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20 Years
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Ragnar
2014-05-28 04:47:33 UTC
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Well, here we are, rapidly approaching 20 years since the day that OJ Simpson went from being one of America's most beloved (albeit well less than A-list by that time) celebrities to being America's all-time favorite double murderer. Granted, it took a while before we realized that he did in fact do the deed, but his actions on June 12, 1994 cemented his place in both infamy and pop culture.

Last night while flipping through the channels I had occasion to see Geraldo Rivera presenting his retrospective, "Geraldo Rivera: O.J. Simpson at 20." Geraldo hit the highlights - the murders, the Bronco chase, the Dream team, Mark Fuhrman, the glove demonstration, Alan Dershowitz, the verdict, the civil trial, Las Vegas, nullification and the racial divide both caused, and exacerbated, by the players in this case. It wasn't particularly meaty given that it was only an hour in length but it did manage to evoke some of the atmosphere of the time.

I don't know how many more of these retrospectives there will be - most of America has moved on, particularly since the trial and verdict in Las Vegas. OJ is in prison now, if neither in the correct jurisdiction nor for the correct e. nvfgrimre. He is there lawfully, of course, but had justice been served on October 3, 1995 OJ would never have been available to attempt to 'reclaim' memorabilia that had been 'stolen' from him in the wake of a civil trial that would never have occurred. Perhaps Las Vegas was payback for Brentwood, perhaps not. Threatening people with guns is frowned upon pretty much everywhere in the US regardless of one's past history.

We haven't discussed the case here in a very long time - sadly, the very openness that made Usenet such a powerful medium for disseminating information led to its demise in a sea of unmoderated spam. If the truth be told, in this group I think John Griffin grew weary of dealing with the inanity of the Simpson apologists and dragged the soc.singles morons in here simply to blow it up. Certainly that is the effect it had.

There still appears to be some discussion, if it can be dignified with that term, going on here: http://www.smartfellowspress.com/0514_toc.htm

Be forewarned - this is a site dedicated to the utterly insane proposition that Mark Fuhrman committed these murders. It is basically a self-congratulatory circle jerk of pro-js weaving theories so batsh*t crazy that even Prien would be embarrassed, though of course he does make appearances there.

As to this group, a lot of great discussion and debate was had here. Hopefully all who were involved are happy and healthy, though we know that at least a few have shuffled off this mortal coil. RIP Dick, Betty, and any others who are no longer with us.

Perhaps there is more to come. Stay tuned.....
abdullah
2014-10-19 15:02:11 UTC
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sad to hear that various folks have died.

how is dan wedeking faring? did you know these former anti-oj posters who
perished?


"Ragnar" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:95886b38-58f7-49f1-b8c5-***@googlegroups.com...
Well, here we are, rapidly approaching 20 years since the day that OJ
Simpson went from being one of America's most beloved (albeit well less than
A-list by that time) celebrities to being America's all-time favorite double
murderer. Granted, it took a while before we realized that he did in fact do
the deed, but his actions on June 12, 1994 cemented his place in both infamy
and pop culture.

Last night while flipping through the channels I had occasion to see Geraldo
Rivera presenting his retrospective, "Geraldo Rivera: O.J. Simpson at 20."
Geraldo hit the highlights - the murders, the Bronco chase, the Dream team,
Mark Fuhrman, the glove demonstration, Alan Dershowitz, the verdict, the
civil trial, Las Vegas, nullification and the racial divide both caused, and
exacerbated, by the players in this case. It wasn't particularly meaty given
that it was only an hour in length but it did manage to evoke some of the
atmosphere of the time.

I don't know how many more of these retrospectives there will be - most of
America has moved on, particularly since the trial and verdict in Las Vegas.
OJ is in prison now, if neither in the correct jurisdiction nor for the
correct e. nvfgrimre. He is there lawfully, of course, but had justice been
served on October 3, 1995 OJ would never have been available to attempt to
'reclaim' memorabilia that had been 'stolen' from him in the wake of a civil
trial that would never have occurred. Perhaps Las Vegas was payback for
Brentwood, perhaps not. Threatening people with guns is frowned upon pretty
much everywhere in the US regardless of one's past history.

We haven't discussed the case here in a very long time - sadly, the very
openness that made Usenet such a powerful medium for disseminating
information led to its demise in a sea of unmoderated spam. If the truth be
told, in this group I think John Griffin grew weary of dealing with the
inanity of the Simpson apologists and dragged the soc.singles morons in here
simply to blow it up. Certainly that is the effect it had.

There still appears to be some discussion, if it can be dignified with that
term, going on here: http://www.smartfellowspress.com/0514_toc.htm

Be forewarned - this is a site dedicated to the utterly insane proposition
that Mark Fuhrman committed these murders. It is basically a
self-congratulatory circle jerk of pro-js weaving theories so batsh*t crazy
that even Prien would be embarrassed, though of course he does make
appearances there.

As to this group, a lot of great discussion and debate was had here.
Hopefully all who were involved are happy and healthy, though we know that
at least a few have shuffled off this mortal coil. RIP Dick, Betty, and any
others who are no longer with us.

Perhaps there is more to come. Stay tuned.....
abdullah
2014-10-20 23:55:21 UTC
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x-no-archive: yes

which long-time posters have gone on to their reward?
Ryan Magee
2016-02-12 22:12:58 UTC
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I've noticed as I was scrolling through the archive how far off of center that this group had gone. I must admit, having witnessed the trial and influence it had in the media and the way cases are now prosecuted, my interest was recently rekindled with the release of the "People vs O.J. Simpson". With so much withheld from the public in the form of sealed evidence, crime scene photos, etc. at the time of the trial, and without much knowledge of the civil trial proceedings (other than O.J. being held liable), I started reading up on whatever I could Google. That brought me to Dick Wagner's old site. He has/had a lot of good stuff over there, although mining facts interspersed with a lot of conjecture/speculation/opinion gets a little exhausting. Several times he mentioned the "newsgroup" referring to alt.fan.oj-simpson, as well as many rebuttals to Bob August made me seek this forum out. I find their exchanges quite entertaining.

Just to be clear, believe that he probably did it, whether directly or indirectly, but I do believe that there could have likely been malfeasance on behalf of the LAPD in an attempt to solidify their case against O.J. But I am very open-minded to any possibility in the sense that, either way, I DO NOT KNOW. If you have any other sites that you are knowledgeable about that while may offer varying theories, have some basis in facts....please share.

Peace & Love (j/k)

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