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The elusive Brad Roberts
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Kittens Magazine
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Why Fuhrman thinks Brad Roberts should have testified (From Murder in
1. Brad was with me at the Bundy scene, where he saw one glove and a
knit cap.
2. Brad saw the additional drops of blood on the walkway gate at Bundy.
3. Brad saw a bloody fingerprint on the turnstile knob of the Bundy
walkway gate. Brad believed it to be identifiable.
4. Brad had a discussion with me on the street outside the Bundy crime
scene as we waited for Robbery/Homicide. We made plans to go to
breakfast. No conspiracy here.
5. Brad joined me at the Rockingham estate and observed the blood
inside the Bronco. Brad and I called Vanatter over to the Bronco to
see it. Considering his excitement, I'd say this was the first time
Vanatter saw the evidence. Brad thought so too.
6.Brad observed droops of blood on the driveway leading from Rockingham
and began numbering them for evidence collection. Vanatter might have
also seen these drops, but Brad certainly did.
7. Brad saw the large drop of blood outside the front door of the
Rockingham estate and the three drops inside the foyer. Again,
Vanatter might have made these observations, but Brad could have
corroborated them.
8. Brad helped me evacuate the house of whomever arrived there before
the Rockingham estate became an official crime scene, and in doing so
we both observed the two dress socks in Simpson's master bedroom.
9.Brad was the detective to take Simpson from the officer who had
handcuffed him around noon on June 13. Simpson made statements that
appeared very incriminating, accompanied by bodily reactions that were
definitely incriminating. I had Brad put these statements to paper
within hours. These statements were never told to the jury, yet
appeared in the homicide book, a total history of the investigation.
10. During the period of the first search warrant, Brad found dark
clothes in the washing machine and blood on the bathroom light switch
in the service area.
I'm with Fuhrman on this one. I'd love to hear Roberts testify.
(No mention of the Swiss Army Knife box in this list, Bobaugust, did
Fuhrman forget this important evidence?)
Miss Marple
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There's a reason why the prosecution did not want Brad to testify. He's hiding something.
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2021-12-17 03:36:22 UTC
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Why Fuhrman thinks Brad Roberts should have testified
(From
Murder
in
1. Brad was with me at the Bundy scene, where he saw one
glove
and
a
knit cap.
2. Brad saw the additional drops of blood on the walkway
gate
at
Bundy.
3. Brad saw a bloody fingerprint on the turnstile knob of
the
Bundy
walkway gate. Brad believed it to be identifiable.
4. Brad had a discussion with me on the street outside
the
Bundy
crime
scene as we waited for Robbery/Homicide. We made plans to
go
to
breakfast. No conspiracy here.
5. Brad joined me at the Rockingham estate and observed
the
blood
inside the Bronco. Brad and I called Vanatter over to the
Bronco
to
see it. Considering his excitement, I'd say this was the
first
time
Vanatter saw the evidence. Brad thought so too.
6.Brad observed droops of blood on the driveway leading
from
Rockingham
and began numbering them for evidence collection.
Vanatter
might
have
also seen these drops, but Brad certainly did.
7. Brad saw the large drop of blood outside the front
door
of
the
Rockingham estate and the three drops inside the foyer.
Again,
Vanatter might have made these observations, but Brad
could
have
corroborated them.
8. Brad helped me evacuate the house of whomever arrived
there
before
the Rockingham estate became an official crime scene, and
in
doing
so
we both observed the two dress socks in Simpson's master
bedroom.
9.Brad was the detective to take Simpson from the officer
who
had
handcuffed him around noon on June 13. Simpson made
statements
that
appeared very incriminating, accompanied by bodily
reactions
that
were
definitely incriminating. I had Brad put these statements
to
paper
within hours. These statements were never told to the
jury,
yet
appeared in the homicide book, a total history of the
investigation.
10. During the period of the first search warrant, Brad
found
dark
clothes in the washing machine and blood on the bathroom
light
switch
in the service area.
I'm with Fuhrman on this one. I'd love to hear Roberts
testify.
(No mention of the Swiss Army Knife box in this list,
Bobaugust,
did
Fuhrman forget this important evidence?)
Miss Marple,
I do not know why the empty Swiss Army Knife box was not on
his
list.
Didn't you tell me that in Fuhrman's hard cover book, there
were
no
pictures of Simpson's bathroom showing the box? Did Fuhrman
talk
about
the empty box on the edge of the bathtub?
bobaugust
He talks about the box in the chapter about the murder weapon,
and
says
about the search that he showed it to the detectives (plural)
then.
Miss Marple,
Now I remember, we talked about this before, haven't we? I
believe I
told you Fuhrman mentions the empty Swiss Army knife box four
times
in
his later book, as well as the pictures. Fuhrman said he
"pointed
it
out", and "brought to the attention of" Robbery Homicide
detectives
(plural)
It seems that Fuhrman's belief of the importance of the empty
knife
box increased from the time of his first book to the later
releases.
The point is Miss Marple your arguments are getting weaker and
weaker.
You are now even revisiting failed past arguments. Does this
tell
you
anything? But go ahead, keep digging. It isn't every day I get
to
talk
to a real masochist.
bobaugust
So I'll keep digging: Isn't it intriguing how Fuhrman's partner
Roberts is hidden here. The elusive Brad Roberts. Doesn't it
seem
even to the most naive like Phillips is trying to keep Roberts out
of
it all. Poor kid, Roberts, doesn't exist.
Detective Phillips, Crim.
Q FOR A MOMENT -- YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FUHRMAN. YOU AND DETECTIVE
FUHRMAN ARE VERY, VERY CLOSE, AREN'T YOU?
A WE HAVE BEEN PARTNERS FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND I'VE GOTTEN TO
CONSIDER MYSELF A FRIEND OF HIS, YES.
They weren't partners, were they?
A I THINK MARK CAME TO THE ROBBERY UNIT IN -- I WANT TO SAY
PROBABLY '91. HE WORKED UP IN DETECTIVES, BUT I DID NOT HAVE HIM
AS
A
PARTNER AT THAT TIME. HE WORKED ANOTHER TABLE, COMPLETELY SEPARATE
TABLE, SO I REALLY DIDN'T GET TO KNOW HIM UNTIL WE WORKED THE
ROBBERY
TABLE TOGETHER. I THINK THAT WAS '91.
Q SO THAT WAS '91, SO A MINIMUM OF THREE YEARS BEFORE THIS
HAPPENED?
A THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
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Q SO THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE YOU AND DETECTIVE FUHRMAN
WERE
PARTNERS IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME OTHER DETECTIVES WHO WORKED
THERE
ALSO; IS THAT RIGHT?
A YES.
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WHO WAS CONSTANT? WHO STAYED THERE FROM '91 TO '94? ANY DETECTIVE
WHO
HAS BEEN THERE IN ADDITION TO YOU AND FUHRMAN?
A JUST THE COORDINATOR IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS STILL THERE THAT
WAS
THERE WHEN I WAS THERE WITH MARK FUHRMAN AND THAT IS THE
COORDINATOR
OF
THE ROBBERY UNIT.
Q WHO IS THAT?
A ROBERT TAPIA.
Where was Brad Roberts?
Miss Marple,
The reality in this case was that the prosecutors only needed so
many
police officers to testify about the facts in this case. The
prosecutors
had to choose which police officers to use. This case had so much to
cover and as you must know from reading Marcia Clark's book, the
pressure on the prosecutors was enormous because of Simpson's choice
for
a speedy trial. There was a huge witness list. Choices had to be
made.
Brad Roberts could not have told the jury anything that any of the
police officers who did testify told them. It would have been a
duplication.
It is only your extremely prejudice, suspicious mind that makes you
wonder about Brad Roberts. But you are funny.
bobaugust
Yes of course choices had to be made, and some were not so good. Do
you think Roberts would have made a better choice than Fuhrman,
considering Fuhrman's heavy baggage? According to Fuhrman, Roberts
was
with him through most of the discoveries and according to Fuhrman
could
have testified to that. But even after Fuhrman took the fifth, Marcia
didn't call Roberts.
Maybe he had some heavy baggage too?
Miss Marple
Maybe Roberts has some heavy baggage too?
Miss Marple,
Maybe. So what? Baggage or no baggage does not change the evidence.
Brad Roberts did not find the killer's right hand glove, Fuhrman did.
The prosecution called Fuhrman to testify about the glove he found.
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