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by PyrateJohn
We were exploring a great Mexican ghost town, almost an hour off the
paved roads and literally requiring driving 1/8th of a mile across a
lake to find.

So that's the highlight of your useless, fucking life? You have
reached your pinnacle and you're still just a paycheck away from
being homeless.

Who said he's a "blown gasket" away from being homeless? He has got
this compulsion to spin, spin and spin his life into appearing to be
something wonderful. What would he ever do without internet access???

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by PyrateJohn
Someone (and I have no idea who it is so it's not like it's a
personal bud of mine) posted the following comment on my blog a few
"Very interesting blog and post. Glad I stumbled across this, seems
like a pretty fulfilling and laid-back existence."

You got a reply because someone 'stumbled' across your blog. That's
it. Anyone who knows you won't give you the time of day. You are
despised wherever you go. Have you gotten more than a half dozen
replies to your blog in the past year? That's how worthless you are.
No one gives a shit about you except a few who keep poking you with
sticks and you keep falling for it every time.

He's a "self-made celebrity" and now he believes his own publicity. He
created "PirateJohn" and now he's DETERMINED to create a totslly
different and alternate Karen Anderson and I'm determined to keep
setting the record straight and presenting the FACTS and TRUTH.

But he's persistent and just keeps whacking away with the same
repetitious crap, figuring if he repeats throwing shit long enough some
of it will eventually stick. If he would apply some of that persistence
and determination to positive things he might get somewhere in life.

Post by Jose Gaspar

Post by PyrateJohn
I'm writing about the 2nd half of our trip, to the beautiful city of
Monterrey. That will be up in a day or two.

I'll be sure to read it and laugh at your worthless, fucking ass. I
doubt that many others will read it though...

I will. Gotta do my part .. <g>

[PyrateJohn]

 With John Boy's help, Deb lost her house.  

LOL! What spin!

What stupidity, for that matter ;)

You own a "condo" in a depressed industrial town. The unit across the
hall from you was renting for $350/month not too long ago. Real estate
values have dropped like a rock. There is a unit near yours that is
being foreclosed on. C'mon! You aren't exactly living the life of
Reily, Karen!

We sold our house within a few months of the market crashing, and we
got top dollar for it. We used some techniques that we then used to
sell some other houses. Remember how you were claiming last year that
what we did was fraudulent and that you were going to complain to
someone? That went pretty far, didn't it Karen? LOL!

Since you read my blog like a hawk, even if you distort what's in
there, you surely noticed that we have been making noises about
getting a Newell motorhome. Not buying a house - but buying another
motorhome.

You may not be smart enough (or brave enough) to figure this one out
Karen, but being a full-time RV'er is precisely what we wanted to do
and more than a few folks have asked me how they can do what we are
doing.

Yeah ... your wonderful travel trailer is on your web page Karen ...
as a warning to others that you are looking for a meal ticket.

http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Anderson1.htm

[Jose Gaspar]

In article <0d90a925-1fb7-456a-a662-***@v5g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
PyrateJohn says...

Post by PyrateJohn

=A0With John Boy's help, Deb lost her house. =A0

LOL! What spin!
What stupidity, for that matter ;)
You own a "condo" in a depressed industrial town.

I live in Florida and you well know it...

Post by PyrateJohn
We sold our house within a few months of the market crashing, and we
got top dollar for it.

It was 'Slim's' house - not yours. There was no 'we' involved. Papers were
served on Slim and EVERYONE else living in the house, so you had to beat it out
with the motorhome. You stayed in RV parks until Slim sold the house, otherwise
you would have been involved in the lawsuit. Meanwhile, while alone, you were
furiously advertising for another whore.

'Slim' didn't get top dollar for it because she did a short sale, which means
she sold it for less than what she owed on it. Of course she was in the real
estate business and when she refinanced the house to buy you the motorhome, she
may have gotten an unscrupulous appraiser to overvalue the house. It's been
done before.

Post by PyrateJohn
We used some techniques that we then used to
sell some other houses. Remember how you were claiming last year that
what we did was fraudulent and that you were going to complain to
someone?

That was because you said at least twice that 'Slim' owned houses and was
renting them. That meant that she was hiding assets when she declared she owned
none when she did the short sale of the house. So that comes down to the
question: Does she own houses under pseudonames as you claimed or were you
lying?

Post by PyrateJohn
Since you read my blog like a hawk, even if you distort what's in
there, you surely noticed that we have been making noises about
getting a Newell motorhome.

You're always making fucking noises. Mostly farting, though... You're dangling
on the end of a mostly bare thread and soon it will break. Then we won't here
from you anymore...

[PyrateJohn]

 Then we won't here
from you anymore...

You won't "here" from me any more? That's fucking funny, considering
how you've been trying to convince us that a part-time waitress who
spent most of her life in and out of metal health institutions is some
sort of frippin' genius. Bahahahahhahahahahaahhahahahahaha!!

It's funny that none of us "here" from you or your nyms for months at
a time, until you get depressed and have to come back to newsgroups,
bawling for attention because no one IRL loves or cares about you.

Take your meds Karen. Take your meds. You are making a spectacle out
of yourself.

[Karen]

Post by PyrateJohn

Post by Jose Gaspar
With John Boy's help, Deb lost her house.

LOL! What spin!
What stupidity, for that matter ;)

Yes. The winky ;) is appropriate. You are the one *spinning* now.
Let's see what the truth is....

Post by PyrateJohn
You own a "condo" in a depressed industrial town.

No, he does not. He owns a beautiful home Central Florida that he BUILT
with his own two hands. Can you even successfully pound a nail into a
board with a hammer?

The unit across the

Post by PyrateJohn
hall from you was renting for $350/month not too long ago.

If you're referring to ME/KAREN, you have now admitted to STALKING me
and SNOOPING around in my life.

There is no "across the hall from me" so you've got the wrong location.
The rent here is close to TRIPLE the figures you have found. WRONG
AGAIN, Mr. Bean Counter.

Real estate

Post by PyrateJohn
values have dropped like a rock. There is a unit near yours that is
being foreclosed on. C'mon!

There are foreclosures everywhere in the Country in all price ranges.
What is your point? I OWN my condo and there will be NO foreclosure
here, STALKER/SNOOPER. There are owners here who live in South Carolina
and rent out their condo units.

You aren't exactly living the life of

Post by PyrateJohn
Reily, Karen!

I am very satisfied and comfortable. No debts. A VERY SECURE roof over
my head. I have no NEED to impress anybody or STEAL from someone to
support a lifestyle I can't pay for myself. That would be.....YOU,
PirateJohn Gilmer (ftse).

a few months of the market crashing, and we

Post by PyrateJohn
got top dollar for it.

We? You moved in with that strange woman you found in a personals ad,
made a mortgage payment when she couldn't, and now you are claiming
joint ownership of her house? You were off hiding in the bus somewhere
in an undisclosed location while Deb was attempting to sell HER house.
After the deal was sealed, she moved back in with you and you came out
of hiding and set up housekeeping in a DRIVEWAY behind a board fence
next to a couple of temporary garages you were renting. You hooked up
to the electricity in the vacant house on the property and probably
stole electricity from the owner of the property. You also managed to
get into that house to take pictures of every room, in spite of various
locks put on the doors, one belonging to the actual agent who had the
listing for the property. Deb knows how to pick locks, does she? Why
not? She knows how to abscond with escrow money .. but that's another
story, eh?

We used some techniques

"techniques" ? Like "Deb and I don't mind bending the rules to get
what we want out of life"? Those kind of "techniques"? Or this kind?:
Putting her properties in various pseudonym names, putting the bus in
your name and sending you off to hide in it so she could claim she lived
alone and had no other assets but her home. Where does the "we" come in
when it comes to ownership of that house she only had a short time
before you scammed her into letting you move in?

that we then used to

Post by PyrateJohn
sell some other houses. Remember how you were claiming last year that
what we did was fraudulent and that you were going to complain to
someone? That went pretty far, didn't it Karen? LOL!

Why are you talking to me? That legal stuff is Jose's area of
expertise; not mine. Why did you two slip out of Jacksonville so fast
with no intention of returning, leaving behind all your motorcyles,
tools and 2 garages full of your "stuff"? What are you two RUNNING FROM?
You had all these many "friends"....barflies in biker bars...not to
mention various BAR TABS you have skipped out on.

Post by PyrateJohn
Yeah ... your wonderful travel trailer is on your web page Karen ...
as a warning to others that you are looking for a meal ticket.
http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Anderson1.htm

Egad! Right there is CLEAR evidence you have lost your mind.

I paid CASH for my NEW travel trailer and my new Blazer. CASH. They
can't be repo'd and I still own them both....free and clear. My trailer
is in covered storage in OR near the factory where it was built to my
specifications. I don't want to sell it because I intend to have it
towed somewhere, but can't decide where. Once it gets there it will be
stored when I'm not living in it and I have to consider the climate.
That would leave the *cheap* South out beause of the raging humidity,
insects, etc. I might move it to Las Vegas (again the extreme HEAT when
I'm not there using it) or Reno. More likely somewhere in northern
California or even south central OR.
The LAST thing I want is another person in my life. I have more than
enough to do to take care of my two cats and travel with them.

You can post all the "BEWARE"s you want to.....it amounts to as much as
the rest of the slanderous GARBAGE you've got on that sight. You are an
example of what is wrong with the Internet. Who is hosting that crap?
Maybe they'll host all your emails to me and the x-rated pictures I've
found in your albums. Give me their name and address...

You again project YOUR M.O. onto me. You are the one placing personal
ads trying to snag women you can sponge off of. That's how you met Deb.
I know. Now you have placed a new ad unbeknownst to her for your NEXT
meal ticket in case she gets fed up and leaves or mysteriously ... dies.

I have zero interest or intent in snagging any man to "take me to warmer
climate" or anywhere else. Nor do I want 5c of any man's money. I
don't want to have to pay (if'n you get my drift) for that money....and
I don't need it. This is just another of your slanderous hatchet jobs
on me. I do appreciate that you give me opportunities like this to set
the record straight and point out that you are a compulsive liar and an
obsessed and abusive sadist who is determined to do what you can to
destroy me because you fucked up and I caught you. Is that why you beat
your wives....? They caught you in a web of lies?

If your fingers are tapping on a keyboard or your huge lips are
flapping, it's for sure that you are L-Y-I-N-G. Did you decide as a
small child that you wanted to grow up to be a LIAR, a Con Artist and a
Deadbeat?

Sometimes I wonder how Deb can put up with your lying, but then I
realize she's no better than you are and she's lies to you like you lie
to her. Remember her husband, Robert Gettman? You didn't even know she
was married to him till we pushed you to ask her about him. LOL Does
she know you are still married to Joey Marzec....even if you now refer
to her as your "ex"? Remember your "housemate" that you neglected to
tell me you were MARRIED to??

You are very sick, John. Can't you see it?

Who can't?

--
"My bonus: Several thousand $$$ from The Day Job a few months ago,
several
hundred extra during X-mas, and a $30K soft loan from a friend to buy
some
property about a month ago." PirateJohn December 24, 2003

[Lumped]

On Dec 23, 7:27 pm, "Karen" <***@nospam.wa> wrote:
summary of Gilmer's decline.

I think the lady has your number, John. And Lynch's, for that matter.

[Karen]

Post by PyrateJohn

Post by Gregory Hall
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts
pretty much like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in
our personal lives. I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and
cheerful" and advocates they be that way on purpose in order to
avoid interpersonal relationship snafus. But, therein lies the
problem for poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful certainly
does come naturally to her

Gregory, Anderson is often highly medicated.

That is NOT true. You don't know me any better than some stranger on
the street. You are the NUT. And a compulsive LIAR.

She has a history of

Post by PyrateJohn
depression and she often writes in private that she's suicidal.

Yes and NO. I have Clinical Depression as a result of MS and intensive
and lengthy steroid therapy. I haven't had a bout with depression in
several years now. I feel the same all the time, every day with no mood
swings.....unlike YOU.
I am not "suicidal" and never was. And how would YOU know what I write
in private since our last emails in 2005?? More of your LIES and
slander.

When you are depressed (because of your fuck-ups and failures in life),
you either drown your sorrows in alcohol or contemplate "taking a gun to
Wal-mart and start shooting" while taking powerful meds for depression.
You WROTE ME THAT. Should I post it?

Post by PyrateJohn
So yeah, her "happy" side is natural in the sense of "better living
through chemistry" because she's taking her meds. And they are making
her upbeat.

Flat-Out LIE and you are just bullshitting. You know absolutely NOTHING
about what medications I take or for what. I'm not guzzling pain pills
like you do because you are such a wimp you can't tolerate a moment of
any kind of discomfort.

Post by PyrateJohn
When she's unmedicated or having troubles, that's when she comes out
of hiding and starts pretending to be Gaspar or Lumpy and writing back
and forth between her nyms.

Are you drunk? Why do you write such crap again and again and expect it
to float? This Aussie shrink is trying to figure out the wrong person.
He ought to study you awhile. He'll go screaming off into the
Australian Bush when he gets the bead on you like I've got.

I don't "hide" -- there's not much worth reading on Usenet anymore
because YOU have driven the decent people away that I enjoyed
reading....like Harry Krause and a few on other groups you infest, too.
I also don't have the addictive need that you have to perform for an
audience and draw attention to yourself, even if totally negative. I
don't NEED to be NOTICED. You've got a severe problem with your ego and
delusions of grandeur.

You just created about a dozen nyms a couple weeks back and they were
replying to each other about me. Why do you insist in projecting your
bizarre behavior onto me?

Lumpy is NOT me and never was. You know that as you wished him well as
he was waiting out his time in the Hospice. You knew you weren't
talking to ME/Karen. I could arrange to meet with him anytime to have
our picture taken together but I would never do that to please you.
You'd find some way to claim it wasn't one or both of us anyway. Like
you did the pictures you asked Jose to take around Arcadia, FL and then
claimed you didn't recognize the places....when you had a DOZEN pictures
of one of the places in an online album from when you were there. You
are a nutcase. And you lie like a dimestore RUG.

You were determined to meet "Jose Gaspar" to find out WHO and WHERE he
is and you're too STUPID to do that and we are too determined you aren't
going to find out. We win. I guess he wouldn't care, especially now
that you've vamoosed from FL. But I know you are a loose cannon and I
have no doubt you will stalk him, his lady friend and their grown
children and likely harm them. I won't let that happen because of your
obsession with ME/Karen.

You insisted on and arranged to MEET "Jose" only because you deluded
yourself into believing it was going to be me/Karen. You claim I'm
broke and living on the streets, eating in soup kitchens, but I was
suddenly going to fly to FL because you wanted to meet me?!?! You had
your chance in 2004 and you blew it. I saw YOU, but you will NEVER see
me....unless it's in a courtroom. Accept that you fucked up....again.
And "Go Away"....

"Jose" was there. He got a look at you and decided he didn't care to
talk to you so he listened to his gut instincts and drove away. I was
so glad he put his safety before all else. You had your GUN with you in
addition to cameras and tape recorder, probably your knife. I never
approved of this meeting but he assured me he wouldn't tell you his name
or let you see his license #. I was apprehensive, to say the least.
You are NOT to be TRUSTED....ever.

Meanwhile you have a chilling set of pictures in an album entitled
"karen anderson" that indicate you were positively euphoric at the
prospect of meeting KAREN at last. You promised to post a file of the
tape recording where you were talking to yourself about watching for
KAREN. Let's hear it ...

You are DELUSIONAL, John, and if you can't see that, you are even more
mentally-ill ... and dangerous. You really shouldn't be wandering
around loose for you are a ticking time bomb and somebody is going to
end up dead. I suspect some already are, thanks to you...

[PyrateJohn]

"Jose" was there.  He got a look at you and decided he didn't care to
talk to you so he listened to his gut instincts and drove away.  I was
so glad he put his safety before all else.  You had your GUN with you in
addition to cameras and tape recorder, probably your knife.  I never
approved of this meeting but he assured me he wouldn't tell you his name
or let you see his license #.  I was apprehensive, to say the least.
You are NOT to be TRUSTED....ever.

And, of course, you've been pretending that your Gaspar sockpuppet was
some tough ex-military dude that liked to hunt. Acccording to you he
got awfully chicken shit in an hurry! LOL!

Well guys ... don't you think that what Anderson writes is about the
most insane stuff that you've ever read?

kOOk, KooK, kadodle-do.

[ah]

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's ....
[snip 100+ line LURVE LETR]

Go-ahead: just ask her out, Man!

[PyrateJohn]

Post by ah

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's ....
[snip 100+ line LURVE LETR]

Go-ahead: just ask her out, Man!
--
ah

Even Gregory has his standards ;)

[ah]

Post by PyrateJohn

Post by ah

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's ....
[snip 100+ line LURVE LETR]

Go-ahead: just ask her out, Man!
--
ah

Even Gregory has his standards ;)

LIES!

[John "C"]

Post by PyrateJohn

Post by ah

Post by Gregory Hall
Wow, I'm still amazed. I think I've finally read the rantings of a true kook
here in AUK.
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's ....
[snip 100+ line LURVE LETR]

Go-ahead: just ask her out, Man!
--
ah

Even Gregory has his standards ;)

LIES!
--
"ah"
meow

SHUTTUP, DECO-SLURPER !!!!
--
Your Pal,
HJ

[Karen]

Post by Gregory Hall
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here,

"private diaries" ?

I find

Post by Gregory Hall
myself making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those
who may be mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person
could do such a fine job acting like one so I think it's all some put
on to troll gullible people and to make herself the center of
attention as she obviously has no real life.

1) I certainly do have a real life and I'm very satisfied with it.
Mostly, I do things for the betterment of others....people and animals.
2) I am not mentally-ill or pretending to be.
3) Typical thick male minds don't understand that the ANGER emotion in
a woman doesn't equote to "crazy" or "insane" or "mentally-ill". I have
every right to be damn angry about what certain people have done to me
and I have retaliated by aggressively setting the record
straight...again and again.
4) I have no interest in or need to make myself the center of
attention. Others are doing that to me with their obsessions and
enjoyment to abuse others they feel they can.

Post by Gregory Hall
But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually concerned
about any of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to
prance around on center stage?

Concerned only when it is directed at me. I was silent for years and
let the abuse continue. Since it never stopped and was actually "bait"
to get me to respond, I finally have. MOSTLY, to get my information
archived at Google. Do you think I would be replying to YOU otherwise?

I wish nobody would ever reply to me. There a select few people who are
obsessed with keeping a WAR with me going.....forever. They are the
ones doing the "prancing".

After reading this post, you'll most

Post by Gregory Hall
likely conclude it's the latter case.

I've already concluded you have no clue what's been going on for TEN
YEARS with me and some very weird and "mentally-ill" people.

There are some kooks who sound

Post by Gregory Hall
like childish twits with their excessive use of profanity and ad
hominem attacks of a scurrilous nature and there some others like
Karen who write a very good representation of a stuck-on-herself,
aging female who thinks she's the center of the universe.

I am. MY Universe. I am only defending myself with the TRUTH and facts
about myself and those who attack me as if they are equals of mine.
They are disgusting people and far beneath me in class and
accomplishments. They wouldn't DARE act in real life toward me as they
can on Usenet.

There are

Post by Gregory Hall
also some who are less than provocative because they sound like
mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post after
post.

A lot of that sort of repetition is directed at me even when proved to
be false. Repeated signature lines and posting my home address nearly
2000 times. Reposting the same lengthy screed laced with all lies about
two individuals (one being me) and cross-posting it to several groups
dozens of times every day for weeks and months. Spamming and
flooding....and their isps let them get away with it.

I think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds

Post by Gregory Hall
pretty much like a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who
has imagined friends all over the country with whom she commiserates.

1) I am not a troll.
2) You are far more "clueless" than me.
3) I'm clearly unlike most women so am not "stereotypical".
4) Not divorced. My parents not divorced either. Nobody in my family
or among my lifelong friends.
5) Not a "housewife" -- never was.
6) My "friends" are all VERY real people. I mistakenly thought 2 of my
current abusers were internet "friends". WRONG. If you saw my
Christmas card postmarks, you would see they are from "all over the
country.

Post by Gregory Hall
Yet, she obviously spends 18-20 hours a day posting to Usenet so who
do you think Karen is in real life?

Not someone who spends 18-20 hours a day posting to Usenet except on a
couple of recent occasions. Find where I posted at ALL during 2005
through 2007.

Post by Gregory Hall
Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts
pretty much like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in
our personal lives.

OK. Now you admit my "rants are very believable". You get a gold star
for that because you are right. I am posting for the purpose of getting
the truth and facts on record and archived on google to offset SOME of
the slander and ugliness heaped on me non-stop for many years when I
never replied at all.

I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and

Post by Gregory Hall
cheerful" and advocates they be that way on purpose in order to avoid
interpersonal relationship snafus. But, therein lies the problem for
poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful certainly does come
naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't mention is acting stupid
and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's standing in a man's world.

Where/when did you decide I was "acting stupid and cheerful"? I am
neither stupid or cheerful when dealing with vicious assholes on Usenet.
I would only be "acting" if I played "nicey-nice" and wanted to get
along with EVERYONE. That seems to be my problem. Because I don't CARE
if a lot of people don't like me, that just throws most people into a
tizzy. They can't get that at all...!! I must be a "koOk" then. If I
tell the truth and present the facts, then for SURE I have to be a
"koOk". That's not how things work in MY world -- the real world. YMMV

Post by Gregory Hall
Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around for a while. Then it tends
to become quite odious after some prolonged exposure.

That's how I feel about others. I think these people are
"pretending/acting". Nobody is "nice" all the time and always laughing
and smiling, even without any obvious reason to.

It's easy to

Post by Gregory Hall
have sex with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really
want to wake up to it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast
prepared for you?

My, my but you seem to be a male chauvinist. Where does it say that YOU
couldn't be the one to prepare breakfast?

Post by Gregory Hall
So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the Karen
types overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to sublime
helpful and intelligent, the noble and the good of womanhood, and
instead drag people down into the sphere of her own cheerful and
stupid nature,

Gibberish that has no answer. Are there any "normal" men is a better
question. Plenty of women wonder about that...

Post by Gregory Hall
or should we tell Karen what we all think of her.

Oh, I think that has been done more than sufficietly. If it's on or
comes from AUK I likely don't see it.

Boy,

Post by Gregory Hall
do I have some choice words I'd like to use?

I don't know; do you?

But, not knowing for

Post by Gregory Hall
sure if Karen really suffers some kind of mental illness or is just a
very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err on the stupid and
cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.

You are too insignificant to me to ever "drive me over the edge". Don't
flatter yourself, Greggy.

Post by Gregory Hall
To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but
choices have consequences and at this time of year with Christmas
cheer and all would it not perhaps be better to err on the side of
caution and accept Karen not as an act but as a real life woman with
some problems such as lacking interpersonal relationship skills?

You were doing very good till you got to the "interpersonal relatioship"
part. I made my living working with and entertaining others. And I
dealt with ALL types, believe me. You aren't suggesting that I don't
know how to get along well with the kind of people who inhabit most of
the Usenet groups now? Because if you are, then you don't realize that
I don't suffer fools gladly and am more intelligent than a large percent
of the fools who post on newsgroups cause they have no audience anywhere
else in their sorry lives. I refuse to banter back and forth with them
as if we are all "equals"; we aren't. I wouldn't associate by choice
with such idiots in real life, so why should I on Usenet? Tell me how
any normal and sane person can take the people who hang out on AUK
seriously? Most don't even communicate in a kind of English I can
comprehend. Their judgement and opinion of me means diddly squat in the
grand scheme of things in my life.

Post by Gregory Hall
Mankind needs to do more to view the realm of moderated chaos which
is the normal female mind as a miracle

Unlike men....we can multi-task in our actions at the same time we can
in our minds. We are always superior to men except in brute strength.
Most men can't deal with women so they just claim they are "insane"
"crazy" or "mentally ill". I am smarter, more capable and
accomplished then both of my male abusers put together. They can't
understand that or accept it. So they cry out "insane" and
"mentally-ill" etc. etc.

and less to view realm of

Post by Gregory Hall
totally unbridled chaos which is the mind of any left-behind, stupid
and cheerful middle-aged woman whose time has come - and gone!

That wouldn't be me. I was never "left-behind". That would be the
women who were never more than wives and mothers. Had no life of their
own or individual accomplishments....they were caretakers of a man and
ungrateful kids and now greedy grandkids. I made a life for myself and
still have one. I'm not an extension of someone else, nor dependent on
anybody else. Kinda proud of my independence and good sense. Too bad I
didn't realize Usenet contains very few people like me and is more like
wandering into a zoo full of insane monkeys.

I say

Post by Gregory Hall
all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the edge
can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to
that precipice.

What Karen "seems" and what Karen "is" are obviously beyond your grasp.
Getting "DAMN MAD" is significant ANGER; it's not "mental illness".
Have you never been VERY ANGRY? Isn't "anger" a normal and justified
emotion?

Post by Gregory Hall
There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine

Well....there you go. Hang onto and focus on that.

yet there

Post by Gregory Hall
is always a hint of a sham or a deception when her diatribes are read
carefully.

Take what I write at face value. I am being as direct and blunt as I
can be. Anger does that to me. I get right in your face and you have
no doubt what I feel or why.

She may well be a master manipulator laughing her ass off

Post by Gregory Hall
at how she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.

If I do that, it's certainly not my intention. It's more like I am the
victim of that being done to me. I'm aware of it now where I wasn't at
all in the past. I didn't realize how I was being "baited" and that my
writing was "cheap entertainment" to some. They didn't care WHAT I
wrote or revealed aboutg them as long as they felt they had controlled
and manipulated me by writiing enough outrageous lies to cause me to
respond in an impassioned way.

Post by Gregory Hall
You know what I'm beginning to think?

You are just "beginning to think" at this point? Why am I not
surprised? LOL

To Hell with Karen! Is she even

Post by Gregory Hall
worth this much of my time?

CLEARLY, not. Don't ever do this again. Life is much too short.

It's typical of Karen's posts: she

Post by Gregory Hall
condemns bigotry and injustice

Where did I "condemn bigotry"? I've been accused for years of being a
"racist". "Injustice" is another matter. I ABHOR it and am the victim
of it and that is what fuels my anger and emotional writing. Why do I
have to be the *victim* of someone far beneath me on the ladder of life?

except when it benefits her personally

Post by Gregory Hall
which is most of the time because she writes to inspire just that.

I have jumped in MANY times to defend others and fought like a tigress
for the very people who NOW have been abusing me. Fair-Weather Friends
to say the least. Backstabbers is more like it. People who ONLY care
about themselves and never anyone else.

Post by Gregory Hall
Here's a clue. When trying to understand what she is up to, look at
what she is saying and what it's based upon.

Yes...and do some homework and check out some history on Google
Archives. Get some background on WHY I find it necessary to fight back
against all the LIES and GARBAGE spread around about me. This crap has
gone on for so long that it has become "facts" to people who just
recently skim the surface.

Don't let yourself be

Post by Gregory Hall
distracted by the patter of crocodile tears and the vigorous
hand-wringing;

That would be Gilmer, actually. He plays "victim" while being a very
effective ABUSER and BULLY.....a wife-beater in real life. He went to
AUK in hopes they would "help" him beat me down by shaming me with
various "awards". I know too much and he is desperate to silence me,
but he can't quite do that so the next thing is to destroy my
credibility so nobody will believe me when I reveal a few things I know
about him.

keep your eye on the shell that has the pea under it.

Post by Gregory Hall
And focus your mind on the fact that if she had her way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold
country and would act like they did so because they had found that to
be the best way to live.

Heavens NO. I don't want ANYBODY moving up here, especially if they are
going to squat somewhere in a broke down RV. We have spectacular
scenery. Don't want no crap of any kind spoiling it. Don't move to
Wisconsin, either!!

Now, ask yourself is that the perception of

Post by Gregory Hall
a normal mind?

I'm asking myself by now if YOURS is a "normal mind". I see only a
couple of glimmers so far .. ;')

I thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told

Post by Gregory Hall
somebody she would pray for them and then she delighted in revealing
she did no such thing. Sort of a slap to their face.

See? You haven't a CLUE what's going on. I prayed for YEARS for Gilmer
and look at what I got in return. He was on a rampage a couple weeks
ago using numerous new nyms to appear that a group of people were
attacking me and replying to each other. I figured I'd get his
attention by writing something nice instead of trying to counter it
all....as he'd hoped. Now when he started attacking me yet again, I
certainly DID want to "slap him in the face". I would like to do much
more....like kick him in the crotch....HARD. Or chop off a few "dangly
bits"....or superglue them together...

He is such a Heathen and so far removed from God that it's totally
immaterial to him whether I pray for him or not. So save your outrage
at a comment whose genesis you know nothing about.

And she did this

Post by Gregory Hall
believing that she has the mandate of Heaven to subject human beings
to these indignities while complaining how rotten some people treat
her.

Lighten up....it was a sort of sick joke. You don't know how depraved
and abusive that bastard is. I doubt his own mother prays for him
anymore. It's never done any good. He has no open channel with God;
only with Satan. And he does Satan's work as frequently as he can...

Post by Gregory Hall
But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each
point carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of
correspondence from people all over the country.

1) Jose Gaspar is in FL and that's about as distant from me as anybody
in this country can be.
2) Lumpy lives on a island I can see from here. I'm on a peninsula in
Puget Sound and he's on an island in Puget Sound.
3) I exchange emails with all sorts of people in Wisconsin because I
was born and lived there for 55 years. I have friends and family in
Minnesota, too. I exchange emails with a friend in North Carolina and
another in Colorado. A MN snowbird in AZ is a HS classmate. I
correspond with friends in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Doesn't everybody
exchange EMAIL with people from all over? I have an online friend in
Melbourne, AU ...

Like most normal

Post by Gregory Hall
women Karen networks.

So?

And one of the things that disturbs me about

Post by Gregory Hall
her is the number of people who realize that she loves getting up in
front of people and telling them that men are spare parts in the
social repertoire -- mere optional extras.

I do not. I love men. I like men much more than I like women. But
SOME *males* are incredible bad people and I had the misfortune of
getting tangled up with some of them on Usenet, which spilled over into
RL. I prefer men who are equal to me or preferably SMARTER. That's
hard to find in Usenet. That's big problem with Gilmer. He's scorned
by all men who get to know him at all. So he preys upon women as they
are easier for him to manipulate.....but he didn't count on the mistake
he was making when he CROSSED *ME*.

She then boasts offline to

Post by Gregory Hall
her phony friends about how she'll vanquish those who taunt her in a
matter of days.

What??? You now are claiming to know that I'm "boasting offline"??
Since I've been at WAR and attempting to defend myself from one jerk for
TEN years and the other one for FIVE years, I wouldn't say that is
exactly "vanquishing my taunters in a MATTER OF DAYS" !!

It's all part of the Usenet spectacle that is Karen

Post by Gregory Hall
Anderson.

This was never MY choice. I didn't even intend for my real name to ever
be known but was tricked and cajoled to reveal it in private email and
then when he decided to turn on me, he posted it on the internet. I'm
not the first one this has happened to. I have not sought all this
attention. Both men went PUBLIC when I expected to keep our problems in
private email. THEY wanted the ATTENTION, not me. I've had all the
attention I need in my real life and during my whole life. I try to
keep a low profile now and am very satisfied with that. Thanks to two
impotent goons, they have put me up for target practice on Usenet. I
can either stand up to it all the fight back with the truth or slink
away and be a victim and let the lies flow unchallenged. I've tried
both. Neither works. The obsessed won't stop no matter what I do or
don't do. They just see me in various other posters and attack or
ridicule them as if they believe they are talking to me. It's
bewildering to these poor people....usual males, to make it even more
bizarre. Yet, very seldom does anybody but me ever cry "INSANE" about
these bastards.....it's because they are males and Usenet is a Man's
World.


Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a pig in

Post by Gregory Hall
mud.

Care to show an example of that? My ongoing goal for ten years has been
for this all to STOP and my name NEVER again be mentioned and I am
ignored. I have yet to figure out how to bring that about. I've asked
them both what I have to do to get them to stop. They don't answer
cause THEY are abusive males and don't WANT it to stop.


So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in mind that

Post by Gregory Hall
you can't win. A pig loves mud.

Why should anybody WIN who has been wrong and lying from the
start....even taking their problems with me PUBLIC when any decent
person would keep personal issues private?

Is it necessary for you to now call me a PIG? You are right down on the
level of the worst that inhabits Usenet and a male chauvinist to the
max. You'd better get with the program and accept that you certainly
are NOT better than ME or probably any woman.

Post by Gregory Hall
Although Karen has obvious popular appeal,

Some people see and know that I am RIGHT and that I am bright, breezy
and funny...if given the chance.

she likes to feel like the

Post by Gregory Hall
poor, set upon victim.

You clearly haven't a CLUE how I feel and are too dim to understand when
I am trying to tell you. {sheesh} Yes, I am a victim to a point but I
am not a quiet and accepting or long-suffering one. I fight back. And
that's the crux of the problem on Usenet. A woman is NEVER supposed to
do THAT in the Man's World of Usenet where all those with "shakey" egos
come to pretend to be "tough men". There's only one answer to what I'm
doing......."INSANE/MENTALLY-ILL" You guys need to find some new
material cause it's clear none of you have a successful marriage, but a
string of divorces because you are fuck-ups and losers.

Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her

Post by Gregory Hall
slapped silly.

Well, that is in the eye of the beholder because I think I make plenty
of bulls-eye hits and numerous BRIGHT people assure me I have won and
all the intelligent people believe ME. I fight with the TRUTH and those
who think they are "slapping me silly" tell lies. They have no end of
material but I'm confined with unchanging facts and truth.

Such activity can flourish only in the dark corners of

Post by Gregory Hall
a kook newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires will probably sue
for cyber bullying.

I have considered several avenues to pursue legally but I didn't help my
case by fighting back like I have. Most of all, not one person who has
attacked me has a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of; hence
no attorney will sue somebody who has NO MONEY. That's why so many on
Usenet are bullies. They know they can never be sued.

If you drag it into the open, Karen and her

Post by Gregory Hall
little dog and pony show will probably run for cover, like
cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when the light is turned on suddenly
during the night.

Drag what into the open? I can't imagine anything regarding me that has
not been thoroughly aired on Usenet in the past 10 years and archived on
Google forever...most of it not even true. Nobody has any new and
FACTUAL material that would ever stand up in court because there is no
evidence on record.

Post by Gregory Hall
That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess

Oh my God. It looks like you've shot your wad and it wasn't much to
begin with. LOL

to shine a light on

Post by Gregory Hall
Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the entirety of AUK.

I don't subscribe to AUK, I don't read it. I am not "trolling AUK" tho
several of them manage to follow me around....including you, for I'm
replying to this on ANTU. I just reply to posts and if they were
cross-posted to AUK then my reply goes there. Some of the recent crap
is going to alt.rv I see. I'm sure they are thrilled...

Post by Gregory Hall
Some of you just ain't much brighter than Karen

Oh, don't be so hard on them. It's not easy to be brighter than Karen,
particularly when you are a "male on AUK". <chuckle>

it seems so an

Post by Gregory Hall
explanation will do you all good. Don't give her any more kook
awards.

Right.

She's playing you all for fools just like I do and she's

Post by Gregory Hall
found how easy it is to manipulate all of you twits into doing her
bidding.

I'm not doing anything with them, but I DO think they are all fools.
Yes, I do. The KoOk is GILMER. They focus on the woman telling the
truth instead of the bizarre idiot (male) making up outrageous lies.
Why is it OK for a 52 y.o. male to attack and abuse a 70 y.o. female for
FIVE YEARS but when she tries to set the record straight, SHE is the
"koOk"? See why normal people find AUK to be totally irrelevant?

Post by Gregory Hall
So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen.

They have been sucked in by Gilmer and his LIES about me and his
posturing as the "victim". They fiercely refuse to consider MY side
which is the reality of what happened. Who can take these people
seriously except fellow-nutcases and outcasts?

I don't really think

Post by Gregory Hall
she's as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself.

Right. I wasn't aware that I came off as either and it certainly wasn't
my intention. I know I'm not stupid and I don't pretend to be
especially cheerful.

It's an act

Post by Gregory Hall
rehearsed for many years to have you all groveling on the floor at
her queenly feet.

Oh c'mon. Don't act like an idiot...

You need to do some more studying, Greggy......LOTS more studying.

[Lumped]

Post by Gregory Hall
she's as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself.

Right.  I wasn't aware that I came off as either >>

You don't. In your own arrhythmic way, you're un-self-consciously
fun.

[Karen]

Post by Lumped

Post by Gregory Hall
she's as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself.

Right. I wasn't aware that I came off as either >>

You don't. In your own arrhythmic way, you're un-self-consciously
fun.

I wouldn't be posting here at all if I wasn't pissed off most of the
time. You are the 3rd very bright fellow who has told me on Usenet that
I am "fun/funny". I am frighteningly like Maxine. Do you know who she
is?

http://www.tom-phillips.info/images/maxine.christmas.htm

[Gregory Hall]

Post by Karen

Post by Gregory Hall
Because of Ms. Karen Anderson's private diaries posted here,

"private diaries" ?
I find

Post by Gregory Hall
myself making an exception to my policy of non-involvement with those
who may be mentally ill - why, not even a real mentally ill person
could do such a fine job acting like one so I think it's all some put
on to troll gullible people and to make herself the center of
attention as she obviously has no real life.

1) I certainly do have a real life and I'm very satisfied with it.
Mostly, I do things for the betterment of others....people and animals.
2) I am not mentally-ill or pretending to be.
3) Typical thick male minds don't understand that the ANGER emotion in a
woman doesn't equote to "crazy" or "insane" or "mentally-ill". I have
every right to be damn angry about what certain people have done to me and
I have retaliated by aggressively setting the record straight...again and
again.
4) I have no interest in or need to make myself the center of attention.
Others are doing that to me with their obsessions and enjoyment to abuse
others they feel they can.

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But first, let me pose you a question: Is Karen actually concerned
about any of us and what anybody posts or does she just want to
prance around on center stage?

Concerned only when it is directed at me. I was silent for years and let
the abuse continue. Since it never stopped and was actually "bait" to get
me to respond, I finally have. MOSTLY, to get my information archived at
Google. Do you think I would be replying to YOU otherwise?
I wish nobody would ever reply to me. There a select few people who are
obsessed with keeping a WAR with me going.....forever. They are the ones
doing the "prancing".
After reading this post, you'll most

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likely conclude it's the latter case.

I've already concluded you have no clue what's been going on for TEN YEARS
with me and some very weird and "mentally-ill" people.
There are some kooks who sound

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like childish twits with their excessive use of profanity and ad
hominem attacks of a scurrilous nature and there some others like
Karen who write a very good representation of a stuck-on-herself,
aging female who thinks she's the center of the universe.

I am. MY Universe. I am only defending myself with the TRUTH and facts
about myself and those who attack me as if they are equals of mine. They
are disgusting people and far beneath me in class and accomplishments.
They wouldn't DARE act in real life toward me as they can on Usenet.
There are

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also some who are less than provocative because they sound like
mindless automatons spewing the same childish one-liners post after
post.

A lot of that sort of repetition is directed at me even when proved to be
false. Repeated signature lines and posting my home address nearly 2000
times. Reposting the same lengthy screed laced with all lies about two
individuals (one being me) and cross-posting it to several groups dozens
of times every day for weeks and months. Spamming and flooding....and
their isps let them get away with it.
I think Karen is the more successful troll because she sounds

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pretty much like a clueless, stereotypical, divorced housewife who
has imagined friends all over the country with whom she commiserates.

1) I am not a troll.
2) You are far more "clueless" than me.
3) I'm clearly unlike most women so am not "stereotypical".
4) Not divorced. My parents not divorced either. Nobody in my family or
among my lifelong friends.
5) Not a "housewife" -- never was.
6) My "friends" are all VERY real people. I mistakenly thought 2 of my
current abusers were internet "friends". WRONG. If you saw my Christmas
card postmarks, you would see they are from "all over the country.

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Yet, she obviously spends 18-20 hours a day posting to Usenet so who
do you think Karen is in real life?

Not someone who spends 18-20 hours a day posting to Usenet except on a
couple of recent occasions. Find where I posted at ALL during 2005
through 2007.

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Karen's rantings are very believable precisely because she acts
pretty much like a cross section of middle-aged women we all know in
our personal lives.

OK. Now you admit my "rants are very believable". You get a gold star
for that because you are right. I am posting for the purpose of getting
the truth and facts on record and archived on google to offset SOME of the
slander and ugliness heaped on me non-stop for many years when I never
replied at all.
I believe Dr. Joy Browne calls them "stupid and

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cheerful" and advocates they be that way on purpose in order to avoid
interpersonal relationship snafus. But, therein lies the problem for
poor Karen. Her acting stupid and cheerful certainly does come
naturally to her but what Dr. Brown doesn't mention is acting stupid
and cheerful tends to diminish a woman's standing in a man's world.

Where/when did you decide I was "acting stupid and cheerful"? I am
neither stupid or cheerful when dealing with vicious assholes on Usenet. I
would only be "acting" if I played "nicey-nice" and wanted to get along
with EVERYONE. That seems to be my problem. Because I don't CARE if a
lot of people don't like me, that just throws most people into a tizzy.
They can't get that at all...!! I must be a "koOk" then. If I tell the
truth and present the facts, then for SURE I have to be a "koOk". That's
not how things work in MY world -- the real world. YMMV

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Stupid and cheerful is easy to be around for a while. Then it tends
to become quite odious after some prolonged exposure.

That's how I feel about others. I think these people are
"pretending/acting". Nobody is "nice" all the time and always laughing
and smiling, even without any obvious reason to.
It's easy to

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have sex with stupid and cheerful, for example, but do you really
want to wake up to it in the morning when you expect a good breakfast
prepared for you?

My, my but you seem to be a male chauvinist. Where does it say that YOU
couldn't be the one to prepare breakfast?

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So, with this in mind, can a normal man sit back and let the Karen
types overthrow conceptual female beauty and allow her to sublime
helpful and intelligent, the noble and the good of womanhood, and
instead drag people down into the sphere of her own cheerful and
stupid nature,

Gibberish that has no answer. Are there any "normal" men is a better
question. Plenty of women wonder about that...

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or should we tell Karen what we all think of her.

Oh, I think that has been done more than sufficietly. If it's on or comes
from AUK I likely don't see it.
Boy,

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do I have some choice words I'd like to use?

I don't know; do you?
But, not knowing for

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sure if Karen really suffers some kind of mental illness or is just a
very realistic troll it is perhaps better to err on the stupid and
cheerful side lest she be driven over the edge.

You are too insignificant to me to ever "drive me over the edge". Don't
flatter yourself, Greggy.

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To some of us here this choice sure sounds like a no-brainer but
choices have consequences and at this time of year with Christmas
cheer and all would it not perhaps be better to err on the side of
caution and accept Karen not as an act but as a real life woman with
some problems such as lacking interpersonal relationship skills?

You were doing very good till you got to the "interpersonal relatioship"
part. I made my living working with and entertaining others. And I dealt
with ALL types, believe me. You aren't suggesting that I don't know how
to get along well with the kind of people who inhabit most of the Usenet
groups now? Because if you are, then you don't realize that I don't
suffer fools gladly and am more intelligent than a large percent of the
fools who post on newsgroups cause they have no audience anywhere else in
their sorry lives. I refuse to banter back and forth with them as if we
are all "equals"; we aren't. I wouldn't associate by choice with such
idiots in real life, so why should I on Usenet? Tell me how any normal
and sane person can take the people who hang out on AUK seriously? Most
don't even communicate in a kind of English I can comprehend. Their
judgement and opinion of me means diddly squat in the grand scheme of
things in my life.

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Mankind needs to do more to view the realm of moderated chaos which
is the normal female mind as a miracle

Unlike men....we can multi-task in our actions at the same time we can in
our minds. We are always superior to men except in brute strength. Most
men can't deal with women so they just claim they are "insane" "crazy" or
"mentally ill". I am smarter, more capable and accomplished then both
of my male abusers put together. They can't understand that or accept it.
So they cry out "insane" and "mentally-ill" etc. etc.
and less to view realm of

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totally unbridled chaos which is the mind of any left-behind, stupid
and cheerful middle-aged woman whose time has come - and gone!

That wouldn't be me. I was never "left-behind". That would be the women
who were never more than wives and mothers. Had no life of their own or
individual accomplishments....they were caretakers of a man and ungrateful
kids and now greedy grandkids. I made a life for myself and still have
one. I'm not an extension of someone else, nor dependent on anybody else.
Kinda proud of my independence and good sense. Too bad I didn't realize
Usenet contains very few people like me and is more like wandering into a
zoo full of insane monkeys.
I say

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all this because I hope you are all mindful that a mind on the edge
can easily be tipped into oblivion and Karen seems mighty close to
that precipice.

What Karen "seems" and what Karen "is" are obviously beyond your grasp.
Getting "DAMN MAD" is significant ANGER; it's not "mental illness". Have
you never been VERY ANGRY? Isn't "anger" a normal and justified emotion?

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There's something about Karen's rantings that seem genuine

Well....there you go. Hang onto and focus on that.
yet there

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is always a hint of a sham or a deception when her diatribes are read
carefully.

Take what I write at face value. I am being as direct and blunt as I can
be. Anger does that to me. I get right in your face and you have no
doubt what I feel or why.
She may well be a master manipulator laughing her ass off

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at how she can stir up the hornet's nest so easily.

If I do that, it's certainly not my intention. It's more like I am the
victim of that being done to me. I'm aware of it now where I wasn't at
all in the past. I didn't realize how I was being "baited" and that my
or revealed aboutg them as long as they felt they had controlled and
manipulated me by writiing enough outrageous lies to cause me to respond
in an impassioned way.

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You know what I'm beginning to think?

You are just "beginning to think" at this point? Why am I not surprised?
LOL
To Hell with Karen! Is she even

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worth this much of my time?

CLEARLY, not. Don't ever do this again. Life is much too short.
It's typical of Karen's posts: she

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condemns bigotry and injustice

Where did I "condemn bigotry"? I've been accused for years of being a
"racist". "Injustice" is another matter. I ABHOR it and am the victim of
it and that is what fuels my anger and emotional writing. Why do I have
to be the *victim* of someone far beneath me on the ladder of life?
except when it benefits her personally

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which is most of the time because she writes to inspire just that.

I have jumped in MANY times to defend others and fought like a tigress for
the very people who NOW have been abusing me. Fair-Weather Friends to say
the least. Backstabbers is more like it. People who ONLY care about
themselves and never anyone else.

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Here's a clue. When trying to understand what she is up to, look at
what she is saying and what it's based upon.

Yes...and do some homework and check out some history on Google Archives.
Get some background on WHY I find it necessary to fight back against all
the LIES and GARBAGE spread around about me. This crap has gone on for so
long that it has become "facts" to people who just recently skim the
surface.
Don't let yourself be

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distracted by the patter of crocodile tears and the vigorous
hand-wringing;

That would be Gilmer, actually. He plays "victim" while being a very
effective ABUSER and BULLY.....a wife-beater in real life. He went to AUK
in hopes they would "help" him beat me down by shaming me with various
"awards". I know too much and he is desperate to silence me, but he can't
quite do that so the next thing is to destroy my credibility so nobody
will believe me when I reveal a few things I know about him.
keep your eye on the shell that has the pea under it.

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And focus your mind on the fact that if she had her way, everybody
would live in a broken down RV on a dead-end drive up in the cold
country and would act like they did so because they had found that to
be the best way to live.

Heavens NO. I don't want ANYBODY moving up here, especially if they are
going to squat somewhere in a broke down RV. We have spectacular scenery.
Don't want no crap of any kind spoiling it. Don't move to Wisconsin,
either!!
Now, ask yourself is that the perception of

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a normal mind?

I'm asking myself by now if YOURS is a "normal mind". I see only a couple
of glimmers so far .. ;')
I thought it appalling that Karen wrote that she told

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somebody she would pray for them and then she delighted in revealing
she did no such thing. Sort of a slap to their face.

See? You haven't a CLUE what's going on. I prayed for YEARS for Gilmer
and look at what I got in return. He was on a rampage a couple weeks ago
using numerous new nyms to appear that a group of people were attacking me
and replying to each other. I figured I'd get his attention by writing
something nice instead of trying to counter it all....as he'd hoped. Now
when he started attacking me yet again, I certainly DID want to "slap him
in the face". I would like to do much more....like kick him in the
crotch....HARD. Or chop off a few "dangly bits"....or superglue them
together...
He is such a Heathen and so far removed from God that it's totally
immaterial to him whether I pray for him or not. So save your outrage at
a comment whose genesis you know nothing about.
And she did this

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believing that she has the mandate of Heaven to subject human beings
to these indignities while complaining how rotten some people treat
her.

Lighten up....it was a sort of sick joke. You don't know how depraved and
abusive that bastard is. I doubt his own mother prays for him anymore.
It's never done any good. He has no open channel with God; only with
Satan. And he does Satan's work as frequently as he can...

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But if you read her writings while mentally focusing and weigh each
point carefully, it's clear that she receives a great deal of
correspondence from people all over the country.

1) Jose Gaspar is in FL and that's about as distant from me as anybody in
this country can be.
2) Lumpy lives on a island I can see from here. I'm on a peninsula in
Puget Sound and he's on an island in Puget Sound.
3) I exchange emails with all sorts of people in Wisconsin because I was
born and lived there for 55 years. I have friends and family in
Minnesota, too. I exchange emails with a friend in North Carolina and
another in Colorado. A MN snowbird in AZ is a HS classmate. I correspond
with friends in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Doesn't everybody exchange EMAIL
with people from all over? I have an online friend in Melbourne, AU ...
Like most normal

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women Karen networks.

So?
And one of the things that disturbs me about

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her is the number of people who realize that she loves getting up in
front of people and telling them that men are spare parts in the
social repertoire -- mere optional extras.

I do not. I love men. I like men much more than I like women. But SOME
*males* are incredible bad people and I had the misfortune of getting
tangled up with some of them on Usenet, which spilled over into RL. I
prefer men who are equal to me or preferably SMARTER. That's hard to find
in Usenet. That's big problem with Gilmer. He's scorned by all men who
get to know him at all. So he preys upon women as they are easier for him
to manipulate.....but he didn't count on the mistake he was making when he
CROSSED *ME*.
She then boasts offline to

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her phony friends about how she'll vanquish those who taunt her in a
matter of days.

What??? You now are claiming to know that I'm "boasting offline"?? Since
I've been at WAR and attempting to defend myself from one jerk for TEN
years and the other one for FIVE years, I wouldn't say that is exactly
"vanquishing my taunters in a MATTER OF DAYS" !!
It's all part of the Usenet spectacle that is Karen

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Anderson.

This was never MY choice. I didn't even intend for my real name to ever
be known but was tricked and cajoled to reveal it in private email and
then when he decided to turn on me, he posted it on the internet. I'm not
the first one this has happened to. I have not sought all this attention.
Both men went PUBLIC when I expected to keep our problems in private
email. THEY wanted the ATTENTION, not me. I've had all the attention I
need in my real life and during my whole life. I try to keep a low
profile now and am very satisfied with that. Thanks to two impotent
goons, they have put me up for target practice on Usenet. I can either
stand up to it all the fight back with the truth or slink away and be a
victim and let the lies flow unchallenged. I've tried both. Neither
works. The obsessed won't stop no matter what I do or don't do. They
just see me in various other posters and attack or ridicule them as if
they believe they are talking to me. It's bewildering to these poor
people....usual males, to make it even more bizarre. Yet, very seldom
does anybody but me ever cry "INSANE" about these bastards.....it's
because they are males and Usenet is a Man's World.
Of course, she soaks it up and wallows in it like a pig in

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mud.

Care to show an example of that? My ongoing goal for ten years has been
for this all to STOP and my name NEVER again be mentioned and I am
ignored. I have yet to figure out how to bring that about. I've asked
them both what I have to do to get them to stop. They don't answer cause
THEY are abusive males and don't WANT it to stop.
So those of you who wrestle with Karen should bear in mind that

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you can't win. A pig loves mud.

Why should anybody WIN who has been wrong and lying from the start....even
taking their problems with me PUBLIC when any decent person would keep
personal issues private?
Is it necessary for you to now call me a PIG? You are right down on the
level of the worst that inhabits Usenet and a male chauvinist to the max.
You'd better get with the program and accept that you certainly are NOT
better than ME or probably any woman.

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Although Karen has obvious popular appeal,

Some people see and know that I am RIGHT and that I am bright, breezy and
funny...if given the chance.
she likes to feel like the

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poor, set upon victim.

You clearly haven't a CLUE how I feel and are too dim to understand when I
am trying to tell you. {sheesh} Yes, I am a victim to a point but I am
not a quiet and accepting or long-suffering one. I fight back. And
that's the crux of the problem on Usenet. A woman is NEVER supposed to do
THAT in the Man's World of Usenet where all those with "shakey" egos come
to pretend to be "tough men". There's only one answer to what I'm
doing......."INSANE/MENTALLY-ILL" You guys need to find some new
material cause it's clear none of you have a successful marriage, but a
string of divorces because you are fuck-ups and losers.
Her posts encourage those who enjoy seeing her

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slapped silly.

Well, that is in the eye of the beholder because I think I make plenty of
bulls-eye hits and numerous BRIGHT people assure me I have won and all the
intelligent people believe ME. I fight with the TRUTH and those who think
they are "slapping me silly" tell lies. They have no end of material but
I'm confined with unchanging facts and truth.
Such activity can flourish only in the dark corners of

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a kook newsgroup otherwise some lawyer Karen hires will probably sue
for cyber bullying.

I have considered several avenues to pursue legally but I didn't help my
case by fighting back like I have. Most of all, not one person who has
attacked me has a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of; hence no
attorney will sue somebody who has NO MONEY. That's why so many on Usenet
are bullies. They know they can never be sued.
If you drag it into the open, Karen and her

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little dog and pony show will probably run for cover, like
cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when the light is turned on suddenly
during the night.

Drag what into the open? I can't imagine anything regarding me that has
not been thoroughly aired on Usenet in the past 10 years and archived on
Google forever...most of it not even true. Nobody has any new and FACTUAL
material that would ever stand up in court because there is no evidence on
record.

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That's why I decided to use my analytical prowess

Oh my God. It looks like you've shot your wad and it wasn't much to begin
with. LOL
to shine a light on

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Karen's somewhat successful efforts to troll the entirety of AUK.

I don't subscribe to AUK, I don't read it. I am not "trolling AUK" tho
several of them manage to follow me around....including you, for I'm
replying to this on ANTU. I just reply to posts and if they were
cross-posted to AUK then my reply goes there. Some of the recent crap is
going to alt.rv I see. I'm sure they are thrilled...

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Some of you just ain't much brighter than Karen

Oh, don't be so hard on them. It's not easy to be brighter than Karen,
particularly when you are a "male on AUK". <chuckle>
it seems so an

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explanation will do you all good. Don't give her any more kook
awards.

Right.
She's playing you all for fools just like I do and she's

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found how easy it is to manipulate all of you twits into doing her
bidding.

I'm not doing anything with them, but I DO think they are all fools. Yes,
I do. The KoOk is GILMER. They focus on the woman telling the truth
instead of the bizarre idiot (male) making up outrageous lies. Why is it
OK for a 52 y.o. male to attack and abuse a 70 y.o. female for FIVE YEARS
but when she tries to set the record straight, SHE is the "koOk"? See why
normal people find AUK to be totally irrelevant?

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So, in conclusion, don't be sucked in by Karen.

They have been sucked in by Gilmer and his LIES about me and his posturing
as the "victim". They fiercely refuse to consider MY side which is the
reality of what happened. Who can take these people seriously except
fellow-nutcases and outcasts?
I don't really think

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she's as stupid and cheerful as she portrays herself.

Right. I wasn't aware that I came off as either and it certainly wasn't
my intention. I know I'm not stupid and I don't pretend to be especially
cheerful.
It's an act

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rehearsed for many years to have you all groveling on the floor at
her queenly feet.

Oh c'mon. Don't act like an idiot...
You need to do some more studying, Greggy......LOTS more studying.

I really like this woman. She's a breath of fresh air. Stands her ground.
Makes sense. She passes the smell test. I have concluded from the above
reasoned discourse that she ISN'T a troll. (And she's definitely very
difficult to piss off.)

You two (or more) idiots who are constantly stalking her should just lay off
of her.

Merry Christmas Karen.

[Karen]

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I really like this woman. She's a breath of fresh air. Stands her
ground. Makes sense. She passes the smell test. I have concluded from
the above reasoned discourse that she ISN'T a troll. (And she's
definitely very difficult to piss off.)
You two (or more) idiots who are constantly stalking her should just
lay off of her.
Merry Christmas Karen.

AT LAST -- someone who "gets it". THANK YOU, Gregory !!!
I think you are wrong about this, tho: I am quite EASY to piss off. I
*don't suffer fools gladly* !

Thank you again for posting this and I WILL include you in my Christmas
prayers today.

Merry Christmas ... and thank you for this "gift".

Karen

[Gregory Hall]

Post by Karen

Post by Gregory Hall
I really like this woman. She's a breath of fresh air. Stands her
ground. Makes sense. She passes the smell test. I have concluded from
the above reasoned discourse that she ISN'T a troll. (And she's
definitely very difficult to piss off.)
You two (or more) idiots who are constantly stalking her should just
lay off of her.
Merry Christmas Karen.

AT LAST -- someone who "gets it". THANK YOU, Gregory !!!
I think you are wrong about this, tho: I am quite EASY to piss off. I
*don't suffer fools gladly* !
Thank you again for posting this and I WILL include you in my Christmas
prayers today.
Merry Christmas ... and thank you for this "gift".
Karen

You're welcome, Mam.

[Kooky Karen]

AT  LAST -- someone who "gets it".   THANK YOU, Gregory !!!

Uh Anderson ... did you notice how he copied all of your rambling
screed when he posted a couple of lines?

He did that as a joke, so that other people could see the insane crap
that you post.

He's just egging you on so that you get awarded again.

Sarcasm isn't something that you understand, is it?

[Karen]

PirateJohn Gilmer pretending to be "Kooky Karen"

Post by Kooky Karen

AT LAST -- someone who "gets it". THANK YOU, Gregory !!!

Uh Anderson ... did you notice how he copied all of your rambling
screed when he posted a couple of lines?

How's Louise Magee this Christmas? All warm and fuzzy about hearing
from you? <snicker>

[PyrateJohn]

How's Louise this Christmas?  All warm and fuzzy about hearing
from you?   <snicker>

Very warm. We had a VERY nice chat a few days ago. Her hubby has
been emailing me about motorcycling to the Yucatan for the last
several weeks.

You seem to have the impression that I am estranged from my family.
Or perhaps in that psychotic mind of yours you are dreaming that.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Louise and I were in
disagreement years ago, but that was years ago. We have worked
through some things, found common ground, and are probably closer now
than when we were kids. We were probably back to being buds even
before you started writing to me about your mental problems.

I would have to say that, having heard hundreds of tales of different
families over the years, that my family and the way that we get along
is one of the more successful stories. I wouldn't change a thing.
You should be so lucky.

Part of your problem ("part"?? Hell, where does one even begin to
start with where you problems are at?) is that, since you don't have a
life or family of your own, you try to infiltrate other people's
lives. You read my comments on my blog and my joke list and you don't
understand them, and/or you distort shit to suit your fantasies. YOU
ARE FUCKING NUTS, KAREN, AND EVERYONE SEES THAT. Even your "friends"
are all leading you on for their own purposes.

You don't have any actual family or friends with you today, do you?

How's Egan? That's a guy that wouldn't have anything to do with you.

How's Rob? Ditto.

You know that I'm doing quite well. And here I am, in between writing
other things, kicking you to the curb.

How are the other 20 or so guys that you got online crushes on doing?
Do *ANY* of them ever want to have anything to do with you?

How's your pal David Carson? He certainly wouldn't allow you to visit
him, now would he?

Or Bob Feigel? You know as well as I do that he warned several people
that you are trouble.

Or Bill Schenley? Did he invite you to Pennsylvania for X-mas
dinner? I doubt it ... in fact, from what I have heard he may have
spent Christmas in a motel room, by himself. You caused him to be
exposed as an ex-con and a junkie, and that didn't sit very well with
his wife or kids.

Yeah Karen ... you are a real piece of work.

When you went through my 10,000 photo collection (and I let you - how
the hell long did that take you?) how many photos of folks online that
you know did you find? You probably didn't recognize them if there
wasn't a caption. There are quite a few. There are quite a few
ladies from these newsgroups during my Evil Bachelor Days and I had
frankly forgotten that I still had those photos. And there are
several folks, male and female, that Deb and I have hooked up with to
go sightseeing, go to lunch with, and so forth. Above and beyond
that, I am not on newsgroups nearly as much as I am on forums lately,
since newsgroups are dying. I was hanging with some motorcycling
folks in Monterrey a few weeks ago and some 4x4 guys in Reynosa on
Monday and you don't have a clue. Bottom line - this "pariah"
nonsense is pretty funny, considering how you are afraid to use your
old SnooShoe nyms for fear of being laughed at, and you pretend to be
other people, usually male, when you do post elsewhere.

You don't have any relatives that will have anything to do with you.
Between outliving most of them, and the irritations that they had to
put up with when you were in and out of the Funny Farm, I suspect that
none of your surviving family want anything to do with you.

Merry Christmas Anderson. Life gave you a lump of coal again this
year, didn't it?

[Sarah Ehrett]

On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:23:29 -0800 (PST), PyrateJohn <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

:>On Dec 25, 2:10 pm, "Karen" <***@nospam.wa> wrote:
:>
:>
:>>
:>> How's Louise this Christmas?  All warm and fuzzy about hearing
:>> from you?   <snicker>
:>
:>
:>Very warm. We had a VERY nice chat a few days ago. Her hubby has
:>been emailing me about motorcycling to the Yucatan for the last
:>several weeks.
:>
:>You seem to have the impression that I am estranged from my family.
:>Or perhaps in that psychotic mind of yours you are dreaming that.
:>Nothing could be further from the truth. Louise and I were in
:>disagreement years ago, but that was years ago. We have worked
:>through some things, found common ground, and are probably closer now
:>than when we were kids. We were probably back to being buds even
:>before you started writing to me about your mental problems.
:>
:>I would have to say that, having heard hundreds of tales of different
:>families over the years, that my family and the way that we get along
:>is one of the more successful stories. I wouldn't change a thing.
:>You should be so lucky.
:>
:>Part of your problem ("part"?? Hell, where does one even begin to
:>start with where you problems are at?) is that, since you don't have a
:>life or family of your own, you try to infiltrate other people's
:>lives. You read my comments on my blog and my joke list and you don't
:>understand them, and/or you distort shit to suit your fantasies.

Karen doesn't have normal relationships with people. She has no husband,
no children, no family to speak of, so of course she has no clue about what
normal people do.

The fat sweathog actually believes people are what they are on usenet.



YOU
:>ARE FUCKING NUTS, KAREN, AND EVERYONE SEES THAT. Even your "friends"
:>are all leading you on for their own purposes.


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" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

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[Sarah Ehrett]

On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:19:52 GMT, "Karen" <***@nospam.wa> wrote:

:>Gregory Hall" <***@home.fake> wrote in message
:>news:***@news.alt.net
:>
:>> I really like this woman. She's a breath of fresh air. Stands her
:>> ground. Makes sense. She passes the smell test. I have concluded from
:>> the above reasoned discourse that she ISN'T a troll. (And she's
:>> definitely very difficult to piss off.)
:>>
:>> You two (or more) idiots who are constantly stalking her should just
:>> lay off of her.
:>>
:>> Merry Christmas Karen.
:>
:>
:>AT LAST -- someone who "gets it".

We ALL get it Karen. You're a raving nutter stalking people across the
internet.

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" When reading you, I always see an extremely fat woman with
cankley wrists, tapping away at a keyboard, making that labored
breathing sound women make when they're way overweight. "

http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg

[ah]

Post by Karen

Post by Gregory Hall
I really like this woman. She's a breath of fresh air. Stands her
ground. Makes sense. She passes the smell test. I have concluded from
the above reasoned discourse that she ISN'T a troll. (And she's
definitely very difficult to piss off.)
You two (or more) idiots who are constantly stalking her should just
lay off of her.
Merry Christmas Karen.

AT LAST -- someone who "gets it". THANK YOU, Gregory !!!
I think you are wrong about this, tho: I am quite EASY to piss off. I
*don't suffer fools gladly* !
Thank you again for posting this and I WILL include you in my Christmas
prayers today.
Merry Christmas ... and thank you for this "gift".

http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag/gallery/kli23.htm

[John "C"]

Post by ah

Post by Karen

Post by Gregory Hall
I really like this woman. She's a breath of fresh air. Stands her
ground. Makes sense. She passes the smell test. I have concluded from
the above reasoned discourse that she ISN'T a troll. (And she's
definitely very difficult to piss off.)
You two (or more) idiots who are constantly stalking her should just
lay off of her.
Merry Christmas Karen.

AT LAST -- someone who "gets it". THANK YOU, Gregory !!!
I think you are wrong about this, tho: I am quite EASY to piss off.

I

Post by ah

Post by Karen
*don't suffer fools gladly* !
Thank you again for posting this and I WILL include you in my Christmas
prayers today.
Merry Christmas ... and thank you for this "gift".

http://www.blackjelly.com/Mag/gallery/kli23.htm
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That's really OLD material....just like yourself !!
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Your Pal,
HJ